I am getting tired of playing a melee character, so instead of jumping into Skyrim and playing a melee character again, I am going to stick with FO3 and play my sniper idea. And do the main quest with this one. After a while I just get tired of any single character, and I need a change.



Skyrim is far more modded than Fallout 3 for me. I have been playing FO3 longer, but Skyrim has a much larger modding community, so far more mods to choose from. The vast majority of mods I use in Fallout 3 are ones I created myself.

In the end I did the Vault 87 run naked with Molly as well. The armor was slowing her down, and she could still get her Rad Resistance up to 85% without it. Still that was close!

Wow, a naked run for both of you! If this was two years ago, I'd most def try that, lol. With my left hand not functioning, I can't even do the run anymore Oh well, I'll always have the memories of the glory days,

I have never grown tired of having a melee character in TES, but I do in Fallout games - maybe because the gun is available and can end some battles before they begin.

But characters I don't ever grow tired of; especially if they are good for roleplay. I RP'd Maxical from 2005 through to her death two years ago, and would still RP her if I could resurrect her. She went from short stints in Arena and Daggerfall through Morrowind/Cyrodiil/Skyrim/the Wasteland/the Mojave and was a ball through them all.

I've had Misa for 6 months now, she's gone through Morrowind/Skyrim/and now the Wasteland - really thinking of keeping her on in one capacity or another even if I am ever able to resurrect Maxical.

Almost had Maxical back last fall; I found her files on the laptop when it came back from the shop and nearly cried. Hell, I did cry. When the laptop crashed this past January I may have lost them again - have not been able to find them on the salvaged files yet; but haven't had a lot of time to play anyway since then.

Alessia - most def did get tired of playing her, never really got into her as a character or enjoyed playing with her much at all - I started her right after I lost Maxical, and just wanted any character to play the game with. Never got to like her, so had trouble RP'ing with her.

Today I created Hecate. She is a sniper/doctor/scientist. Just like mom and pop I suppose! I have had a lot of fun with her so far. I even followed mALX's suggestions about raiding the safe behind the revelations passage, twice. So she left the vault with a rank 2 Rock-It Launcher schematic.

Hecate found a sniper rifle south of Megaton, and has been exploring the local neighborhood while looking for dad. Today she cleared out Springfield, and then later the Bethesda Ruins. She is working her way toward Minefield for Moira, but those places got in the way. Maybe her next trip she will actually finally get all the way out there and get those mines.

Today I created Hecate. She is a sniper/doctor/scientist. Just like mom and pop I suppose! I have had a lot of fun with her so far. I even followed mALX's suggestions about raiding the safe behind the revelations passage, twice. So she left the vault with a rank 2 Rock-It Launcher schematic.

Hecate found a sniper rifle south of Megaton, and has been exploring the local neighborhood while looking for dad. Today she cleared out Springfield, and then later the Bethesda Ruins. She is working her way toward Minefield for Moira, but those places got in the way. Maybe her next trip she will actually finally get all the way out there and get those mines.

When she first walked up to Megaton I heard shouting. I turned around, and found a Raider was attacking! Even the water beggar was running around with his fists out. But between Hecate, Deputy Weld, and that guy on the balcony, the Raider didn't stand a chance. Like most of my characters she disabled the atom bomb without really thinking about it.

Thanks to that my first trip to the Super Duper Mart wound up with Hecate being ambushed by not one, but two Talon Company patrols. The upshot is that now Hecate has some nifty black combat armor to wear. I have a mod that adds a set of Talon Armor without the logo - basically just black combat armor. So I turned that on afterward and picked it up, to RP Hecate washing off the talon insignia.

Hecate is busy! Has she tried the Rock-it Launcher yet?

I want to finish this game and then try some face mods if there are any for Fallout 3. Black Misa looks okay from the side, but a full frontal shot is not great; kind of looks like she got punched in the face, lol. The temp Misa I made to test out the rock-it launcher looks better, but I really don't want to change now and miss out on the end game and BOS DLC. So Black Misa is taking this thing to the end.

She is doing Oasis tonight.

