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RaderOfTheLostArk
QUOTE(Lopov @ Oct 19 2019, 05:27 PM) *

Shonta Quassan was in troubles today after encountering the powerful hagraven, known as the Crow's Mother, so he called Cincy for help. Cincy killed the Crow's mother with ease, while Shonta Quassan admired the powerful Dragonknight, hoping to be as powerful as well one day. After the battle the Argonians danced to celebrate the victory and meeting.

Argonians dance

P.S.
I'll take a better screenie next time. tongue.gif Sorry for delays in chat responses, Rader, somehow I turned my chat into a zone mode, then it took me a while to figure out how to talk to you only.


Cincy and I are always happy to help egg-kin whenever we can! Shonta will get there one day. No worries on the chat. Honestly, I've only learned some of what I know about it recently myself.


QUOTE(Acadian @ Oct 19 2019, 05:39 PM) *

Woot! So glad that Shonta got some assistance. Yup, Cincinnatus is a strong character - glad he was there to help.


Cincy and I appreciate the compliment. We still have a ways to go to be one of the strongest of this guild, but he is making a lot of progress.

QUOTE(mALX @ Oct 19 2019, 05:53 PM) *

Ooh, nice that you got help when you needed it! Awesome! That is a pretty tough fight; she killed Misa a few times too.


I don't remember how I was able to beat the Crow Mother. It was a long time ago when I was a low-level character and before I understood how public dungeons work. I must have had somebody help me defeat it back then, because I don't see how I would've beat her on my own back then. (Cincy also questioned how an enemy that he clearly killed a long time ago was back from the dead like that, but he just shrugged it off.)
TheCheshireKhajiit
Ugh, Comcast dragging their feet about getting the internet set up at Khajiit’s new place! dry.gif
mALX
QUOTE(Lopov @ Oct 20 2019, 05:35 AM) *

QUOTE(Acadian @ Oct 19 2019, 11:39 PM) *

Woot! So glad that Shonta got some assistance. Yup, Cincinnatus is a strong character - glad he was there to help.

He is indeed. He also made sure to attack the Hagraven first, so she focused on him, not on Shonta.


Really good help; and yes = whoever attacks first or rushes the Boss first is the one he will focus on for a good 15 seconds.

** Tip: Be careful not to play with any Ice Staff; because their "Heavy Attack" actually taunts the Bosses to attack you for 15 seconds.

And Critical Hits: If the Boss is focused on another Player; you can get a critical hit on them without them focusing on you; but if you make a critical hit on an un-taunted Boss; they will focus their wrath on you immediately.

Of course = if you are playing solo; this won't matter as much; because you will be their only focus anyway.


QUOTE(RaderOfTheLostArk @ Oct 20 2019, 11:59 AM) *

I don't remember how I was able to beat the Crow Mother. It was a long time ago when I was a low-level character and before I understood how public dungeons work. I must have had somebody help me defeat it back then, because I don't see how I would've beat her on my own back then. (Cincy also questioned how an enemy that he clearly killed a long time ago was back from the dead like that, but he just shrugged it off.)


I had to call a friend to come help me beat her too; that is a tough fight!





QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Oct 20 2019, 12:47 PM) *

Ugh, Comcast dragging their feet about getting the internet set up at Khajiit’s new place! dry.gif


Grrrrr! That is unacceptable !!!!! sad.gif


TheCheshireKhajiit
Woohoo! Got my cable turned on at the new place and I’m currently downloading the latest patch. Bring on the Witches Festival!!
mALX
QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Oct 22 2019, 11:25 AM) *

Woohoo! Got my cable turned on at the new place and I’m currently downloading the latest patch. Bring on the Witches Festival!!



WOOOOOOOOOOOOOT !!!!! Awesome !!!!!



RaderOfTheLostArk
By far the biggest thing to report from Cincy's adventures this past week is that he just completed the Summerset DLC and saved all of reality. Opposing Daedric Princes has just become an ordinary Tirdas for our favorite Argonian.

And I've got something to say about something in particular in the DLC:

ghastley
I don't read it that way.

mALX
QUOTE(RaderOfTheLostArk @ Oct 22 2019, 02:13 PM) *

By far the biggest thing to report from Cincy's adventures this past week is that he just completed the Summerset DLC and saved all of reality. Opposing Daedric Princes has just become an ordinary Tirdas for our favorite Argonian.

And I've got something to say about something in particular in the DLC:





I didn't know about that written thing by Darien; will have to look that up and find it in game!




Lopov
The Witches Festival is fun, especially killing powerful bosses in groups.

What exactly must one do to gain the attention of the boss during a fight? Hit it critically? For instance, when the battle began, the boss would focus on the first player that attacked it, just like the Crow Mother focused on Cincinnatus the other day. Eventually, all of the bosses would turn at Shonta Quassan at some point and pursue him. laugh.gif We got a bit scared, but obviously we were doing "something right". After a while they'd turn on another.

The most memorable experience was with the Shellcracker. A three of us were along the coast, a player of level 9, another of level 18 and me of level 24. Not a very powerful bunch obviously. Neither of us initiated the fight, I gues we were all waiting for one another. Then my Argonian encouraged himself, rushed ahead and provoked the mudcrab, of course gaining his attention. The other two players immediately joined, but it turned out that there were more of them lurking behind the rocks and they all joined too. It took a while, because we were all low-leveled but we brought it down in the end. The mudcrab killed quite some of the combatants, but fortunately it didn't kill Shonta Quassan again. My Argonian finally got his revenge.
Acadian
Bosses are finicky with short attention spans. Generally they go after the first one who hurts them. The boss then typically reevaluates things about every 7 seconds, often going for whoever he might consider his threat of the moment - though there is certainly a good deal of randomness in it.

That said, players can 'taunt' the boss to attack them for 15 seconds using certain skills -
- Puncture (and morphs) from the 1 hand and shield skill line.
- Inner Fire (and morphs) from the Undaunted skill line.
- A heavy attack with a frost staff IF you have the Tri-Focus (Destruction staff passive) skill.

Tanks normally do the taunting and try to control the boss' aggro. Other players using taunts are discouraged since it frustrates and interferes with a tank who is purposefully trying to hold aggro on himself. More specifically, if you taunt a boss away from the tank, the tank will waste resources trying to regain taunt. If a boss gets taunted from differing players more than a couple times, they will go rogue for awhile ignoring all taunts. Since a tank's job is to hold aggro, tanks get testy when others taunt the boss. You can usually tell a tank because they generally try to display what they are by showing heavy armor, using a sword and shield on one bar (possibly sword & shield or ice staff on the other) and trying to get in the boss' face.



mALX
QUOTE(Lopov @ Oct 24 2019, 05:38 PM) *

The Witches Festival is fun, especially killing powerful bosses in groups.

