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ghastley
On the EU server front, Tiddli and Nadja just did the Craglorn story quest to get Nirnhoned pieces for Fleur to research. So they'll be done in a month or so. And each of them is trying to get their own trait knowledge up to 8, so they can do the Eyevea and Earth Forge writs. We did a couple more master writs, and are half-way to the next station.

We're getting tempted to just dump all the master writs in the guild bank, so that anyone can do them, and contribute attunable stations if they feel inclined. Fleur will take out only what she can do.

Acadian
Slow but steady process for you over on EU.

Buffy's done with actual working in Cyrodiil for the event. She's got one sigil pet and all three frags for a second one. She's just popping into Cyrodiil for a few minutes daily to turn in a pre-done daily until the event ends. I think she'll finish with 8/12 tix.
ghastley
Jerric and Vicuña finally got together for a CoH run. it wasn't until our second attempt to take down the Illambris twins that we noticed we were doing it on vet level! ohmy.gif

At that point we needed help, and fortunately got it.

And the result is that V needs another run to get a piece of jewelry, as we still only have Ebon body wear. I also need to figure out what to adjust to get her Stamina back above Magicka when she swaps out the stam-enchanted Fortified Brass, I don't want to do it via CP, as she'd like to pick and choose between the two according to group/dungeon.
Acadian
Yikes! Illambris twins on vet. *shivers* They can be a challenge for a duo even on normal.
Grits
Pre-fight ritual:

Food check
Charge check

Is there a Jerric?-> Are you SURE we're on normal


My goodness, that was one to remember!
ghastley
My excuse for not noticing is that Vicuña is playing naked tank, so we were expecting it to be a bit harder than usual.

Just not quite that much. biggrin.gif
ghastley
Laurie took advantage of the post-event prices to buy her way to True Style Master, and that also got her Grand Master Crafter!

Now Blossom's envious. She only knows 17 motifs (less than her younger sister on EU).
Acadian
Very nice, ghastley!

Buffy the Magsorc has the 'done 100 master writs' achievement as the primary writster (and gear crafter) but Magplar also got that one so she could buy some of the fancier writ voucher furnishings since she's the furnisher. Then we learned that if the Magsorc had bought those recipes the Magplar could have learned them without the achievement. Update 29 really did a job on Buffy's clothing and jewelry tempers and her transmute gems so we are only now about to transition back from two sets of writs and two pledges a day to one set of writs and one pledge a day which is our 'norm'.
Lopov
I installed ESO again today. I'll most probably return to my longest-lasting character, the blue Argonian Shonta Quassan and finish the MQ with him, then we'll hopefully embark on other adventures. I was a bit disappointed to find out that I needed to reallocate all skill points, because I forgot some stuff about him already in between, after all I played with him for the last time in December 2019. I also noticed that the CP system is new, so I'll also need some time to get a feel of it, but overall it seems easier, at least to me.

I have another character on the NA server, namely Garrick the Bard, who roams between towns and plays his lute, flute or drums. He'll serve as a side character and probably won't do any quests.

Interesting enough, my only character on the EU Server - Tiger - got lost for some reason. indifferent.gif Unless I somehow deleted him by mistake but that's fairly unlikely. It's not really a biggie, because I finished the TG questline with him and since that was my only goal with him, I can more or less say that his story is / was over.

Anyway, good to be back.
Acadian
Great to have you back, Lopov! ESO is a dynamic world and if you play regularly, the small, frequent changes are easy to deal with and can even keep things interesting. I feel for you though in trying to catch up with several significant updates! Being patient, using UESPwiki and lurking the official forums can help though.
Lopov
After some fiddling around I don't see it as that bad anymore that I needed to reallocate all my skill points, because it allows me to create a fresh build for my Argonian. And when kids go to sleep today, I'm off to study the new CP system.
Acadian
You're right on the skill points. The new cp system seems quite daunting at first but once used to it, feels much simpler. I found this link of help: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TcE...pyDw/edit#gid=0
Lopov
Thanks, I'll take a look at that later.
Grits
Welcome back! I'm glad that Shonta and Garrick made it. Sorry about Tiger. Maybe he sneaked off and you will find him some day in Elder Scrolls 6!