No. I would never do something like that. Ben would be too scared that Molly would appear out of the darkness with that hatchet of hers. I've seen what she does to evil people. It would be worse than Friday the 13th

Ben has just switched the radio frequency to Agatha's station, just to make it feel right. However 3 Dog is a mixed bag for me. Sometimes I like him, other times he annoys me. I just wish that he would get the announcements right- first he calls me the worst evil the wasteland has seen and then he praises me, despite me only helping people for my own interests. Has nobody got word back to him yet?

And it is only when I play NV and suffer through the horrible music and DJ's there that I realize how good the music feel of Fallout 3 is. NV got many things right, the music was not one of them.

Hecate has not tried the Rock-It Launcher. I don't think she ever will. She's a sniper, so long range, one shot, one kill is her creed. But I couldn't help but to get those schematics anyway!

There are a few face texture mods for FO3, but not nearly as many as for Skyrim or Oblivion. I am using one that improves the female textures. But I am not sure what the name of it is! I don't have the zip file I downloaded for it, but I do have the loose files in my FO3 directory. I tried looking through the Nexus, but I haven't found the same ones yet. They are only 4.7 mb, so I could email them to you.


Molly does have a habit of putting her hatchet to use on evil folks! I am sure she's not the hero the Wasteland wants, but she might be the one it needs...

I know what you mean about 3-Dog. It is because of how the Karma system is screwed up for some quests. If you help the ghouls slaughter everyone in Tenpenny Tower you get good karma? But if you kill the ghouls before then you get evil karma? WTF?

btw. I love the new forum icon.

And I´m about to go down the Mirelurk Nesting Grounds in D.C with a can of whopping!

Oh no, Yoda is in the Capital Wasteland!

How did you find this??

Anyway, wasn´t that much Mirelurks down there. A little disappointing but a fun dungeon dive nonetheless Found some goodies, I did! Stash them in my home, I will!

I found a mod that is supposed to prevent the Enclave troopers from spawning before you go the Purifier with Dad. I am going to try it out now, so I will see how it works.

Exactly! I remember reading a comment at Beth forums about this a few months ago. He went into great detail why the whole ghoul quest was the worst quest ever written in any computer game. I did have to agree.


Cheers!





Hey Mirocu, just a question off topic I was thinking about while I should have been working today- After 2100 hours with Lothran, what level have you got on mercantile. I have never hit 100 on that skill and wondered what score in could possibly be after 2000+ hours?

Ben is now in his last 10 hours before semi-retirement and is having fun with the end of Broken Steel. Without wanting to ruin it for you guys I need to ask- Have you Rosa or Mirocu finished it with a past character?

Actually I have adjusted his Mercantile skill with the console. I pushed it down since I didn´t like being able to sell anything to anyone or investing. And I did this adjustment after having spent hours selling arrows one at a time to get it up!


Past... character..? Is that a mod or something?

But seriously , the only DLC I´ve played is Point Lookout and I didn´t even to the MQ there. I´d like my brain intact, please

Damn it! I wanted to know how long that bloody skill takes to hit 100. Somebody must have done it.

Thanks anyway!

I'll post how long it took me in, like, 2026.

Almost finished with all the b.s.? About time!

I did finish Broken Steel with The AntAgonizer. It was fun, and suitably epic. I loved riding in the vertibird with the Lyon's Pride. I even did the little side quests with the Aqua Pura.

He called me scum the other day for killing those ghouls in the Warrington Station; but then went back to praising me for saving Grayditch - which was done way at the beginning of this game, lol.

Really kills me that they give you bad karma for killing the ghouls; and 3 Dog talks bad about you publicly for it - but if you do that quest any other way the ghouls take over and kill all the other residents. You are supposedly good for siding with the ghouls against the residents, (and letting all the residents get murdered by your decision); but you are considered evil if you side with the people and save their life - that makes no sense to me.

The way Bethesda did that quest makes no sense whatsoever to me; so I just do what is best for me in it, regardless what 3 Dog says about me for it. And now that I've found a way to have a home there and at Megaton, really glad I did. Did not want to live in a placed with dead bodies in the basement and surrounded by the ghouls that put them there.


** That music in NV is actually right on for that area of the US back in the day; just like the music in Fallout 3 was correct for back in the day for the DC area - but it is all some kind of time warp thing, because the music and clothes are from @ the 50's, but the setting of the game says it is in the future from our present day - kind of like an alternate reality of our own world.