What exactly must one do to gain the attention of the boss during a fight? Hit it critically? For instance, when the battle began, the boss would focus on the first player that attacked it, just like the Crow Mother focused on Cincinnatus the other day. Eventually, all of the bosses would turn at Shonta Quassan at some point and pursue him. laugh.gif We got a bit scared, but obviously we were doing "something right". After a while they'd turn on another.

The most memorable experience was with the Shellcracker. A three of us were along the coast, a player of level 9, another of level 18 and me of level 24. Not a very powerful bunch obviously. Neither of us initiated the fight, I gues we were all waiting for one another. Then my Argonian encouraged himself, rushed ahead and provoked the mudcrab, of course gaining his attention. The other two players immediately joined, but it turned out that there were more of them lurking behind the rocks and they all joined too. It took a while, because we were all low-leveled but we brought it down in the end. The mudcrab killed quite some of the combatants, but fortunately it didn't kill Shonta Quassan again. My Argonian finally got his revenge.


Any time you do a critical hit on an un-taunted Boss; you will grab his attention immediately. If he is taunted; he will ignore your critical hits; so with a Tank holding him = you can bring his health down REALLY fast by hitting him critically like that.

What was happening that you described above was that you were making a lot of critical hits on him; while no one was taunting him = so he immediately came right after you.

I have that trouble in fighting the dragons; because they don't usually have Tanks there holding the dragon. More than once I have used the Fighters Guild "Leash" on a dragon (which is almost always a critical hit) and had the dragon immediately turn around and come after me.

You may die a lot in this game; so it is important to keep a good sized stack of filled Soul Gems in your inventory at all times.





treydog
Athynae has gotten 8 Plunder Skulls today- and completed all bosses in Bad Man's Hallows. She is feeling good at the moment.
TheCheshireKhajiit
QUOTE(treydog @ Oct 24 2019, 07:28 PM) *

Athynae has gotten 8 Plunder Skulls today- and completed all bosses in Bad Man's Hallows. She is feeling good at the moment.

Bad Man’s is a favorite of my Brenna’s!
Lopov
QUOTE(Acadian @ Oct 25 2019, 12:01 AM) *
Bosses are finicky with short attention spans. Generally they go after the first one who hurts them. The boss then typically reevaluates things about every 7 seconds, often going for whoever he might consider his threat of the moment - though there is certainly a good deal of randomness in it.

That said, players can 'taunt' the boss to attack them for 15 seconds using certain skills -
- Puncture (and morphs) from the 1 hand and shield skill line.
- Inner Fire (and morphs) from the Undaunted skill line.
- A heavy attack with a frost staff IF you have the Tri-Focus (Destruction staff passive) skill.

Tanks normally do the taunting and try to control the boss' aggro. Other players using taunts are discouraged since it frustrates and interferes with a tank who is purposefully trying to hold aggro on himself. More specifically, if you taunt a boss away from the tank, the tank will waste resources trying to regain taunt. If a boss gets taunted from differing players more than a couple times, they will go rogue for awhile ignoring all taunts. Since a tank's job is to hold aggro, tanks get testy when others taunt the boss. You can usually tell a tank because they generally try to display what they are by showing heavy armor, using a sword and shield on one bar (possibly sword & shield or ice staff on the other) and trying to get in the boss' face.


From what I read, I see that Shonta Quassan doesn't have any skills that he could taunt the bosses with, so I assume it's because of what mALX said, that he hit them critically a few times and they focused on him.

QUOTE(mALX @ Oct 25 2019, 01:24 AM) *
You may die a lot in this game; so it is important to keep a good sized stack of filled Soul Gems in your inventory at all times.


Fortunately every boss drops one or two, so we're stocking up on soul gems nicely.

Is there any purpose to plunder skills once you take out the content? I can't seem to put them into containers and they can't be sold either.
mALX
QUOTE(Lopov @ Oct 25 2019, 02:58 AM) *

[qIs there any purpose to plunder skills once you take out the content? I can't seem to put them into containers and they can't be sold either.


Once you open the Plunder Skull (by clicking "E") and empty it out (by clicking "R") = the Plunder Skull will disappear from your inventory. If you still see one in there; it is because you killed more than one boss or maybe got a double drop of Loot.





ghastley
I'm still figuring out what I want from the event.

No interest in Indrik, but you get a couple of tickets whatever you do. I haven't checked out what the Impresario is selling yet.

Spreads went Skyshard hunting, (and a Bolgrul, for Undaunted as well), as she needs a few skill points, so that gave us plunder skulls from the delve bosses, and since one was from a public dungeon, we got two Dremora skulls. At that point, decided to pass a World Boss on the way home and help grab another. So now we have several more Dremora and Hollowjack pages, but Laurie already knows all of those. Blossom probably does, too.

Also included were some Witches Writs, which pay out in writ vouchers. Spreads did one herself, as she'd pick up the recipe in the skull before it, but had to pass the next two to Laurie. A dozen more vouchers were welcome. I'm still figuring out the rules for those writs. It looks like I want to pass them all to one character to get the hat, which is a collectible, and so available account-wide? Right now, Spreads has a count of one done, and Laurie has two, so little damage done.

We already bought the Cottage for gold after doing the quests last time. Nothing to chase there.

Double XP is not really giving us much with all characters at L50 and capped.
RaderOfTheLostArk
Finally got around to trying Battlegrounds last night. Deathmatch did not go well. Cincy fought for the Storm Lords along with 2 CP 810s and a CP 14 and we just got clobbered. But so did one of the other teams, with I think was the Fire Drakes. The Pit Daemons must have been really experienced, I guess. We tied for 2nd with the Drakes...at 15 team points. That's how badly the Daemons wiped us both out.

But the script was totally flipped for a Domination game. Our team just clicked really well together, with a good strategy and seemingly able to read each others' thought processes. Cincy got the 2nd most individual (medal) points and was close to first, even getting a couple of assisted kills. For some reason, I did not think about taking a screenshot, and I really wished I did.