This is a great time to return. With the all of the changes, the game feels new to a lot of us.
Lopov
Yeah, there's definitely something new, something fresh about it. I needed to remind myself of various quests that Shonta Quassan has already been through, so that we're now better prepared for what lies ahead. Considering that he's in the Rift, it looks like that the end of the main quest and the alliance questline aren't that far away.

I also studied the CP to an extent and invested some points already (I also read some guides how to invest them wisely), and my first feeling compared to "old" Shonta Quassan is that he's now more powerful in combat or maybe it's just because I haven't been with him for so long. Not just because of the CP points but also because I changed some of his skills and he's also going to pursue some skills that were more or less untouched until now.

Lopov
At the only time of the day when I have time to play, there's been maintenance for 2 days in a row now. laugh.gif
ghastley
I'm getting the impression that ZOS want Mirri to advance everything faster than Bastian.

On the EU server, we're further along because of all the group activity at the guild meet, so things are happening sooner than on NA. We've been doing both FG quests and the Ashlander Ruin quests with Mirri, which gains us 250 Rapport points a day. Batian only has the MG dailies for 125, plus a visit to Eyevea for 10.

Mirri's second personal quest starts right after her first one completes, and you get to start the first at 1500 Rapport. The same rapport level starts Bastian's, but then you don't get the second until you add another 1250 Rapport and become "Close". With his slower progress, that's further away, and harder to reach.

So it looks like Mirri will be alone at the bar in Hunding's Palatial Hall for a while to come.
Acadian
Thanks, ghastley. Good to know.
hazmick
That's a handy tip r.e Mirri's rapport - I've been getting a little bit here and there as Ciri works on antiquities, but then we lost some for using the Blade of Woe (on an enemy in a delve) and then lost a little bit more when we (accidentally!) clicked on a torchbug that floated by and plucked it from the air kvleft.gif
mALX
QUOTE(ghastley @ Jun 11 2021, 08:11 AM) *

I'm getting the impression that ZOS want Mirri to advance everything faster than Bastian.

On the EU server, we're further along because of all the group activity at the guild meet, so things are happening sooner than on NA. We've been doing both FG quests and the Ashlander Ruin quests with Mirri, which gains us 250 Rapport points a day. Batian only has the MG dailies for 125, plus a visit to Eyevea for 10.

Mirri's second personal quest starts right after her first one completes, and you get to start the first at 1500 Rapport. The same rapport level starts Bastian's, but then you don't get the second until you add another 1250 Rapport and become "Close". With his slower progress, that's further away, and harder to reach.

So it looks like Mirri will be alone at the bar in Hunding's Palatial Hall for a while to come.


Ooh, thanks for that information!

QUOTE(hazmick @ Jun 11 2021, 08:39 AM) *

That's a handy tip r.e Mirri's rapport - I've been getting a little bit here and there as Ciri works on antiquities, but then we lost some for using the Blade of Woe (on an enemy in a delve) and then lost a little bit more when we (accidentally!) clicked on a torchbug that floated by and plucked it from the air kvleft.gif


And this info too! We discovered that Bastion loves mudcrabs and gets upset if you kill them at the EU guild meet; so maybe we should keep lists of this stuff under the "Tips and Tricks" thread so we can keep track of what loses rapport or gains it.






hazmick
I spoke to Mirri and she says she hates goblins, snakes, and boats. Sure enough I gained some rapport after I killed some goblins and again after killing a snake.

mALX
QUOTE(hazmick @ Jun 11 2021, 02:39 PM) *

I spoke to Mirri and she says she hates goblins, snakes, and boats. Sure enough I gained some rapport after I killed some goblins and again after killing a snake.


This is Awesome info! I might make myself a list, lol.



ghastley
UESP is accumulating a list here. If the values are available to the UI add-ons then it won't be long before there's s tool for it.

I hope Bastian has an equivalent daily he likes doing to match Mirri's Ashlander one. I'd much prefer getting 125 points at a time, rather than killing 125 snakes. biggrin.gif
mALX
QUOTE(ghastley @ Jun 11 2021, 02:55 PM) *

UESP is accumulating a list here. If the values are available to the UI add-ons then it won't be long before there's s tool for it.


Oh, this is terrific, thank you so much!




ghastley
I installed an add-on to show the actual rapport numbers (this one)and discovered that the "kill bandits" value for Bastian should be only +1, not +10, so I've updated the wiki.