Whoever thought that up was brilliant; because we can see these things/hear these songs in our own history before the game came out; so it all rings true.

I usually just never do that quest one way or another, because of how backwards it is. Sure, the Tenpenny Tower residents are racists who hate ghouls, but that hardly justifies killing them all. If you had been able to talk them into letting ghouls in, and then it ended there with no one being murdered, it would have been a great quest. Hmmm, maybe that could be fixed by modding the quest?





I am not a huge fan of the 50s music either, but as you said, it fits the setting to a tee in both games. I do especially love how FO3 used "I Don't Want To Set The World On Fire" in it opening titles. I have thought about replacing the songs with other music in FO3, but could never bring myself to actually do it. It just would not feel right, even if was songs I liked better.

That alternate future you mention is one of the neat things about the Fallout Universe. It is like the world never evolved past the 50s, even though in reality over a hundred years went by between then and the Great War. Everything is big, nuclear energy is everwhere, it is like a visionary's idea of what the future would be like, if that visionary lived in 1950. There is a neat (and chock of of info) article about it on the Fallout Wikia.

That would be great - Oh! I had to get a new email address when we changed over from Comcast last September, and forgot to tell a bunch of people. If I haven't given you a new email since last September, then the one you have for me won't work anymore; I'll PM you my new one. (And hope like heck you haven't emailed me since it was changed; a lot of people did and got upset when I didn't answer).

Oh, I agree 100% on that karma being really screwed up on that quest, they give you goodkarma for killing Gustavo and Tenpenny (!); and bad karma for killing the ghouls threatening and harassing them! What sense does that make?

Then you get good karma for running residents out of their own homes they paid for and helping ghouls slaughter the rest; and even after the ghouls have killed the residents, if you kill them for it you still receive bad karma! - that is pretty messed up.

Ever since the first time I tried to do a peaceful mediation and found the ghouls had killed all the residents and taken over the building, was not ever going to go that way again. I've been killing the ghouls every time since then; and if I don't like taking the karma hit I'll just donate to the Rivet City church to get my karma back up.

Also, does anyone know if 3 Dog ever brings up the ghouls killing the residents if the Player goes with the peaceful negotiation? I might be remembering wrong; but I thought he blamed the Player for the people being killed. (so it was an issue where you couldn't win for losing no matter how you did that quest).


** Oh, and on the Rock-it Launcher - yeah, I mean you can't carry all that junk as ammo with you, it weighs too much. If you happen to be in the place where the Burnmaster is, they load you up with enough junk to make a couple Rock-it-launchers and have a bunch of junk leftover - so you can test it out, but it is up against feral ghouls, which give me the creeps - and not sure how you pick the ammo, don't want it wasting some of my junk I collect like teddy bears or Nuka Cola trucks, etc. So I've actually never shot it either.

I don't think 3 Dog ever says anything bad if the player takes the ghoul side in the Tenpenny quest. I guess he thinks genocide is fine, so long as the victims hate ghouls...

I just took a look on the Nexus, and there are several mods that semi-fix the quest so that the humans don't all get slaughtered. But it looks like in all of them the human merchants all leave the tower, which I don't really want.

I only had three spawns before going to the purifier with Mac Daddy James; only 1-2 troopers in each; but I was really glad to get them because they introduced some great power armor and weapons early on when I didn't have much to work with. Anchorage gave me the Power Armor training perk; so was able to wear it.

They didn't spawn the Deathclaws though, which was good because I couldn't have handled it back then.

Here is a weird thing that happened to me in this game - I've never seen before, but then again I never had the animal perk before. I've got rank two of the animal perk this game - first time ever taking that perk in any rank.

Misa has been hunting the Enclave grid by grid going to all their camps and slaughtering them. The ones with modified (or feral) deathclaws in cages - she has been sneaking in (in chameleon) and releasing the Deathclaws first; then staying hidden in a relatively safe spot.

Well, when she releases the deathclaw, it immediately kills all the Enclave first, but then it attacks Misa! Is it supposed to with that animal perk? Either way, it is a lot of fun and the Deathclaw is usually in low enough health by the time it attacks her that she can take it down.