In other news, Cincy has tackled some Vvardenfell points of interest the past few days. The Balmora quest, which turned out to be a short questline, was quite a trip. And Cincy got to reunite with his old pal Naryu (I imagine that if they had Facebook, their relationship status would be "It's complicated.") Also knocked out Ald'ruhn, Suran, and Molag Mar, and Suran's quest netted him the rad Scarlet Judge outfit (which I still have equipped).
Acadian
Ghastley, Buffy's only looking for a couple things from the festival. The Empressaio sells Glenmoril style pages for tix and it is a pretty nice style. Then, as you said, doing 13 event writs on one char will get you the witch hat (which is account wide).

Rader, you're very brave to try Battlegrounds. They scare me too much. Much safer repairing walls in Cyrodiil methinks. tongue.gif
ghastley
QUOTE(Acadian @ Oct 26 2019, 08:46 PM) *

Ghastley, Buffy's only looking for a couple things from the festival. The Empressaio sells Glenmoril style pages for tix and it is a pretty nice style. Then, as you said, doing 13 event writs on one char will get you the witch hat (which is account wide).

Rader, you're very brave to try Battlegrounds. They scare me too much. Much safer repairing walls in Cyrodiil methinks. tongue.gif

The Glenmoril style pages are also being dropped indirectly as treasure maps, and we've run three of them so far. We'll hold off buying ages until we see what's left over.

Dremora pages we need are all from place we don't go - Arenas and trials.
RaderOfTheLostArk
Addendum to my previous post that I forgot to mention:

[Censored] the Imperial City Arena. That The Watcher in the Wells quest is pure BS. I finally, FINALLY, was able to fight there without Dominion and Covenant players barging in, and they just throw so many damn NPC enemies at you that it is impossible to win on your own even at around CP360. At least, I'm not sure how to do it.

Actually, I got through the first 2 bosses after several brushes with death. Then when I was fighting the Ogrim boss, the Xivkyn ringmaster comes in during the middle and a bunch of flame atronachs spawn. That is [censored]. I was relegated to desperately flailing about trying to survive. There was NOTHING in this quest suggesting that it was necessary, or at least recommended, to group up.

*Sigh*... Does anyone with a Pact character want to help me out on that quest sometime?
ghastley
QUOTE(RaderOfTheLostArk @ Oct 27 2019, 01:20 AM) *

Addendum to my previous post that I forgot to mention:

[Censored] the Imperial City Arena. That The Watcher in the Wells quest is pure BS. I finally, FINALLY, was able to fight there without Dominion and Covenant players barging in, and they just throw so many damn NPC enemies at you that it is impossible to win on your own even at around CP360. At least, I'm not sure how to do it.

Actually, I got through the first 2 bosses after several brushes with death. Then when I was fighting the Ogrim boss, the Xivkyn ringmaster comes in during the middle and a bunch of flame atronachs spawn. That is [censored]. I was relegated to desperately flailing about trying to survive. There was NOTHING in this quest suggesting that it was necessary, or at least recommended, to group up.

*Sigh*... Does anyone with a Pact character want to help me out on that quest sometime?

I think you just eloquently explained why we don't go there. laugh.gif

My personal frustration is mudcrabs. Yes, mudcrabs.

The crew is doing all their daily crafting writs to raise gold for a house and the Alchemy writs regularly call for 3 mudcrab chitin. After enough of those, we run out of mudcrab chitin. And then we find that they don't drop it every time, they can drop nothing (too often) but also they can drop just leather, or random loot. So when we tried to gather three chitin, we got most of a suit of armour, and enough leather to make two more, before the chitin dropped. We're going to need a deliberate chitin-gathering expedition to get the stock back up.
Lopov
QUOTE
*Sigh*... Does anyone with a Pact character want to help me out on that quest sometime?

Give me a year or so and Shonta Quassan can return a favor from Crow's wood. wink.gif

I finished the so called regional story quests for Stonefalls yesterday. Must say, I'm overall impressed with quests, not only are they very dynamic, but there's depth to them, they form a complex story and it's nice that there are some recurring characters from quest to quest. So far I'm finding most quests more interesting than in Skyrim and even in Oblivion to some extent.

Now we come to a question, where I could easily look up for an answer on the UESP or any other ESO site, but those sites are full of spoilers, which you can read by accident, so I'll ask it here. After completing the final story quest in Stonefalls by



the quest finished but the new one didn't start. I have some other side quests to complete in Stonefalls and I can start another quest of the main questline - Chasing shadows. Must I complete a certain part of the MQ to be "invited" to another region or...what? bigsmile.gif

Thanks!
Acadian
Lopov, here is what I would do:

Take your time finishing all the sidequests and exploring Stonefalls until you are happy. By all means do a quest or two for the Prophet - each gives a ton of xp and a skill point. I would also consider working the MG and FG questlines as long as they keep you in Stonefalls. Those two guilds advance their questlines zone by zone so it matches up nicely. As far as the Prophet/MQ goes, I'd do one or two per zone as you move along.

When you are ready to continue the Ebonheart Pact questline on to the next zone, go to Ashen Road Wayshrine (in Stonefalls) and head south along the road. Go past Magma Flow Overlood crafting site and keep heading south on the road. About halfway between Magma Overflow and the end of the road/border you will find your next quest giver (Gorvyn Dran) who will assign your next quest and direct you to continue to the border into Deeshan.
Lopov
Thanks, I intend to stay in Stonefalls for quite a while, I still have some of the region to explore, not to mention that I'm still missing some skyshards. So far I've done only one MQ after the tutorial, the one where you need to liberate Lyris. I did one quest for the FG and for the next one I need to go to the Deshaan Guild Hall.

In fact I like it that the game doesn't force one too much to change the region, because here and there I still have passing thoughts of going to Vvardebfekk (that's what happens when my daughter slams on the keyboard biggrin.gif ). So yeah, maybe I'll try out Vvardenfell before moving to Deshaan. As far as I read of it, a separate story takes place there, although some players advise not to do it too early, because some things don't make sense story-wise if done too early. I still have plenty of time to think it over while exploring Stonefalls.
mALX
QUOTE(RaderOfTheLostArk @ Oct 26 2019, 08:28 PM) *

Finally got around to trying Battlegrounds last night. Deathmatch did not go well. Cincy fought for the Storm Lords along with 2 CP 810s and a CP 14 and we just got clobbered. But so did one of the other teams, with I think was the Fire Drakes. The Pit Daemons must have been really experienced, I guess. We tied for 2nd with the Drakes...at 15 team points. That's how badly the Daemons wiped us both out.