But only after wasting at least a couple of hours with Blossom in Wrothgar. I'd started to doubt the value of killing bandits, and I turned out to be right. On the positive side, his extra levels were as expected.

Lopov
We finished the main questline in Murkmire yesterday, now we still have some of the region to explore, do some random adventuring and close up some quests. As I already commented in the Screenshot thread, I really am in love with everything that Murkmire has to offer. Usually I'm not someone that pays a lot of attention to music but the one in Murkmire immediately got my attention and as I was about to log in, I was looking forward to music as well. For instance, I can't recall the main music theme in any of other provinces we've been through but the one in Murkmire is often playing in the back of my mind, even when I'm not gaming.

I was also positively surprised how many times Shonta's race was recognized in dialogues. Maybe that's also the case if you're Dark Elf on Morrowind or Orc in Orsinium but it wasn't just one or two times that NPCs reacted to race, there were countless times, when he was recognizd as an Argonian.

So, as I said, we'll be staying in the swamps for some more, then it's probably off to Wrothgar.
Acadian
Lopov, so glad you enjoyed Murkmire! As I've said, Buffy did also. Wrothgar. . . not so much. Too cold and too many frustrating to navigate due to 'cliff blocking'.

Buffy spent some time this week doing but not turning in 7 Cyrodiil quests in preparation for Midyear Mayhem. She also completed her 30 WBs weekly endeavor - that one was absolutely made for the voracious little WB hunter. tongue.gif
Lopov
I'll try and do DLCs in more or less chronological order of release, but I touched Murkmire first because I read that it's irrelevant when you complete it, whereas some other DLCs have intertwined stories and it's better to complete some of them before others.
ghastley
I've got Mirri and Bastion up to house-guest level of Rapport on both NA and EU servers, so it was time to do something about their combat levels. Since Floozie was in need of another Rattlecage ring, so she can swap out her Ring of the Pale Order for group situations, we decided to do some nVoM with Bastian as a tank.

The other part of that was that enough heavy companion gear had dropped (because we weren't using it) that he could swap into that, plus sword and board, without further expense. With Floozie being a Templar, I expected she'd have enough heals to keep him alive. So we managed to get through, but probably no better than running fully solo, as Bastian has a nasty habit of roll-dodging out of area heals, and the dying.

I had much the same with Blossom, who's a Stamina Templar without the restoration staff, and uses Vigor as much as the class heals.

We picked up a Rattlecage necklace, and a Ring of the Worm, so RNG was acting on form. Bastian seemed to be getting a lot less XP than he usually did as mage in overland, perhaps because a tank does less damage?

Has anyone else run him as tank, and how did it work out for you?
Acadian
I'm running Bastion as a tank and like it - as long as the Buffy involved has reasonable 'heal other. skills. He does a much better job at not scattering foes than a ranged companion. The only 'ranged' skill I give him is the S&B gap closer so he always is in the middle of things. And he holds aggro on one target great.

Buffy the Wardens (bow and mag) like using the 'command pet' feature to start fights with her bear. So a ranged companion is out of the question for her since the companion and bear cue off the same command but the ranged attacker will always get aggro first (arrow/spell much faster than bear to close the distance). With a tank, the the bear and companion get to the target at the same time and it works well. And Wardens have plenty of healing for them.

Buffy the Magblade has poor 'heal other' skills so she runs Mirri (ranged dps) but slotted the Undaunted taunt to pull the inevitable aggro that Mirri pulls off of her. That works well.

Buffy the Bowsorc and Buffy the Magsorc have zero 'heal other' skills so they run Mirri also but ignore trying to keep her alive. They don't have room on their bars for a taunt. Despite that, Mirri rarely dies.
Lopov
Shonta Quassan is trying to collect missing stone tablets for the broken Xinchei-Konu calendar. We found five so far, some by luck already before starting the quest. So seven more remain. While we have some vague ideas, where to find the remaining ones, hints for some are very obscure so that should prove quite a challenge. In the meantime we're participating in group battles against Murkmire WBs, hoping to get some powerful items.
Acadian
Happy hunting to Shonta in Murkmire!

