More it's that no matter what else Lothran does, the one thing we can be certain he'll do in the end is go home.

Lady Saga - The vampire slayer


Yes, that is indeed true

How cute she is!

I just noticed that scamp stalking her. I hope it's one she summoned!

What's the orange bar measuring? Does she need more juice?

And she has the Empire Greatsword! Persephone is using that in Oblivion as well.

@mALX - I think so too.

@ghastley - Sharp eyes. I didn't even notice the scamp.

The shot was taken just before she went into Darkfathom Cave - that's an Everscamp. And the orange bar is for encumbrance - it's from HUD Status Bars?. It's set to fill up as her inventory fills up, so when it's full, she can't carry any more.

And as long as I'm here, but only briefly since I still don't have material for an actual story - Elenin got into the AU, got her staff, made a bunch of new spells (shock/fire/frost on touch, shock/fire/frost on target, frost/shock AOE and turn undead/fire) and bought the waterfront shack. As I hoped, when she was moving stuff from the sacks she'd been using in the Market District to the waterfront, she was stopped in the Temple district by Ralsa Norvalo and ended up doing the Order of the Virtuous Blood, the completion of which triggered the Paladin mod. So she's now gotten the first hint of her destiny and the real meat of her story is going to start.

When she found out she could (and should) free the souls of the undead, she first went back to Memorial cave and redeemed all of the undead and vampires she had just fought. That pleased her, which is exactly what I was hoping - she's probably the most melancholy character I've played, and it was nice to see her feeling more positive. I wasn't quite sure what she'd want to do next though, so I left her parked just outside the door of Memorial cave.

Here is a song for Elenin, one I think she shares with Persephone.

I never tried to bring you pain
It's the nature of this game
But you know it won't be long
And I see you can be strong
One day it will work out fine
You just need to take the time
to remember those you left behind

Lothran took a stroll down to Leyawiin yesterday. The weather was all nice and dandy until he reached the gates of said town, then it began to pour. Not uncommon for these parts, though





Gamer´s note: All I did last night was just that; took Lothran out for a trip from Bravil to Leyawiin. And when I looked at the clock I had gamed for one and a half hour Sure there were a couple of fights on the way but that´s it. Remarkable yet not uncommon for most of us I´d say

Mirocu, glad Lothie enjoyed his walk. That sounds about right for me too. I have the time scale set so it takes generally all in-game day to travel from one city to the next. Unless there's a waterfall on the way. Or a dungeon. . . .

.... or a bandit camp, or a skooma lair ....

Yah, how time passes. What timescale do you use, mirocu? Off-topic, but I've been playing Sims 3 lately, and one of the things I"m missing in that game is the ability to slow time down. I've got Oblivion set to 10, while Sims 3 is more like 30 or even higher.

Same as you; 10.

It was one of those awesome sessions where nothing needed to happen; I could enjoy the game to the fullest anyway

Yeah, I like when this happens. I'm sure I'll do some more gaming with Saga this weekend for sure, Sims 3 or no Sims 3. I believe Saga was last headed toward Skingrad. And Snaat Rayag is also headed there too. And my new gal Sarah Phimm has been living there. So it'll be a Skingrad Set of Sessions no matter who gets picked next.

Loredas, Sun's Dusk 9, early evening.

Love the update!

It's been a few years since Vion was in the Imperial City for the last time but in Frost Fall of 3€433 he visited the capital of Cyrodiil again, this time fortunately not accompanying his father Regulus on a trip to the Elder Council, but instead as a free man. A poster labeled Wanted caught his attention and he walked closer to see what it was about. Curious to find out more about the mysterious Gray Fox, about whom he occasionally heard from rumors, he approached a nearby guard...

"We're here to serve," said the guard and abruptly stopped his march.

"Excuse me, is this man still on loose?" asked Vion and pointed at the nearby poster.

"He's just a thief," frowned the guard. "He's supposed to be the head of the Thieves Guild. What a joke! Can you imagine a bunch of thieves trying to form a guild? The nobility hate him, but the peasants and the beggars love him, especially in the Waterfront."

"So if there's not a guild of thieves and he's just some ordinary thief, why is there a bounty on his head?"

"The Emperor is dead, and so are his heirs," said the guard, deeply saddened. "We're a Legion without a leader. The Blades were trusted with our Lord's protection... and they failed."

"I...see. But what does have to do with the Gray Fox?"

"Another day, another septim," said the guard, nodded politely and continued his march.

Vion realized that guards in the Imperial City still didn't differ much from those in his home town of Bravil. They could either be a useful resource of information if they were prepared to share them with citizens of Cyrodiil, but they could be as useless as imps if they set their mind on not revealing more about some subject.

He walked down the street and handed a coin at No-Coins Draninus, earning "a blessing of Anu" upon himself.

Decrepit would know how to respond to that nonsensical guard!!!

Decrepit's avatar will save us all!

Nice little story there, sir Lopov. Welcome back. Love all the double-talk the guards gave him.

Loredas, Evening Star 22, 3rd Era 434

Snaat Rayag is in Skingrad, moseying around, looking for somebody (any women, maybe even men) he can "turn out", and send to Gweden's brothel house.

I just added my first custom-made NPC to his gameworld, a Dunmer guy named Duuche Bayag. Just experimenting with this guy for the moment, seeing how AI packages and such work. Duuche is a Farmer (class) but also a Bandit (faction). Chances are, Snaaty and Duuche will become a friendly pair....

Duuche Bayag!

I just love Renee´s mind!