But the script was totally flipped for a Domination game. Our team just clicked really well together, with a good strategy and seemingly able to read each others' thought processes. Cincy got the 2nd most individual (medal) points and was close to first, even getting a couple of assisted kills. For some reason, I did not think about taking a screenshot, and I really wished I did.

In other news, Cincy has tackled some Vvardenfell points of interest the past few days. The Balmora quest, which turned out to be a short questline, was quite a trip. And Cincy got to reunite with his old pal Naryu (I imagine that if they had Facebook, their relationship status would be "It's complicated.") Also knocked out Ald'ruhn, Suran, and Molag Mar, and Suran's quest netted him the rad Scarlet Judge outfit (which I still have equipped).


I really enjoy those Battlegrounds games; and they are a lot easier to build points in than Deathmatch; (which sounded to me to be the easiest one to play; but it isn't, lol).

The one where you grab the flags is the one I excelled at.




QUOTE(RaderOfTheLostArk @ Oct 27 2019, 01:20 AM) *

Addendum to my previous post that I forgot to mention:

[Censored] the Imperial City Arena. That The Watcher in the Wells quest is pure BS. I finally, FINALLY, was able to fight there without Dominion and Covenant players barging in, and they just throw so many damn NPC enemies at you that it is impossible to win on your own even at around CP360. At least, I'm not sure how to do it.

Actually, I got through the first 2 bosses after several brushes with death. Then when I was fighting the Ogrim boss, the Xivkyn ringmaster comes in during the middle and a bunch of flame atronachs spawn. That is [censored]. I was relegated to desperately flailing about trying to survive. There was NOTHING in this quest suggesting that it was necessary, or at least recommended, to group up.

*Sigh*... Does anyone with a Pact character want to help me out on that quest sometime?



I've got a Pact Character; but she is terrible at PvP, lol.





QUOTE(ghastley @ Oct 27 2019, 08:57 AM) *

QUOTE(RaderOfTheLostArk @ Oct 27 2019, 01:20 AM) *

Addendum to my previous post that I forgot to mention:

[Censored] the Imperial City Arena. That The Watcher in the Wells quest is pure BS. I finally, FINALLY, was able to fight there without Dominion and Covenant players barging in, and they just throw so many damn NPC enemies at you that it is impossible to win on your own even at around CP360. At least, I'm not sure how to do it.

Actually, I got through the first 2 bosses after several brushes with death. Then when I was fighting the Ogrim boss, the Xivkyn ringmaster comes in during the middle and a bunch of flame atronachs spawn. That is [censored]. I was relegated to desperately flailing about trying to survive. There was NOTHING in this quest suggesting that it was necessary, or at least recommended, to group up.

*Sigh*... Does anyone with a Pact character want to help me out on that quest sometime?

I think you just eloquently explained why we don't go there. laugh.gif

My personal frustration is mudcrabs. Yes, mudcrabs.

The crew is doing all their daily crafting writs to raise gold for a house and the Alchemy writs regularly call for 3 mudcrab chitin. After enough of those, we run out of mudcrab chitin. And then we find that they don't drop it every time, they can drop nothing (too often) but also they can drop just leather, or random loot. So when we tried to gather three chitin, we got most of a suit of armour, and enough leather to make two more, before the chitin dropped. We're going to need a deliberate chitin-gathering expedition to get the stock back up.


The shores along that Argonian Village just to the East of Ebonheart is loaded with them. It is my regular gathering place for Mudcrab Chitin; just follow the shore all the way around those islands. If you swim across from there to where that Dolmen is; there are 3 along that shore too and two more as you walk toward the Dolmen from the shore (but the point of doing that is that it takes you out of the Ebonheart Cell so it resets). When you return the Mudcrabs in the Argonian Village have all respawned. The Eastern-most two islands have no Mudcrabs; but they do have some runestones; wood drops; and a camp and boat to explore = but it also takes you out of the Argonian Village Cell so it resets all the Mudcrabs again. You can keep making that circle till you are loaded up in Chitin.




QUOTE(Lopov @ Oct 27 2019, 11:09 AM) *

QUOTE
*Sigh*... Does anyone with a Pact character want to help me out on that quest sometime?

Give me a year or so and Shonta Quassan can return a favor from Crow's wood. wink.gif

I finished the so called regional story quests for Stonefalls yesterday. Must say, I'm overall impressed with quests, not only are they very dynamic, but there's depth to them, they form a complex story and it's nice that there are some recurring characters from quest to quest. So far I'm finding most quests more interesting than in Skyrim and even in Oblivion to some extent.

Now we come to a question, where I could easily look up for an answer on the UESP or any other ESO site, but those sites are full of spoilers, which you can read by accident, so I'll ask it here. After completing the final story quest in Stonefalls by



the quest finished but the new one didn't start. I have some other side quests to complete in Stonefalls and I can start another quest of the main questline - Chasing shadows. Must I complete a certain part of the MQ to be "invited" to another region or...what? bigsmile.gif

Thanks!


I think you have to go back and talk to someone. When you completed that final Quest; did you see anyone in the room with a quest marker over their head? Or did anyone ask you to carry a letter for them to a Cousin in Deshaan?

Is your Quest Journal empty for Stonefalls? And if it is empty; do you show any quests in your Journal for "Deshaan?" If yes, that is where your Quest is bringing you next; and the quest you took will end when you meet the person you are supposed to bring the letter to.

(The end of one Province's quest lines will always "help" you find the next Province's beginning Quest line).




mALX
QUOTE(Lopov @ Oct 27 2019, 12:23 PM) *

Thanks, I intend to stay in Stonefalls for quite a while, I still have some of the region to explore, not to mention that I'm still missing some skyshards. So far I've done only one MQ after the tutorial, the one where you need to liberate Lyris. I did one quest for the FG and for the next one I need to go to the Deshaan Guild Hall.

In fact I like it that the game doesn't force one too much to change the region, because here and there I still have passing thoughts of going to Vvardebfekk (that's what happens when my daughter slams on the keyboard biggrin.gif ). So yeah, maybe I'll try out Vvardenfell before moving to Deshaan. As far as I read of it, a separate story takes place there, although some players advise not to do it too early, because some things don't make sense story-wise if done too early. I still have plenty of time to think it over while exploring Stonefalls.


I liked that very well too; don't like feeling pushed through a game or Quest. The Prophet always makes everything sound dire and "Come right away!!!" - but you can take it in your own time; don't feel pushed (because the quest will still be there; and you can do it later).