Buffy's been busy today as well. She spent some time in Cyrodiil early earning transmute crystals. Then a couple WBs for the endeavor. Then finished Mirri's first round of quests. Then did a pledge. She hopes to do another pledge, then advance some questing in Western Skyrim today.
ghastley
Timing is everything. Today's patch adds a delay between Mirri's first and second quests. We got both done on each server some time ago, so weren't affected. You have to do both before she's a house-guest, but that's account-wide, so we're good..
Lopov
We're thinking of visiting Wrothgar at some later point, because we already completed 'prologue' quests for both Morrowind and Summerset without knowing that these quests actually serve as introductions to respective DLCs. Can anyone confirm for me that the 'correct' order of playing through three DLCs is as follows: Morrowind-Clockwork City-Summerset? That is, it makes the most sense to play it through in such a way?

Acadian
Yes, you have the right of it. MW, CWC, SS (in that order) combine to form the larger story arc 'Daedric Wars'.
hazmick
Yup, you're generally advised to play DLCs in order of release , but you get all the quest starters thrown at you concurrently which can make it a bit confusing.
Grits
Jerric has finally completed all (as far as I can tell) of the base zone quests. He's heading to Craglorn next to finish up his business there. I should probably look up youtube walkthroughs to fill in the story gaps left by dungeon quests.
Lopov
Wow, that's a lot of quests to complete! Congratulations! goodjob.gif

Shonta Quassan completed the main questline on Vvardenfell and although there remain a lot of uncompleted side quests and undiscovered areas on Vvardenfell, he decided to leave the island of Dark Elves behind for a while. Soon he's about to visit the Clockwork City and also do some quests for the Mages Guild. He'll definitely return to Vvardenfell but it's hard to say, when.
Lopov
I have one question regarding the Deadly Aim.

"Increase your Damage done with single target attacks by 2%, per stage."

Does this also include attacks, caused by weapons (like during direct combat) or single attacks, caused through skills? Or both? Thanks.
Acadian
It definitely includes attacks that are direct damage single target and not over time. This includes all weapon light attacks, most weapon heavy attacks, and skills that directly smack only one target with one strike of damage (not over time). That is attacks that are direct damage, not over time and single target.

It definitely does not include skills you drop on the ground that do damage to any standing on the area of effect (like wall of elements or caltrops). That is, attacks that are not direct damage.

I'm not sure about attacks that directly smack one enemy but do damage over time, or about attacks that directly damage multiple foes at once (like lightning staff heavy attacks). That is, attacks that seem to be direct damage but also have an over time or multitarget component.
Lopov
Thanks for your thorough explanation, I thought that this doesn't affect DoT effects, but I wasn't sure, whether "single target" stands for damage, inflicted through weapons or skills. Oh and I see that I posted my question in a wrong thread, if one of the mods / admins can please move it to ESO Tips or some other help thread. Thanks. smile.gif
Grits
Jerric has been questing in Craglorn with Bastian. The place is a mess. He is not really sure what’s going on, but the weather is fine and there’s a mage he likes so they decided to help. This was perhaps not the best time to start teaching Bastian how to use a greatsword. Bastian has spent a lot of time on the ground. But as he says, the only shame is in not getting back up. Or something like that.

Jerric likes to open the crowded fights with an Empowering Sweep, which often earns a comment from Bastian. It has been funny to hear Bastian say “Now you’re just showing off!” or “Do you think that might have been excessive?” followed by a grunt as he hits the floor.

Today while they were battling a manticora, Jerric must have accidentally blown up a bug. Bastian hates that. It was a very fast and panicked fight because Jerric had never even heard of a manticora and it completely freaked him out. Manly battle shrieks were uttered. As he stood gawping at the carcass hoping that was sweat running into his boots, Bastian said from somewhere back by the door, “You’re going to eat that, right?”

mALX
QUOTE(ghastley @ Jun 19 2021, 07:14 PM) *

I installed an add-on to show the actual rapport numbers (this one)and discovered that the "kill bandits" value for Bastian should be only +1, not +10, so I've updated the wiki.

But only after wasting at least a couple of hours with Blossom in Wrothgar. I'd started to doubt the value of killing bandits, and I turned out to be right. On the positive side, his extra levels were as expected.


Ooh, that helps to know, thank you!





