Full Version: The Everything Thread
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I guess Khajiit was just curious about your preferred way to play the game.
You have to specify; do you mean what plasmids I prefer or how to deal with the Little Sisters? 
QUOTE(mirocu @ Dec 18 2016, 02:08 PM) 
You have to specify; do you mean what plasmids I prefer or how to deal with the Little Sisters?
Both
QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Dec 18 2016, 09:09 PM)
QUOTE(mirocu @ Dec 18 2016, 02:08 PM)
You have to specify; do you mean what plasmids I prefer or how to deal with the Little Sisters?
Both
Ah, ok
Been a few years since I played these games, but I think I used electricity and fire a lot in both games. Ice not so much since that didn't get me any loot. I would have used more plasmids more often but I like to keep things simple as a complicated strategy can throw you off in a panic situation. I did use most of them though from time to time.
And I saved every Little Sister, wasn't even a choice for me. Can't be mean to an innocent child, you know
QUOTE(mirocu @ Dec 18 2016, 02:17 PM)
QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Dec 18 2016, 09:09 PM)
QUOTE(mirocu @ Dec 18 2016, 02:08 PM)
You have to specify; do you mean what plasmids I prefer or how to deal with the Little Sisters?
Both
Ah, ok
Been a few years since I played these games, but I think I used electricity and fire a lot in both games. Ice not so much since that didn't get me any loot. I would have used more plasmids more often but I like to keep things simple as a complicated strategy can throw you off in a panic situation. I did use most of them though from time to time.
And I saved every Little Sister, wasn't even a choice for me. Can't be mean to an innocent child, you know
I really could never harvest any of them. I remember the options coming up on the screen the first time but I only saw "Save" and thus I chose it.
ADAM may be useful but I did have guns which is all I really need...
ADAM may be useful but I did have guns which is all I really need...
QUOTE(mirocu @ Dec 18 2016, 02:53 PM)
I really could never harvest any of them. I remember the options coming up on the screen the first time but I only saw "Save" and thus I chose it.
ADAM may be useful but I did have guns which is all I really need...
It's cool that the game gives you that option.
Oh, definitely. I like that the game allows you to play however you want as much as possible. After all, we're all ES fans here, right?
QUOTE(mirocu @ Dec 18 2016, 03:06 PM)
Oh, definitely. I like that the game allows you to play however you want as much as possible. After all, we're all ES fans here, right?
Exactamundo!
Not to steal Khajiit's way of talking, but this one is off to bed now.
Only problem is I've had a real BESTie evening; listening to some of their songs over and over plus watching a couple of their dance instruction videos just for fun. So I'm gonna have a hard time going to sleep now
But I'll try:
Only problem is I've had a real BESTie evening; listening to some of their songs over and over plus watching a couple of their dance instruction videos just for fun. So I'm gonna have a hard time going to sleep now
But I'll try:
QUOTE(mirocu @ Dec 18 2016, 04:00 PM)
Not to steal Khajiit's way of talking, but this one is off to bed now.
Only problem is I've had a real BESTie evening; listening to some of their songs over and over plus watching a couple of their dance instruction videos just for fun. So I'm gonna have a hard time going to sleep now
But I'll try:
Raven is overstimulated! Lol
G'night, Mr. Nevermore!
I was indeed by somehow I managed to fall asleep
I also watched two compilations of their instagram videos yesterday. Man, those girls are goofy!
I also watched two compilations of their instagram videos yesterday. Man, those girls are goofy!
QUOTE(mirocu @ Dec 19 2016, 01:38 AM)
I was indeed by somehow I managed to fall asleep
I also watched two compilations of their instagram videos yesterday. Man, those girls are goofy!
Khajiit likes goofy people! Most of the time
Time for Khajiit to go to sleep. Goodnight all!
Nighty-night!
QUOTE(mirocu @ Dec 18 2016, 04:22 AM)
Khajiits and mALXes alike, I reckon
Whatchya doing then, Khajiit? I spent yesterday browsing the Bioshock wiki
mALX's only climb up the real fir trees, lol.
QUOTE(mirocu @ Dec 18 2016, 02:36 PM)
Edit: Or do you mean how he was playing wrong? Well, he merely played too fast. I want to explore, look in every crate etc and generally take it slower. That's what I had to do right
Most def agree with this.
Me too - prefer to explore and get to know an area inch by inch rather than zipping from quest arrow to quest arrow.
Ooops, for a moment thought this was the ESO thread . . .
Ooops, for a moment thought this was the ESO thread . . .
QUOTE(haute ecole rider @ Dec 19 2016, 10:14 AM)
Me too - prefer to explore and get to know an area inch by inch rather than zipping from quest arrow to quest arrow.