On the Quests for Deshaan = yes, it will have different stories from the Stonefalls one; but since you are doing the "Ebonheart Alliance Main Questline = they actually are all connected to each other; and all tie together as you will see through the different Ebonheart Provinces = all are dealing with the same Faction; and as you build your Reputation for helping "The Pact" you will find that the Leaders you meet will begin to rely on your expertise more and more until you are working your way up to helping the highest Ruler's of the land through the crisis all of the Pact Provinces are having to deal with.

The same goes if you start a character in the Aldmeri or Daggerfall Covenant = each Province has its own enemy to confront that is plaguing it; but all Alliance Main Quest Lines are a continuation of the story line for that Alliance that threads through all of their Provinces. (although each Alliance story line is completely different from the other two Alliances; so you actually have three completely different games going on at one time that you experience through having characters in the different Alliances). At some point though; the Alliance's all have to pull together to fight Molag Bal; and that is where all the Alliance Stories begin to tie together with each other.

I agree 100% with you on the Quests in this game! The Quest lines are very in depth and can be riveting. The story lines are so interesting and well done; especially when you take into account that the game is Multiplayer = it is kind of unheard of to have this much depth in a multiplayer game!


As for Vvardenfell being a different story line = yes; I don't believe it is connected to any of the Alliance story lines at all; though it does seem to lead you forward toward the "Clockwork City/Sotha Sil" story a bit with its main story line. I think the two DLC were actually made together; but they probably divided them up to sell as two separate DLC. (so you probably would want to do Morrowind/Vvardenfell before doing Clockwork City).


Lopov
QUOTE(mALX @ Oct 27 2019, 07:01 PM) *
I think you have to go back and talk to someone. When you completed that final Quest; did you see anyone in the room with a quest marker over their head? Or did anyone ask you to carry a letter for them to a Cousin in Deshaan?


I get what I did "wrong" yesterday. As soon as the last story quest finished, I teleported Shonta Quassan to his room in Ebonoheart. If we only turned around to where we were standing and made one stop down the road, we'd run into this guy that you and Acadian mentioned. I guess he spawns there once the quest concludes. But I was so exhausted and satisfied at the same time after yesterday's hours long session that I wasn't capable of any more exploring, we both went straight to bed.

QUOTE(mALX @ Oct 27 2019, 07:56 PM) *
I liked that very well too; don't like feeling pushed through a game or Quest. The Prophet always makes everything sound dire and "Come right away!!!" - but you can take it in your own time; don't feel pushed (because the quest will still be there; and you can do it later).


Yes, this seems to be a must-to-do in main quests, everything is supposedly urgent but nothing happens if you come one year later. Doing the next quest in the MQ will probably be the last thing we'll do before moving to Deshaan. I'm kinda decided now already that I'm not taking Shonta to Vvardenfell yet.

QUOTE(mALX @ Oct 27 2019, 07:56 PM) *
I agree 100% with you on the Quests in this game! The Quest lines are very in depth and can be riveting. The story lines are so interesting and well done; especially when you take into account that the game is Multiplayer = it is kind of unheard of to have this much depth in a multiplayer game!


They managed to capture the mood really well, one really feels bad or sorry for some characters in the game, or feels hatred or anger towards some enemies. I rarely get such feelings in any computer games, maybe because I grew up playing Grand Theft Auto before switching to Baldur's Gate, but in ESO I do get such feelings here and there.
treydog
Athynae continues to collect plunder skulls. And, though the contents are supposed to be "random," it appears that doing the same bosses over and over begins to yield more fish bait and fewer recipes or motifs.

Or maybe it was all luck of the draw. Anyway, she moved from Glenumbra to Stonefalls, where she got all 6 WBs, none of which she had defeated previous.

The Golden Saint at the Shivering Shrine was a pain, until a third player came in to help draw her attention so Athynae could snipe and heal.

Closing in on 100 plunder skulls, plus the "kill skeletons, while looking like one" achievement. The extra purple designs and recipes, plus motifs (Hollowjack and Dremora) are going into the Guild Bank. Anyone who needs any of those, feel free to browse for the ones you are missing.
mALX
QUOTE(Lopov @ Oct 27 2019, 04:57 PM) *

QUOTE(mALX @ Oct 27 2019, 07:01 PM) *
I think you have to go back and talk to someone. When you completed that final Quest; did you see anyone in the room with a quest marker over their head? Or did anyone ask you to carry a letter for them to a Cousin in Deshaan?


I get what I did "wrong" yesterday. As soon as the last story quest finished, I teleported Shonta Quassan to his room in Ebonoheart. If we only turned around to where we were standing and made one stop down the road, we'd run into this guy that you and Acadian mentioned. I guess he spawns there once the quest concludes. But I was so exhausted and satisfied at the same time after yesterday's hours long session that I wasn't capable of any more exploring, we both went straight to bed.

QUOTE(mALX @ Oct 27 2019, 07:56 PM) *
I liked that very well too; don't like feeling pushed through a game or Quest. The Prophet always makes everything sound dire and "Come right away!!!" - but you can take it in your own time; don't feel pushed (because the quest will still be there; and you can do it later).


Yes, this seems to be a must-to-do in main quests, everything is supposedly urgent but nothing happens if you come one year later. Doing the next quest in the MQ will probably be the last thing we'll do before moving to Deshaan. I'm kinda decided now already that I'm not taking Shonta to Vvardenfell yet.

QUOTE(mALX @ Oct 27 2019, 07:56 PM) *
I agree 100% with you on the Quests in this game! The Quest lines are very in depth and can be riveting. The story lines are so interesting and well done; especially when you take into account that the game is Multiplayer = it is kind of unheard of to have this much depth in a multiplayer game!


They managed to capture the mood really well, one really feels bad or sorry for some characters in the game, or feels hatred or anger towards some enemies. I rarely get such feelings in any computer games, maybe because I grew up playing Grand Theft Auto before switching to Baldur's Gate, but in ESO I do get such feelings here and there.


There have been a few that hit me that way too; both good feelings or sad ones (or like you said = mad). I think the some of the Quests and Quest lines they wrote for this game are wonderfully done. There are a few I didn't care much for; but they were few in comparison.








QUOTE(treydog @ Oct 27 2019, 05:05 PM) *

Athynae continues to collect plunder skulls. And, though the contents are supposed to be "random," it appears that doing the same bosses over and over begins to yield more fish bait and fewer recipes or motifs.