I like to blow the helicopters out of the sky when they are bringing troops in, and this game I've caught all but one helicopter of the ones that showed up. (The helicopter at the Scrapyard didn't show up this time, I'm not sure if it is because I haven't done the Dogmeat quest yet).

I learned not to try it with the missile launcher like the game Wiki suggests; was never able to get more than two down using it or the Fatman - I brought them all down with Blackhawk; which is much more accurate (for some reason) and does a perfect job of igniting an explosion no matter where the bullet hits.










Gaaaah! You don't want to know if I did?


Well, I did finish it in the past, with Wasteland Maxical, lol.

The Animal Friend perk doesn't affect all the animals in the game. I think Deathclaws are one of the kinds that it doesn't change.

However, even without the perk, there is one Deathclaw near the end of Raven Rock that you can let out of its cage, and it will rampage and kill all the Enclavians around. But it doesn't go hostile toward you.

You'd better PM me your new email. I don't think I have it.

There is no set time to raise skills in Oblivion. It depends on what you do to raise it. Like Mirocu did, I used to raise mine by selling arrows one at a time; just to get it up high enough that I could invest in stores so the merchants would have more money to deal with. Then I cut way back and sold in clumps so the skill wouldn't raise too much after that.

In Oblivion, the skills are raised by usage; so the more items you sell to a merchant, the quicker your skill level will raise. The first 25 level increases come easy, like for every 10-25 items your skill goes up. Just like any other skill in Oblivion, the higher your skill level is, the more usages it takes to bring it up. So if you are dedicated to bringing it up to 100, you have to grab as many arrows as you can find and sell them one at a time (because arrows don't weigh much and you can carry a bunch, plus they are found almost everywhere).

Ok, I tried whipping up a little mod that marks Roy Phillips as evil (so you don't get bad karma for killing him). It also should disable Three-Dog's comments on the radio for killing him. But I have to test it of course.

Oh what a great link! I've never seen that before, and it has background on all the DLC too! I can't read it all in one sitting, but bookmarked it so I can keep going back to read it, thank you for the link!








No, I agree - they paid for their homes, and should be able to stay in them comfortably; and why should the long term established merchants all have to leave to make room for ghoul merchants?

My idea for a solution was for someone to make a replica of the Tenpenny towers (not to be confused with the Twin Towers) and call the second one "Ghoul Hilton" - then alter the quest so Tenpenny agrees to house ghouls in the abandoned other tower if they want to fix it up (and pay, of course).

That way no one is killed; the ghouls move in and take up residence in the previously abandoned tower; then the Player can buy from both the human tower merchants and the ghoul merchants - and the player gets good karma for the negotiation; the people and ghouls all live.

I have numerous times considered removing any negative dialogue about the Player 3 Dog may have to say regarding this quest because it is screwed up from the word go on how it was done.

Just a side note. I fixed Grayditch but 3Dog still says it´s aaaall quiet. I know it´s a glitch of some sort, kinda like in Oblivion where they stop commenting on certain skills after some of them reach 100

*click*

Pip Boy recording app ON. Date: 09/14/77 8:47

My name is Cho Zen-Wahn. I am one of the outcasted members of Vault 101, and today, I start my special journal. I have modified my Pip Boy, with what was once called an 'app'.
People long ago had apps right on their communicating devices, which were either known as cell phones or smart phones. Break.

Anyways, these words are recorded as I am speaking them, and saved to my Pip Boy's modified hard-drive. Later, I will upload them onto a special recording computer, which will be stored as data, for somebody to read someday. Break.

As an outcast of Vault 101, I must thrive to survive. Tough world out here. Lot of people want to take me down. But I must press on. I must find where my father went. For he is all that matters. I can't go back to Vault 101. I just can't. They won't even open their doors for me, and good thing, because last time I saw them, those [censored] were all shooting at me. Break.

An evil man in a town called Megaton, which happens to be very close to 101, claims to know where my father is. But he wants money. Lots of money. And I don't have any [censored] money. So I am doing some quote / unquote research for somebody else in Megaton. Her name's Moira. Kinda cute, but not my type. Moira wants me to ---- ahhh [censored].

unidentifiable sounds ... recording app unable to decipher ... 10 seconds .... 20 seconds...