Ooops, for a moment thought this was the ESO thread . . .
I had a whole paragraph saying the same thing, but deleted it for my short answer, lol. But yeah, I have played with some people that act like getting to the big boss at the end of a dungeon (or from big boss to big boss in a dungeon) is the only important part - I want to explore and loot. I know you can't take too long or the enemies will respawn on you, but ... it doesn't take long to hit the bookshelves and open a chest or urn.
Wow just met a cashier at Walmart named Vivek hahaha!
QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ Dec 19 2016, 04:34 PM)
Wow just met a cashier at Walmart named Vivek hahaha!
No kidding??
Did you refer to him as The Mangod?
QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ Dec 19 2016, 10:34 AM)
Wow just met a cashier at Walmart named Vivek hahaha!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT !!!!!!!!!! I wonder how many people approach him with comments on his name?
QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ Dec 19 2016, 09:34 AM)
Wow just met a cashier at Walmart named Vivek hahaha!
Lol, did you tell him his name was misspelled?
QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Dec 19 2016, 04:40 PM)
QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ Dec 19 2016, 09:34 AM)
Wow just met a cashier at Walmart named Vivek hahaha!
Lol, did you tell him his name was misspelled?
Probably best not to tempt his wrath, just in case...
I'd have accused him of murdering Nerevar.
QUOTE(Cain @ Dec 19 2016, 08:51 PM)
I'd have accused him of murdering Nerevar.
QUOTE(Cain @ Dec 19 2016, 01:51 PM)
I'd have accused him of murdering Nerevar.
Bahahaha!
Khajiit doesn't really understand why Baar Dau was allowed to hover over Vivec City. UESP says it was allowed by Vivec as a threat to the city if they ever stopped loving him. This seems rather crappy of Vivec. Should've had folks with pickaxes and other such tools up there breaking it down so that it wouldn't be a threat any more.
QUOTE(Cain @ Dec 19 2016, 02:51 PM)
I'd have accused him of murdering Nerevar.
QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Dec 19 2016, 03:53 PM)
Khajiit doesn't really understand why Baar Dau was allowed to hover over Vivec City. UESP says it was allowed by Vivec as a threat to the city if they ever stopped loving him. This seems rather crappy of Vivec. Should've had folks with pickaxes and other such tools up there breaking it down so that it wouldn't be a threat any more.
Maybe it was really a Vivec doppleganger (like Uriel Septim/Jagar Tharn during the Imperial Simulacrum).
Wish I could get me some jolly Christmas crackers
QUOTE(mirocu @ Dec 19 2016, 03:41 PM)
Wish I could get me some jolly Christmas crackers
What are these crackers you speak of?
You know, those things you snap open and out flies a paper hat, a joke and a plastic toy, all from Poundland
QUOTE(mirocu @ Dec 19 2016, 03:48 PM)
You know, those things you snap open and out flies a paper hat, a joke and a plastic toy, all from Poundland
Oooh ok!
Heh, I'd better start looking to see if I can get sponsorship from them. I've promoted them quite good thus far
QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Dec 19 2016, 08:53 PM)
Khajiit doesn't really understand why Baar Dau was allowed to hover over Vivec City. UESP says it was allowed by Vivec as a threat to the city if they ever stopped loving him. This seems rather crappy of Vivec. Should've had folks with pickaxes and other such tools up there breaking it down so that it wouldn't be a threat any more.
Some thoughts off the top of my head:
Well for one; Vivec could be kind of crappy like that.
For two; It serves as a monument to his power. Should his people take him for granted, or think him powerless, he could show them exactly what that would look like.
For three; Insurance against the coming of the Nerevarine. WMD looming overhead rather eliminates the possibility of a popular uprising.
And finally; Insurance against the Nerevarine themselves. Kill Vivec, or deprive him of access to the Heart and Kagrenac's tools, and catastrophe ensues. A city full of hostages, and a potential scorched earth policy, would have given him substantial leverage.
QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Dec 19 2016, 03:58 PM)
Some thoughts off the top of my head:
Well for one; Vivec could be kind of crappy like that.
For two; It serves as a monument to his power. Should his people take him for granted, or think him powerless, he could show them exactly what that would look like.
For three; Insurance against the coming of the Nerevarine. WMD looming overhead rather eliminates the possibility of a popular uprising.
And finally; Insurance against the Nerevarine themselves. Kill Vivec, or deprive him of access to the Heart and Kagrenac's tools, and catastrophe ensues. A city full of hostages, and a potential scorched earth policy, would have given him substantial leverage.