Or maybe it was all luck of the draw. Anyway, she moved from Glenumbra to Stonefalls, where she got all 6 WBs, none of which she had defeated previous.

The Golden Saint at the Shivering Shrine was a pain, until a third player came in to help draw her attention so Athynae could snipe and heal.

Closing in on 100 plunder skulls, plus the "kill skeletons, while looking like one" achievement. The extra purple designs and recipes, plus motifs (Hollowjack and Dremora) are going into the Guild Bank. Anyone who needs any of those, feel free to browse for the ones you are missing.


I think you are right on the better Loot for new Bosses/Dolmen/etc. They definitely give you a higher XP for doing a new Dolmen than any you have done before; plus they give you skill points for your first time going through Pledge dungeons but not later runs = so very possible they would do that with Loot during these events too.




ghastley
QUOTE(Lopov @ Oct 27 2019, 04:57 PM) *


Yes, this seems to be a must-to-do in main quests, everything is supposedly urgent but nothing happens if you come one year later. Doing the next quest in the MQ will probably be the last thing we'll do before moving to Deshaan. I'm kinda decided now already that I'm not taking Shonta to Vvardenfell yet.


When the Main Quest was written, it was intended that you'd do one of the pieces of it every five levels, so it was paced a lot differently than it is now. You would roughly do one MQ quest for each zone, and finish it about the same time you completed your Alliance. When they went to One Tamriel, and you could go anywhere, they removed the level gating, and now the MQ seems rushed - more like a single-player one. biggrin.gif

We spent a lot of today with Spreads collecting Skyshards, as she was behind the others in her crafting. And she collected our skull quota along the way, except for the dungeon one, which Laurie did. Laurie is also ding the Witches Writs, but of course we have two that need this year's new recipes, which haven't dropped yet for us. So only four completed and we need 13 for the hat.
Lopov
Some player, dressed in rags and in a skeleton form, creeped up behind Shonta Quassan today, as he walking from Kragenmoor to Davena's farm. I always play in 3rd person so I saw him immediately. He came sneaking, then he was slowly walking right behind me, making funny animations. When Shonta clapped at him, he hurried away. bigsmile.gif

We reached Lvl 30 today and invested all earned points to boosting magicka.

Tomorrow I'm off to the seaside for a few days so I won't be able to participate in the festival until the end.

Happy skull hunting!
Acadian
Lopov, how funny about your skeleton 'shadow'. 'Grats on level 30 and I hope you enjoy your days by the shore. smile.gif
RaderOfTheLostArk
Cincy continues to make me proud.

We took on some Craglorn content the past couple of days. The questline for the zone is completed now, and the solo delves are down. We took down one of the Anomaly WBs on our own (well, it would have been, but somebody jumped in towards the end and helped make the fight go more quickly). One of those celestial tears--or whatever they are called--that pour out Anka-Ra soldiers was also closed. After the soldiers were defeated, a Gargoyle boss with 1.8M popped out and was slain by Cincy's hands. I remember when I was stupid enough to take on one of those portals on my own when I first got into CP levels and was plastered. Oh, how we have come full circle.

And because we are crazy SOBs, we decided to take on Elinhir. On our own. And we WON. We bested the Blackcaster Mages and liberated Elinhir! For a group area, it was surprisingly kind of easy. We weren't really threatened with death at all, save for a couple of iffy situations.
ghastley
I almost joined you for Elinhir, but we were in the middle of our daily crafting writs, and logging in/out too fast to follow or respond to your chat. And by the time Spreads was ready to do her plunder skull/skyshard collecting, you were done.

Spreads got her Bolgrul for the day in Stonefalls - at the Inner Sea Armature - so she did a Sweeper boss (Dark Fissure*) on the way, got the delve boss, and took in Shellcracker and the nearby dolmen while she was there. The skulls gave us two Glenmoril style pages directly, one treasure map in Rivenspire, and a Witches Writ, as well as their usual Dremora pages.

The treasure map indicated an area of Rivenspire she hadn't explored, so she found a couple more wayshrines, and gathered several more skyshards on the way.

We had a short interlude with Laurie testing out whether you can fulfill a Witches Writ with provisions someone else made. You can't, and that's left her with one pending, so she can't start another. Not a big deal, as we'll just collect them to do all at one time when she can. We still don't know if it works between characters on the same account, like it would for regular writs. And I just noticed that the Pack Leader's Bone Broth needs an ingredient we won't be getting, so I'll probably abandon instead.

During the daily crafting round we got a recipe we'd been waiting for to do a bunch of Master Writs, so a backlog of those has been cleared. Did a couple of the other sealed writs from the round, too, so voucher credit is looking good.

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*Dark Fissures are the small groups of daedra dropped in an area in two waves. One of three trash mobs, and the second including a mini-boss that drops the same skulls as the Public Dungeons and roaming IC bosses give.
haute ecole rider
I've been home sick a lot lately. Fatigued, pain in all my joints, etc. So that has led to me asking my crew who wanted to do Witches Festival this year. When Phae heard of the Cat, the Hat, and the Title that rhymes with B-- she did an admirable Arnold Horshak, so she got the job. We got the Cat right away, so she took Pixel out with her and Thunderpaws. The Hat came on the second day, thanks to Julian's purchase of 12 Witches Writs for her. They then spent the weekend plunder skull collecting, solo and with friends. Pixel and Thunderpaws got along very well as they followed Phae all over Tamriel in her quest for the Title.

Julian has continued her #SlayDragonsSaveCats quest, incorporating it with Battlereeve Tanerline's daily (kill three dragons) and then hunting two more dragons. Blanco is incredibly fit with all the running around he's been doing over Northern Elsweyr's rough terrain. The dragons themselves are remarkably well done, better than Skyrim's, IMHO. Even the black ones are, well, black. Since coming to Northern Elsweyr, Julian has left her cats at home, and instead has adopted Karamel Korn, who has a somewhat startling habit of "popping" at the most (in)opportune times. He is so adorable.
mALX
QUOTE(Lopov @ Oct 28 2019, 04:39 PM) *

Some player, dressed in rags and in a skeleton form, creeped up behind Shonta Quassan today, as he walking from Kragenmoor to Davena's farm. I always play in 3rd person so I saw him immediately. He came sneaking, then he was slowly walking right behind me, making funny animations. When Shonta clapped at him, he hurried away. bigsmile.gif

We reached Lvl 30 today and invested all earned points to boosting magicka.

Tomorrow I'm off to the seaside for a few days so I won't be able to participate in the festival until the end.