[censored] just got attacked! [censored]! [censored] raiders holed up at Springvale Elementary! Caught me off guard! They see a man wearing the colors of Vault 101, and they started taking shots! .. I blew the leg off of one, damn right I did. Other guy is is ... still shooting at me, but from a distance! Hold on.

unidentifible sounds ... recording app unable to decipher .... 10 seconds ...20 seconds ... 30 seconds....

Ahh, that one .. I will let him live. Too far away. Can't take him out with my rifle. Too far. Break.
`

Anyway. I am assisting this rather pugnacious lady. Moira Brown, she calls herself. She wants me to look for some mirelurk lair, and put this stupid device in ... where they spawn. Probably won't even [censored] work, but hell, she's paying me caps.

Pip Boy recording app off. 9/14/77 15:56

*click*

A recording app, eh? Isn´t that nifty?

WOO HOO! Great idea!







Once you take Bryan to Rivet City, there is no one left in town (unless you take advantage of one of those three abandoned houses and move in!) - so I'd say it IS real quiet!

But I agree, once 3 Dog announces how you saved little Bryan and found him a new home in Rivet City - He really shouldn't be repeating the old stuff. Like after you kill the behemoth and meet him, why does he keep repeating that he heard someone else crawled out of the vault - did someone fart: That has been cleared up once he meets you, so he should stop cycling that old news.

That said, if he could only talk about current stuff, then I guess he'd still be dis'ing me for being a ghoul hater!





@ Renee - Yeah, another person going through FO3 with us! Woo Hoo !!!!

Cho has Apps!

Hecate has been busy filling the underworld with new residents (no not that Underworld in the D.C. Ruins, the other underworld... ). Yesterday she agreed to help Moira study Mirelurks. But on the way to the Anchorage Memorial she was accosted by a kid whose town had been attacked by Those. And well, the next thing Hecate knew she was shooting ants. Lots and lots of ants. But when it was all said an done the ants were no more, and Hecate was the proud recipient of a perception boosting mutation.

But Hecate couldn't leave the kid there all alone afterward. She had to find a home for him. She she headed off to find Rivet City. Naturally one thing led to another, and along the way she found Arlington. One Luck bobblehead later, and she was slugging it out with the Red Chinese army in Mama Dolce's. Hecate won the war all over again for Uncle Sam, and left with a Chinese uniform to put on her desk back home as a trophy.

She eventually did make it to the memorial, and was able to plant Moira's spy camera with no problems. Working her way down the Potomac from there, she finally reached Rivet City, but only after numerous fire fights with raiders and mutants. Now she is off to find the kid's aunt Vera.

Aw, now I'm wanting to go do Mama Dolce's - haven't cleared that place in years, what a fun fight that is!

Wow no way, we're doing the same mirelurk quest? What are the odds.

Mama Dolce's is pretty fun. Marge was there once. I am really getting addicted to Fallout 3 all over again.


"There's an app for that" as the saying goes.

Thanks for pointing that out I struggle to remember the days when different music influenced different areas. The world today is just so connected now. Look at us! Sometimes we (Australia) even get games coming out before the US due to America being soooo far behind on the date calendar! Sometimes I swear it feels like Jan 3 when I see the Times Square New Year celebration on tv. Lol.


Ha! I already knew that the question would not apply to you! Very few wrote and gamed with more passion than you over the last five years (well maybe Rosa, of course). So a little question like 'have you finished Broken Steel' will never be for you.

Speaking of that Ben is happily causing chaos through it right now. The A3-21 and the Missile Launcher are so hot in his hands that he thought he might have to drop them. Lol. I really love the 'new' ending to FO3, it is much better than the first attempt in 2008. He has just left the underground area and entering the base.

Wasteland Maxical. What did she end up looking like? Did she have Maxical's personality? Hand grenades in other people's trousers must have got her kicked out of Megaton, no?

Renee, great to read the app about your character. Very neat.

It makes me wonder why Beth didn't use the Ham radios more in the game. It would have been really cool to catch emergency broadcasts from near and far across the wastelands.

