QUOTE(ImperialSnob @ Dec 8 2013, 12:24 PM)

They're very much like the books,also I think you're a little passionate about this,almost TOO passionate.
For one, the Hobbit was a single book, shorter in itself than any of the volumes of Lord of the Rings.
And I am simply sick and tired of films supposedly based of books they bear only token resemblance to.
They could have made a single film out of The Hobbit, covered everything in the book, and I wouldn't object to it. But inventing a shitload of stuff to pad the story out to three films and then passing it off as the work of Tolkien is ridiculous.
QUOTE(McBadgere @ Dec 8 2013, 12:25 PM)

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Dec 8 2013, 12:19 PM)

The Hobbit films are abominations.
You simply cannot make a trilogy of films out of a book that size. More than half of what's in those films is completely made up, not to mention farcical. Take Radagast for instance. The sum total of his inclusion in The Hobbit was an extremely minor reference in a conversation between Gandalf and Beorn. That's it, there's literally nothing else.
And those are the most elven looking dwarves I've ever seen.
Well, they did...
And so what if they did make stuff up?...It's good stuff!!...And Radagast was written especially for Sylvester "7th Doctor" McCoy, as Peter Jackson had loved him so much when he auditioned for - and only losing out to Ian Holm - the LOTR Bilbo...
And All the Istari make an appearance in several other places in the Lost Tales and all that stuff...So at least some of what they're putting in comes from somewhere else in the Tolkien-verse...
And Radagast was in the LOTR novels (I forget if it's FOTR or one of the others) briefly, so again, he's there...
I loved the first film...So much looking forward to these next two...
If they want to make stuff up, then they can make their own film, rather than sticking it somewhere it doesn't belong to pad out a story in order to milk a trilogy from it.
And for every bit they add from another Tlkien book, they add two like the part where Radagast helps them escape the goblins via a rabbit sled.
Radagast gets mentioned in the Lord of the Rings, but only in that Saruman used him as a messenger to lure Gandalf to Isengard, and again, that was only a short reference rather than him actually popping up.