Happy skull hunting!



Ooh, that sounds Awesome! Have Fun!





QUOTE(RaderOfTheLostArk @ Oct 29 2019, 07:21 AM) *

Cincy continues to make me proud.

We took on some Craglorn content the past couple of days. The questline for the zone is completed now, and the solo delves are down. We took down one of the Anomaly WBs on our own (well, it would have been, but somebody jumped in towards the end and helped make the fight go more quickly). One of those celestial tears--or whatever they are called--that pour out Anka-Ra soldiers was also closed. After the soldiers were defeated, a Gargoyle boss with 1.8M popped out and was slain by Cincy's hands. I remember when I was stupid enough to take on one of those portals on my own when I first got into CP levels and was plastered. Oh, how we have come full circle.

And because we are crazy SOBs, we decided to take on Elinhir. On our own. And we WON. We bested the Blackcaster Mages and liberated Elinhir! For a group area, it was surprisingly kind of easy. We weren't really threatened with death at all, save for a couple of iffy situations.



Holy Cow, that is amazing! You really have come full circle!!!






QUOTE(haute ecole rider @ Oct 29 2019, 04:49 PM) *

I've been home sick a lot lately. Fatigued, pain in all my joints, etc. So that has led to me asking my crew who wanted to do Witches Festival this year. When Phae heard of the Cat, the Hat, and the Title that rhymes with B-- she did an admirable Arnold Horshak, so she got the job. We got the Cat right away, so she took Pixel out with her and Thunderpaws. The Hat came on the second day, thanks to Julian's purchase of 12 Witches Writs for her. They then spent the weekend plunder skull collecting, solo and with friends. Pixel and Thunderpaws got along very well as they followed Phae all over Tamriel in her quest for the Title.

Julian has continued her #SlayDragonsSaveCats quest, incorporating it with Battlereeve Tanerline's daily (kill three dragons) and then hunting two more dragons. Blanco is incredibly fit with all the running around he's been doing over Northern Elsweyr's rough terrain. The dragons themselves are remarkably well done, better than Skyrim's, IMHO. Even the black ones are, well, black. Since coming to Northern Elsweyr, Julian has left her cats at home, and instead has adopted Karamel Korn, who has a somewhat startling habit of "popping" at the most (in)opportune times. He is so adorable.


Aw Haute, I'm so sorry you aren't feeling well and in pain! I've been wondering where you have been! verysad.gif




ghastley
Laurie abandoned the Witches Writ for Pack Leader's Bone Broth that was holding her up, and looked at the first one in her collection to see if she could do that instead. It was the same one.

But she did do three others, so we're half-way to the hat, and they've extended the event, so even the title may be possible.

We of course have multiple copies of the Dremora pages from the delves, dolmens, public dungeons, and world bosses that you can do solo, or rather without queuing for them. Those WB's still need some help! No pages from the arenas, either, as they're too time-consuming, dropping the skulls only from the final boss. The Guild bank suggests "I've heard others say the same".

The Glenmoril clothing set is now complete, and we have most, if not all, the weapon styles too. No tickets spent, but we'll have to do that very soon, and it looks like writs will be the only choice left.

And the "make Blossom a Lady" fund is now standing at 3.6 million, so that's very close. I'll have to do that trade with mALX for the tempers. smile.gif
TheCheshireKhajiit
QUOTE(ghastley @ Oct 31 2019, 08:31 AM) *

Laurie abandoned the Witches Writ for Pack Leader's Bone Broth that was holding her up, and looked at the first one in her collection to see if she could do that instead. It was the same one.

But she did do three others, so we're half-way to the hat, and they've extended the event, so even the title may be possible.

We of course have multiple copies of the Dremora pages from the delves, dolmens, public dungeons, and world bosses that you can do solo, or rather without queuing for them. Those WB's still need some help! No pages from the arenas, either, as they're too time-consuming, dropping the skulls only from the final boss. The Guild bank suggests "I've heard others say the same".

The Glenmoril clothing set is now complete, and we have most, if not all, the weapon styles too. No tickets spent, but we'll have to do that very soon, and it looks like writs will be the only choice left.

And the "make Blossom a Lady" fund is now standing at 3.6 million, so that's very close. I'll have to do that trade with mALX for the tempers. smile.gif

Yeah Brenna is only able to get World Bosses, Delves, Dolmens, and public dungeons so that leaves arenas, trials, and group dungeons that we can’t get Dremora Plunder Skulls for.
Acadian
I expect Laurie should be able to get the hat no problem. Grits wisely pointed out that you can buy Witchie Writs from the Empressario for 1 tix each so that is a comforting backup.

Buffy got her hat yesterday and got her animated skeleton momento today. For those who don't have it yet, it is kind of cute. You activate the momento and your character summons a small skellie who briefly dances a jig for you.
mALX
QUOTE(ghastley @ Oct 31 2019, 09:31 AM) *

Laurie abandoned the Witches Writ for Pack Leader's Bone Broth that was holding her up, and looked at the first one in her collection to see if she could do that instead. It was the same one.

But she did do three others, so we're half-way to the hat, and they've extended the event, so even the title may be possible.

We of course have multiple copies of the Dremora pages from the delves, dolmens, public dungeons, and world bosses that you can do solo, or rather without queuing for them. Those WB's still need some help! No pages from the arenas, either, as they're too time-consuming, dropping the skulls only from the final boss. The Guild bank suggests "I've heard others say the same".

The Glenmoril clothing set is now complete, and we have most, if not all, the weapon styles too. No tickets spent, but we'll have to do that very soon, and it looks like writs will be the only choice left.

And the "make Blossom a Lady" fund is now standing at 3.6 million, so that's very close. I'll have to do that trade with mALX for the tempers. smile.gif


Ready to trade and in need of the tempers, lol.






QUOTE(Acadian @ Oct 31 2019, 12:32 PM) *

I expect Laurie should be able to get the hat no problem. Grits wisely pointed out that you can buy Witchie Writs from the Empressario for 1 tix each so that is a comforting backup.

Buffy got her hat yesterday and got her animated skeleton momento today. For those who don't have it yet, it is kind of cute. You activate the momento and your character summons a small skellie who briefly dances a jig for you.



Pia did her 100 Plunder Skulls Achievement last night in that delve with the three bosses spawning in the same spot (so multiple Plunder Skulls each time they spawned) = all those Plunder Skulls raked in and she didn't get one single Witches Writ from it all! Grrrrr! Anyway; the girl I was playing with and another girl there both already had their Witches Hats; they are ADORABLE !!!!