I think the Ham radios and the parking meters mean something. Like if you turn them all on something will happen!

They should have teased us like in Borderlands. Perhaps a huge vault full of caps (or teddy bears or garden gnomes) could have been our reward for switching on every radio and parking meter.

I hope Wasteland Maxical had better aim than Cyrodiil Maxical!


I agree! It would have been a great way to start off a quest, like Big Town. Though then again, they did do that once, with the return to Vault 101 quest. But you have to do the main quest to even get that.

Could there be some sort of ham radio mod?


I have heard something about the end of the MQ in FO3. Is it true that the game just 'ends' when we beat finish the main quest?

In the vanilla game your character dies, and the game does end. There was a huge uproar from fans, so Bethesda fixed it with the Broken Steel dlc. It revives your character (you didn't die after all, just passed out for two weeks), and lets you play indefinitely.

So what did Obsidian do when they made Fallout New Vegas after all that? They didn't kill the main character after the main quest, but they still end the game and don't let you play any further. You have to start a new game with new character to continue playing. *This is why we need a facepalm smiley on this forum*

This struck me when I wrote that, because now if you go to the Mojave the music is no different than it is anywhere else; but there was a time when music marked a region clearly and recognizably. I found these on youtube, the south (where I live now) and out west/Mojave:


Southern:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNBc4snTaqc



Western:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qcO19R8Jys



Actually, where I live now still plays some Bluegrass; and a lot of Country-Western music; but with a much more modern sound and a bent toward trying to crossover. I don't know if Western Swing still exists as a strong local flavor out there; but you can hear the roots of the songs from NV in these sounds.




The drainage ditches all have ham radios that you can turn off; they are originally on so you can triangulate them. Like Mirocu, I'm always wondering if I touch them anywhere I find them that something will happen, lol.

Wasteland Maxical was no prankster, although a few frag grenades found their way into pants it was always people like Roy Phillips that deserved it (in her mind). She was still plenty uncoordinated, though; and not the brightest bulb in the Wasteland or Mojave. A little too naive and trusting, but a staunchly loyal friend - those sides of her never changed.






Actually, it was - seems she is better with a gun than a bow, lol.



The Reilly's Rangers quest, Anchorage, Vault 101, Mothership Zeta - can't remember them all, but there are more - all start with picking up a radio signal.

I like that way of starting a quest too, but there should be some way to triangulate it to find the quest like you can with the drainage ditch radio signal. The one for Anchorage was blasted loud and clear no matter where you were in the Wasteland, and it didn't get stronger or weaker by your movements so there was no way to really track it down except by clicking on that quest and following your arrows - which are totally screwed up and useless after Point Lookout.







It used to, your Player character died; but Broken Steel brings the Player back to life.




YES! That was a real, "What were you thinking?" moment!

We desperately need a facepalm smiley, SubRosa. I've said that before. You can just do this ---> XD <---to simulate a facepalm.

Wow, the character died at the end of FO3? That's actually kinda neat. Certainly original, afaik.

For the most part Hecate has been doing Moira's quests these last few days. In the one that took her to Rivet City, she stopped by the Science Lab and talked to Dr. Li (and picked up the Intelligence bobblehead). Since Dr. Li has seen Dad and said he had gone to the Jeff Memorial, Hecate went there afterward and cleared out all the muties. Dad's tapes said he was off looking for Dr. Braun somewhere in the west. This is all without talking to Moriarity in Megaton, or with Three Dog at GNR.

So just a little while ago Hecate is in the DC Ruins and comes to Chevy Chase for the first time. You know, where always meet Sarah Lyons? Well she and the Lyon's Pride were nowhere to be found. Instead Hecate took on all the mutants on her own. Even when she got to GNR there was no sign of Lyons. The behemoth did show up, and he was lot tougher, since that dead BOSer with the Fat Man was not there (I guess he must spawn with Lyons).

When Hecate went to talk to Three Dog, he didn't try to hold Dad's location over her to get Hecate to get the dish. Instead he bargained with the location of a secret pre-war cache (Hamilton's Hideaway). That was interesting, I never had it happen that way. I had never been to the Jeff Memorial before talking to Three-Dog, so obviously his dialogue is dependent upon the status of the quests. I wonder if Sarah Lyons wasn't there because I had been to the Jeff as well, and had advanced Scientific Pursuits (the quest to search for Dad)?