So he goes to all that trouble just to resign himself (and thus The Tribunal) to his fate when confronted by the Nerevarine?
QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Dec 19 2016, 10:24 PM)
QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Dec 19 2016, 03:58 PM)
Some thoughts off the top of my head:
Well for one; Vivec could be kind of crappy like that.
For two; It serves as a monument to his power. Should his people take him for granted, or think him powerless, he could show them exactly what that would look like.
For three; Insurance against the coming of the Nerevarine. WMD looming overhead rather eliminates the possibility of a popular uprising.
And finally; Insurance against the Nerevarine themselves. Kill Vivec, or deprive him of access to the Heart and Kagrenac's tools, and catastrophe ensues. A city full of hostages, and a potential scorched earth policy, would have given him substantial leverage.
So he goes to all that trouble just to resign himself (and thus The Tribunal) to his fate when confronted by the Nerevarine?
Dagoth Ur had become a threat The Tribunal couldn't deal with. By that point Sotha Sil and Almalexia had lost Sunder and Keening, denying the Tribunal the source of their power. Those two were practically in hiding, and Vivec was putting so much into maintaining the Ghostfence that he couldn't even leave his palace.
There was no longer anything to be gained by opposing the Nerevarine, who was the only one capable of stopping Dagoth Ur.
QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Dec 19 2016, 04:37 PM)
Dagoth Ur had become a threat The Tribunal couldn't deal with. By that point Sotha Sil and Almalexia had lost Sunder and Keening, denying the Tribunal the source of their power. Those two were practically in hiding, and Vivec was putting so much into maintaining the Ghostfence that he couldn't even leave his palace.
There was no longer anything to be gained by opposing the Nerevarine, who was the only one capable of stopping Dagoth Ur.
QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Dec 19 2016, 11:13 PM)
QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Dec 19 2016, 04:37 PM)
Dagoth Ur had become a threat The Tribunal couldn't deal with. By that point Sotha Sil and Almalexia had lost Sunder and Keening, denying the Tribunal the source of their power. Those two were practically in hiding, and Vivec was putting so much into maintaining the Ghostfence that he couldn't even leave his palace.
There was no longer anything to be gained by opposing the Nerevarine, who was the only one capable of stopping Dagoth Ur.
As long as the Tribunal had access to the Heart, they were gods, albeit gods lacking inherent divinity, so they could get away with it. It was arrogant of them to think that they could maintain it indefinitely, but I suppose arrogance comes with that kind of power. Though Vivec pretty much earned his godhood via other means after the fact. But presenting themselves as gods gave them both authority and control, as well as an unassailable position.
All thing considered, it was probably worth their gamble.
Edit: urgh, it takes me way too long to type
QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Dec 19 2016, 06:12 PM)
As long as the Tribunal had access to the Heart, they were gods, albeit gods lacking inherent divinity, so they could get away with it. It was arrogant of them to think that they could maintain it indefinitely, but I suppose arrogance comes with that kind of power. Though Vivec pretty much earned his godhood via other means after the fact. But presenting themselves as gods gave them both authority and control, as well as an unassailable position.
All thing considered, it was probably worth their gamble.
Edit: urgh, it takes me way too long to type
This makes sense, Khajiit supposes. It is easy for this one to say they were fools for setting themselves up as gods, but not being true gods (and therefore not omnipotent), they probably didn't foresee the trouble they would have in maintaining their "godhood".
QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Dec 19 2016, 05:24 PM)
QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Dec 19 2016, 03:58 PM)
Some thoughts off the top of my head:
Well for one; Vivec could be kind of crappy like that.
For two; It serves as a monument to his power. Should his people take him for granted, or think him powerless, he could show them exactly what that would look like.
For three; Insurance against the coming of the Nerevarine. WMD looming overhead rather eliminates the possibility of a popular uprising.
And finally; Insurance against the Nerevarine themselves. Kill Vivec, or deprive him of access to the Heart and Kagrenac's tools, and catastrophe ensues. A city full of hostages, and a potential scorched earth policy, would have given him substantial leverage.
So he goes to all that trouble just to resign himself (and thus The Tribunal) to his fate when confronted by the Nerevarine?
What if it was all illusion magic = a bluff? He says "If anyone dares," well, Baar Dau was huge so no one dared oppose Vivec or it. The first one that did dare was the Nerevarine; so Vivec would have to step down since the threat was only an illusion to begin with.
QUOTE(mALX @ Dec 19 2016, 08:57 PM)
What if it was all illusion magic? He says "If anyone dares," well, Baar Dau was huge so no one dared oppose Vivec or it. The first one that did dare was the Nerevarine; so Vivec would have to step down since the threat was only an illusion to begin with.