Acadian
Remember, the Witch Writs only come from gold skulls.
mALX
QUOTE(Acadian @ Oct 31 2019, 12:43 PM) *

Remember, the Witch Writs only come from gold skulls.


AHA!!! So that is why I didn't get any! Thanks Acadian!!!








TheCheshireKhajiit
Brenna can hardly wait for her witch hat!
ghastley
We got the witch hat, Blossom's a proper Lady, and Cat Man Dhou has reached top rank in enchanting at last.

He went fishing to relax from that. tongue.gif

Meanwhile I spent the whole morning stabbing a woman in the back for the Skyrim mod.
treydog
Athynae finished her 3rd public dungeon- Forgotten Crypts in Deshaan. She forgot to go for the "Emaciated 80's model look" before starting, so did not add more "kill (how do you "kill" undead?) skeletons while looking like one" points. However, she is closing in on 100 skulls and got Trey more writs to finish toward the hat. Just need 2 more.

She also bumped off several more WBs, cleared more delves, and collected shards. Somehow, the way this event focuses on doing the bosses makes it more enjoyable than just random running about. The number of people to "help" with the public dungeon, WBs, and dolmeni also makes it so much easier to rack up lots of those.
Acadian
Athynae's skellie hunting in bones & rags inspired Buffy. The little elf went to the Corpse Garden (delve in NE Deeshan) which sports lots of skellies and nothing but skellies. There, she held her nose, drank the brew and opened up a can of bone breaking righteous light upon the inhabitants. The density of skellies and quick respawn rate took her from 0/100 to 100/100 in only about 15 minutes. She then disabled the bones & rags look and whistled smugly as she headed for her next adventure. tongue.gif
RaderOfTheLostArk
Some more accomplishments by Cincy to report in the past few days, including but not limited to:

-Defeating the Rahni'za School of Warriors point of interest in Craglorn on Cincy's own
-First deathmatch win in Battlegrounds
-Just finished the Imperial City storyline earlier today
-Also earlier today, Cincy defeated an Imperial Sewers World Boss that had wrecked him a while ago, Secundus the Despoiler. We were actually trying to evade him by taking a route underneath him, but somehow our tussle with a couple of wraiths under the grates alerted him to our presence. Thus, we had to fight him when we came out of that route, and we came out victorious!

I feel like there was another thing or two I wanted to say that I forgot, but I have a wholesome gaming moment to share.

Last night, I attempted that IC quest again for the Arena district where you have to fight all the Daedra in the arena. While in the middle of the second boss fight, a CP810 Dominion player, a shirtless Khajiit, entered the Arena at the same time. I was getting ready to get ganked yet again, but I soon realized he had no interest in fighting me (and it wasn't like he couldn't eviscerate me, because he most certainly would've). The dude helped me in defeating that BS arena! He took most of the spawned Flame Atronachs and a little bit of the final boss attacks. Once we defeated them, we celebrated and I typed in chat "Thanks for not attacking me." We both clapped and went our separate ways. I was still half-expecting him to attack me after beating the arena, but he went along his merry way.

I wish I had caught his name, but he was one cool cat (ba-dum-tss). I did get a screenshot, though.

Game recognizes game
Lopov
Shonta Quassan has been helping various people all over Stonefalls. He lifted a curse upon the Sathram Plantation, defeated the rogue Ashkhan, secured the Heimlyn Keep, learned the history behind Brothers of Strife, ...

Soon he will heed the call of the Prophet and visit him again, afterwards it will be time for the Argonian to travel south, to Deshaan.

ghastley
The extension to the event meant that we have more tickets, so spent them on writs. Laurie did them all and now has the "Witch" title sorted, meaning that Witches Writs just lost any meaning. The style pages dropping are all duplicates, and the Guild Bank is rapidly filling because they don't stack.

Cat Man Dhou has gone fishing again, and is amazed at how many gar and paddlefish he can catch without getting the other two lake fish. On the other hand, the perfect roe is rolling in steadily. smile.gif We're fishing in Bangkorai because we have the two houses to port to, and his plan is to fish out one zone at a time before moving on.

Spreads is steadily raising her ranks in Smithing and Clothier by gathering skyshards. That's quite a few plunder skulls from delves, but they never seem to have anything interesting. Taminwe is doing some, too, as she needs some Woodworking ranks, and a couple of the others are completing Enchanting. Spreads is tantalizingly close to level 50 in Jewel Crafting, too. The others have orders to do their dailies for the Intricate returns.

And then I have to decide who gets the next run at JC. Laurie, Blossom and Bo are already at top rank, Unna is at rank 2, but has so many skyshards found already that she might have problems finding more. Cat Man Dhou is spending all his spare time fishing, and everyone else needs to finish off their other crafts first.

Most need to get back to leveling Undaunted. They've stopped after the active skill they wanted, but need to resume for the passives, and we could use some more shoulders, so it might have to be pugging the pledges.
mALX
QUOTE(Acadian @ Nov 3 2019, 04:54 PM) *

Athynae's skellie hunting in bones & rags inspired Buffy. The little elf went to the Corpse Garden (delve in NE Deeshan) which sports lots of skellies and nothing but skellies. There, she held her nose, drank the brew and opened up a can of bone breaking righteous light upon the inhabitants. The density of skellies and quick respawn rate took her from 0/100 to 100/100 in only about 15 minutes. She then disabled the bones & rags look and whistled smugly as she headed for her next adventure. tongue.gif


That sounds like where I need to go with Pia.

Misa is only a couple Witchie Writs away from the Witch Title; but everyone I know seems to think Zenimax should be spelling my Title with a "B" instead! rollinglaugh.gif (there was a unanimous vote taken and agreed to on that, urgh)

*...mALX searches fruitlessly for innocent looking emoticon...*

I finally broke down and bought a new keyboard; got it home and installed it; then found out that the maker (Microsoft) for some reason split the keyboard in two and raised it up to a peak in the center split so the keys on each side lay at a slant = VERY inconvenient; and is going to take A LOT of getting used to.

Not just that; but the keys are not lit, either. I couldn't read the small print on the box; and did try to figure out if they lit up or not; but never was able to determine yes or no and the saleswoman said she thought all keyboards lit up these days. So I bought it and brought it home = not lit. Urgh.

Anyway; it works; and my old Razer that used to be perfect didn't. verysad.gif




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