Thanks for the links mALX. Wow, Porter Wagoner, that is some trippy stuff. I have never seen that before. But trippy in a good way. I like!




Ahh, good to see that some things will always be a part of this world. And I guess that VATS did help that.....slight....aiming problem we saw in Cyrodiil.




Yes, it probably does happen like that. I have never hit Chevy Chase without letting the MQ lead me there. I must try that one day. I did do the Hamilton quest line one time. It was cool that 3Dog opens up different dialogue depending where you are and who you are (sometimes with a speech check).

Ben is raiding the Air base now. I had a funny moment happen before. Ben was shooting at one of those turrent things on the roof when the Mysterious Stranger decided to help out. He appeared on the edge of the roof gutter 100 feet up and destroyed the turrent for me. Then he half fell off the edge and started to free-fall when he finished his animation and disappeared!

It's a good thing the stranger has that Vortex Manipulator!

The BoS not showing up is known glitch; I'm not sure if it has something to do with the order you come to the GNR or not; but I've had it happen to me except the dead BoS was there but no Fatman.

If you've been to Rivet City before talking to him, and/or talked to Dr. Li; then you already have the knowledge he would have bargained with you for. So instead he reverts to his secret weapons cache. (and going to Rivet City first might be what caused the glitch of the BoS not showing up).

Either way, I welcome that weapons cache rather than some info on Dad; since this isn't my first time around and I know where Dad is,











That is really funny!






I had a weird thing happen with Misa hunting the Enclave camps the last time I played - got to one of the camps and found the Enclave guy in his underwear - period. I really wish I'd gotten a screen of it; but he started attacking before I thought of it. When he was dead he had absolutely NOTHING on him!

So anyway, there was supposed to be three Enclave there, so I was looking around the area for them and saw a fully dressed in Enclave armor person, so shot them. Imagine my surprise when I go to loot the guy and it is a Raider!

I didn't think to take a picture of the naked Enclave before killing him; but I did get the shot of the Raider in the Enclave - that was probably one of the coolest glitches I've ever seen; how real was that !!!

I'll post the screenshot of the Raider in Enclave armor on the screens thread.

Ben has now hit 300 hours and is officially in semi-retirement. He has finished Broken Steel and got his hands on Callahan's Magnum. Woo Hoo! The gun really rocks but I can feel that its durability is slightly worse than the other handguns. Still, it is so cool to finally have it.

The Citadel has seen better days and Ben does apologize for any inconvenience. Lol.

He is still trying to work out Agatha's Station though. Switching on last night he heard Agatha talking all loving and glowing about the travelling salesman, Crow, and how he is now her 'love' and keeping her bed warm at night. What? When did this happen? Have I been working hard at destroying the world while she has been working to bring harmony back to it?

And I thought she was loyal to the memory of her late husband. It just goes to show you cannot believe anybody.

I am back on Oblivion now (with my brand new Dunmer) and plan to play that until around August.

Vortex Manipulator! That is exactly how it happened. Thanks for explaining that!

Naked Enclave attacking mALX. Now that does make me laugh. Are you sure he wasn't a jealous lover of Agatha that went AWOL?

You blew up the Citadel! For shame!

I have never had a character who did that. Though granted I think Anty was the only one to ever finish the Broken Steel dlc. What does it look like after you bomb it?

Ha ha, boxers or briefs?



Funny thing, I am making the slow switch from Skyrim to Fallout 3. I will play FO3 until mid-fall, most likely. Oblivion, on the other hand, is a year-round game for me, pretty much.

Why are you switching to Oblivion? Just curious. For me, it's a seasonal thing.

Porter Waggoner is the one that gave Dolly Parton her start in the business. He managed her career for her first seven years, and they did several songs together.









@ Winter Wolf - Is that the gun hidden on the table off the map behind the mountain that you have to scale? (Behind Liberty Prime's head or something)? Oh no, that one was a Beta Teasla Cannon.