QUOTE(Grits @ Aug 14 2021, 09:57 PM) *

Jerric has been questing in Craglorn with Bastian. The place is a mess. He is not really sure what’s going on, but the weather is fine and there’s a mage he likes so they decided to help. This was perhaps not the best time to start teaching Bastian how to use a greatsword. Bastian has spent a lot of time on the ground. But as he says, the only shame is in not getting back up. Or something like that.

Jerric likes to open the crowded fights with an Empowering Sweep, which often earns a comment from Bastian. It has been funny to hear Bastian say “Now you’re just showing off!” or “Do you think that might have been excessive?” followed by a grunt as he hits the floor.

Today while they were battling a manticora, Jerric must have accidentally blown up a bug. Bastian hates that. It was a very fast and panicked fight because Jerric had never even heard of a manticora and it completely freaked him out. Manly battle shrieks were uttered. As he stood gawping at the carcass hoping that was sweat running into his boots, Bastian said from somewhere back by the door, “You’re going to eat that, right?”


rollinglaugh.gif rollinglaugh.gif rollinglaugh.gif Omg, you owe me a keyboard on this post, laugh.gif




Acadian
Agree with Jerric on Craglorn. Buffy is quite methodical about exploring zones, but the questing/what is group/what is solo in Craglorn is so broke/confusing that she doesn't worry about that at all borrows the exploring technique of a robotic vacuum - run in one direction until you bump into something, then turn and run another direction. Acadian calls it random helter-skelter.

Ahah, so that is what it looks like with Bastion looking up at you. Given Buffy's height, she only knows what he looks like when he is looking down at her.
Grits
Jerric and Bastian have retreated to the Crossroads Tavern in a dejected state. They spent the afternoon getting absolutely battered in Shada’s Tear. When they reached the final chamber and faced Shada herself, she summoned mages that they just couldn’t get past.

It was a lot of fun getting to the end, though. Poor Bastian still cannot tell the difference between Jerric’s runes and puddles of poison, but he does always get up and join the next fight. The location is gorgeous. Maybe it’s today’s update, but the light looks different somehow.
Lopov
QUOTE(Grits @ Aug 23 2021, 09:44 PM) *
Maybe it’s today’s update, but the light looks different somehow.


My thoughts exactly as we were exploring Summerset today. ohmy.gif I mean, Summerset has already been beautiful before but today it struck me as even more amazing.

So far we also like quests on Summerset (side ones, main ones are still untouched), they're a bit different and for the time being feel more unique compared to those that we've completed in Morrowind & Clockwork City.
ghastley
Yesterday, Fleur went on the Alik'r dolmen train collecting jewelry to deconstruct, because she needed iridium grains. She got enough to complete her jewel crafting writ, and we bought another attuneable crafting table for the EU guildhall.

One of today's daily endeavors is to deconstruct 10 pieces of jewelry. laugh.gif
Acadian
ghastley, isn't that the way? I figure Mirri will get at least one FG daily done today to blend some +rapport with at least 3 jewelry bits to decon.

At least Buffy's learned to try and save at least one treasure map in her bank to support endeavors that seem to somewhat regularly ask for them. And her alchemy daily writ today gave her 15 extra poisons to apply to 15 foes for another endeavor today.
Lopov
Shonta Quassan along with his flaming salamander Og'nyeni (and me) are still enjoying what Summerset has to offer. Not just from the visual perspective, but quests (side and main ones) feel to me somehow different compared to any other zone before. Even more so compared to Vvardenfell & Clockwork City, that from a trilogy together with Summerset, but I found both of them quite bland. I was talking with some fellow gamer in ESO the other day about this, and he said that it's apparently because quests in Summerset were created by people that didn't work on ESO before and they hired them after Clockwork City, specifically to raise the quality and quest-diversity of the game. He didn't know, whether the same team continued to work on any of the following DLCs.

After our interesting talk I tried to find this info online but didn't find anything, this guy however mentioned, that his info was confirmed in official forums. But in official credits of Vvardenfell and Summerset the names of creators are more or less the same, not of all, but of the majority for sure. So in the end I assume that the guy was wrong, but I still claim that quests are in Summerset are overall way better than in other zones.
Acadian
I confess, I didn't care for the questing or feel of either MW or CWC. Because Summerset is beautiful and feels neat, it had a huge advantage starting out. I thought the quests in Summerset were okay but the atmosphere of the zone (and Artaeum) really made things enjoyable.
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