So basically, Vivec had no control over Baar Dau and the Nerevarine called his bluff?
QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Dec 19 2016, 06:13 PM)
QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Dec 19 2016, 04:37 PM)
Dagoth Ur had become a threat The Tribunal couldn't deal with. By that point Sotha Sil and Almalexia had lost Sunder and Keening, denying the Tribunal the source of their power. Those two were practically in hiding, and Vivec was putting so much into maintaining the Ghostfence that he couldn't even leave his palace.
There was no longer anything to be gained by opposing the Nerevarine, who was the only one capable of stopping Dagoth Ur.
Power. If your goal is power, and you can get it by creating the image that you are a god - if it works, even for a while, you have achieved your goal.
QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Dec 19 2016, 07:12 PM)
As long as the Tribunal had access to the Heart, they were gods, albeit gods lacking inherent divinity, so they could get away with it. It was arrogant of them to think that they could maintain it indefinitely, but I suppose arrogance comes with that kind of power. Though Vivec pretty much earned his godhood via other means after the fact. But presenting themselves as gods gave them both authority and control, as well as an unassailable position.
All thing considered, it was probably worth their gamble.
Edit: urgh, it takes me way too long to type
THORNY !!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOT !!!! And very good point !!!
QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Dec 19 2016, 10:00 PM)
QUOTE(mALX @ Dec 19 2016, 08:57 PM)
What if it was all illusion magic? He says "If anyone dares," well, Baar Dau was huge so no one dared oppose Vivec or it. The first one that did dare was the Nerevarine; so Vivec would have to step down since the threat was only an illusion to begin with.
So basically, Vivec had no control over Baar Dau and the Nerevarine called his bluff?
I was saying that Baar Dau was the illusion.
Good morning, Elder Scrolls nerds!
QUOTE(mirocu @ Dec 20 2016, 02:14 AM)
Good morning, Elder Scrolls nerds!
Hello there, mALX! I see you're sporting the bushy ears look today
QUOTE(mirocu @ Dec 20 2016, 02:06 AM)
Hello there, mALX! I see you're sporting the bushy ears look today
She looks like Khajiit's cousin Lynx with the ear tufts!
She does! 
Incidentally, I think there is a Lynx snowmobile brand. Is mALX a new salessquirrel for them perhaps?
Incidentally, I think there is a Lynx snowmobile brand. Is mALX a new salessquirrel for them perhaps?
QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Dec 20 2016, 12:52 AM)
QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Dec 19 2016, 06:12 PM)
As long as the Tribunal had access to the Heart, they were gods, albeit gods lacking inherent divinity, so they could get away with it. It was arrogant of them to think that they could maintain it indefinitely, but I suppose arrogance comes with that kind of power. Though Vivec pretty much earned his godhood via other means after the fact. But presenting themselves as gods gave them both authority and control, as well as an unassailable position.
All thing considered, it was probably worth their gamble.
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This makes sense, Khajiit supposes. It is easy for this one to say they were fools for setting themselves up as gods, but not being true gods (and therefore not omnipotent), they probably didn't foresee the trouble they would have in maintaining their "godhood".
I'm not sure that any entity in TES is omnipotent. Not any of the ones we have any kind of contact with, at least. As for the Tribunal, they thought Dagoth Ur was dead, so what was their that could challenge them? And by the time they learnt he was alive, it was far too late to do anything.
QUOTE(mALX @ Dec 20 2016, 03:07 AM)
THORNY !!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOT !!!!
I'm now able to type a little with my left hand, but I'm trying to avoid it for the most part. It's not quite painful, but typing anything more than a couple of short sentences is uncomfortable. I've regained just about all of the flexibility in the wrist, though it's still a little weak, and it can't handle much in the way of pressure for any length of time. But even so, it's still improving faster than I expected.
QUOTE(mALX @ Dec 20 2016, 03:07 AM)
QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Dec 19 2016, 10:00 PM)
QUOTE(mALX @ Dec 19 2016, 08:57 PM)
What if it was all illusion magic? He says "If anyone dares," well, Baar Dau was huge so no one dared oppose Vivec or it. The first one that did dare was the Nerevarine; so Vivec would have to step down since the threat was only an illusion to begin with.
So basically, Vivec had no control over Baar Dau and the Nerevarine called his bluff?
I was saying that Baar Dau was the illusion.
If that were the case it would have disappeared after Vivec vanished.
I heard even the mangod Vivec has fallen to the daedra hordes!
Well, he did do the deed with Molag Bal.
Well, he IS the magic hermaphrodite after all. It doesn't surprise me that he tumbled with Molag Bal.
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