Man it took me like 87 cursing filled tries to get that before I figured out a formula of where to aim/rest/and save to make it to the top, but once up there I used that gun on every tough enemy, including tagging helicopters with it. Great Awesome gun!

(And will probably be much much easier to get on the PC !!!)


Oh, okay I looked it up - it says it is much better than Blackhawk! Hmmm, I'd still have to console it, not sure I could blow up the Citadel, lol.

On Agatha - yeah, after all the stories she gives you about devotion to her husband that you fall for and come to her rescue braving mirelurks to retrieve that Soil Strad for her; then the sheet music - she was playing the Player like a violin, while Crow was playing her like a fiddle ... either way, the mind boggles at the image, lol.

But yeah, that is why the caravan stops by there for one house instead of a town,


@ Renee -

It is actually really cool! The vertibird lands and you hop out. A Brotherhood Steel guy comes up and screams, 'You, you did this!' You reply, 'Who me? I never did nothing!' After a gun fight there you can explore the building. Smoke is pouring out and embers are drifting down like fireflies. It is epic! The courtyard inside is gone and a bomb crater goes down several levels. Opening a door at the bottom of the ruins you can enter a sub-basement. The gun is inside a wall safe beside a desk. As you enter there is a Nuka Cola machine to your right. Slamming the back of your fist on it the Cola falls out and you wash away your thirst.

Very badass! Oh, and Ben is now currently in hiding from Molly. Please do not give away my location.



I am one of those people who have played Beth games since 05 and yet never had a high level character on any of them. I love starting new builds and just experimenting. This time I am forcing myself to enjoy high level characters.

So, I decided to do Fallout 3 first, as it has the lowest maximum level I will use, and then increase it with every game.
Fallout 3- level 30
Oblivion- level 35-40
NV- level 50
Skyrim level 70ish

Will take me about 2 years.

I am really loving Oblivion. Wow, green grass and rain. I forgot how long it has been without it. I danced around in the dark while getting really wet. The Imperial legion looked at me very strangely. Lol.



Knowing how much you love the Blackhawk do make sure that you grab with console. It is a blast!

And you are so right about Agatha. The mind boggles...

Hecate finished up the Wasteland Survival Guide today. She went the snide route, so it gives a bonus to critical hits (she is a sniper after all). In the process she also got Galaxy Blues Radio back on the airwaves. On the way back from Robco (the final Moira quest), she stopped by Hamilton's Hideaway to use Three-Dog's cache key. There was more loot than she could carry back, including a suit of powered armor. Not that she can wear it of course.

Next I think Hecate might be off to the vault with the Charisma bobblehead. She needs one more point in it to be able to take the Animal Friend perk. She is getting tired of having to kill dogs, so she wants to learn that one. There are a number of bobbleheads in that neck of the map, so she might swing by the Republic of Dave, National Guard Armory, and Greener Pastures Disposal site too.

This is the very first game I've ever taken the Animal Friend perk, and I am Loving it! I noticed an immediate difference, especially since taking the second rank in it.

I think that is why the modified Deathclaws are attacking the Enclave first, because in all my previous games they only came after me no matter how many Enclave were around - all except that one in Raven Rock; and that one did attack them.

When I went through the Casey garage, the molerats didn't attack me or Daddy James, like because he was on my side so were they. Raiders and Enclave though - they are getting besieged by animal attacks if I sneak near them - it is a ball to watch!

The only thing that bothers me is that the Yao gao's (spelling?) are not attacking, which makes it hard to justify killing them for their great meat which I eat a LOT of.

Mirelurks still attack, I also eat their meat so don't mind killing them. Just hate to kill a friendly yao gao.

Well, Misa has been a sniper too; but since Molly made it through with an axe I have considered letting Misa do Raven Rock with just Fisto, since it is all people to fight in there - kind of make it a little more challenging since she is at level 29 now.

Oh, I wondered if anyone knows - do I have to wait to do Broken Steel till after I die in the main quest or does your character just automatically survive it?

With Broken Steel installed and active, you don't die at the end of the main quest. Instead you fall down unconscious instead of dead. I think you still get the whole clip show of what you did with Ron Perlman narrating as you normally would. Then you wake up back at the Citadel two weeks later. The BS quests start right after that, taking the fight to the Enclave.