Yes, Duuche Bayag, who is apparently a friend of Undena the tomato lady. Snaat Rayag met Duuche Bayag for the first time in Undena's house, you see. Mr. Bayag is fairly lazy at the moment: he wanders around her house for a few hours, eats for a couple hours twice a day, and I'm trying to see how to make him walk to Two Sister's Lodge for yet another meal but so far that trick isn't working. But yeah, he gets munchies a lot. At least he eats though, he doesn't get in fights with his water jug.

It's fun! I love messing around with the CS.

At the top of the window find the word "Character" and click on it.


Go down to the word "Packages" and click on it.



Highlight anywhere on the window that opens up and right click; choose "New."


Name your AI package something easy to find; a name that will float to the top alphabetically like AAAADeuchBagEatTwoSisters.

Package type is "Eat"

(whatever time and duration you want, but give him a couple hours at least (to get there and back) and make sure you don't overlap any times (leaving an hour gap between packages is a good idea, because if the new package kicks in while they are still completing the other, they might skip the new one.


Location is "In Cell" SkingradTwoSistersLodge.




** Now, if that doesn't work:




Drop an X Marker anywhere in the Two Sisters Lodge - name the X Marker something like AAADeuchBagFindTwoSistersRef.

Make a second Package; Name it something like AAADeuchBagFindTwoSistersPkg. The Package type of this one is "Find" ; Location is that X Marker.

(or if you want him to choose a certain chair you can choose which chair/name the chair/and make it a persistant reference - location would be SkingradTwoSistersLodge and pinpointing that chair (no need for X-Marker that way - I prefer to see them pick their own chair, but it is your choice).

Say you want them to eat at 11 AM at the Two Sisters; you set the "Find" package for 10:00 am and have it run for one hour; then start the eat package at 11 for (say 2 hours).


In the Conditions tab, set them up to Evaluate Packages (on the "Find" package only); and make that a top priority if you have any other conditions listed. (no target or function; == 1.00 And)



** Any issues with that = make the "Find" package for 3 hours, to cover him finding the place and eating.



** Now, if that STILL doesn't work:


Click on these two flags for both packages:


"Must Reach Location"

"Must Complete"


(Never ever under any circumstances click on "Continue if PC near," it screws up all their AI packages).






***** If you don't want them to go out to eat if it is raining; add this condition to both the packages:


(no target) IsRaining (no function) == 0.00 And

Wow. Hey thanks mALX that's beautiful. Deuche Bayag did wind up going to Two Sisters' eventually, but the odd thing is Snaat had to return to Undena's first. As soon as he entered the house, I saw a glimpse of Duuche leaving it, and sure enough he went to Two Sisters on his own. I have seen other NPCs do this in the base game, so it was just the game's instructions getting "stuck", I guess.

The "overlap" part would have stumped me in the future if I hadn't read that. I also didn't know about the X marker thingie, so I just saved that advice in my special advice folder, ha ha.

But now that I got your attention .... leveled lists for Creatures are in Object Window > Actors > Leveled Creatures, right? Because I was told that to remove animals from a specific plug-in, I need to remove them from the list they are in, not their base form under "Creatures".

Ghastley knows about leveled lists; and probably SubRosa. Me = I wouldn't dare remove a vanilla animal from the game for any reason. Changing their personality's to friendly via a mod - I don't mind that; but that is as far as I'll go.

When you remove something vanilla; you have to make sure it is NEVER referenced ANYWHERE. Not just in spawn points, but it can't be referenced in any scripts; any packages; globally; any factions; etc. You are risking making your game unstable. Better to just make them friendly instead of non-existent; imho.



Oh wait, is it from a mod? Not an official DLC? If it is a mod, it is not so dangerous to fool with; but Ghastley or SubRosa would still be your best choice of adviser imho. They are who I turn to over anyone else when I need advice on modding.

I'm not trying to remove a vanilla animal, I'm trying to remove one added by a mod.



Yes. I'm laughing because I've asked this question in TK's thread like 3 times now. Mod, not vanilla.


Okay hon, thanks.

Lothran have just visited the small island S-E of Leyawiin, the one with the bridge to it and the ruined house. There´s an abundance of Nirnroots in this area and he always checks up on them when he´s in the area to make sure tmar´s character Baa hasn´t picked any

Now he´s resting at the Leyawiin Fighters Guild. Not sure what he´s up to next

Good to hear Lothie's enjoying Leyawiin. One last fix of warm weather before beginning to amble north for the winter? Aww, nice that he leaves the nirns to grow. I'm sure Baa would put them back if she could - I'm sure she and Mooch didn't realize they won't grow back. The only one Buffy picked was at the bottom of the MG well in Cheydinhal. She's glad she did because it helped her make friends with dear Sindarion.

Hanging out at the FG wondering what to do next, eh? How about hunting some Ashcan trolls just up the road at Veyond?

Lothran didn´t know that either, otherwise he wouldn´t have picked any


That´s a good tip!


Aaaaand what about Buffy´s adventures in Cyrodiil?

Well, a few days ago, Buffy had just come out of Felgageldt Cave and was debating whether to clear Ceyatatar before continuing on toward Skingrad. This morning however, she's hunting dwagons way north of Bruma. . . .

How about he tests his thieving skills some more? After all, a master thief should practice from time to time to stay in shape.

Another good tip, although he already did test them out earlier this year when he wanted to finish his town cuirass collection quest

Then again, there are more things around that aren´t nailed down...

*mALX reads that Lothran left a bunch of Nirnroot on the island near Leyawiin; quickly sends Maxical to Leyawiin to snatch it up before Lothran changes his mind and returns for it*

No!

Bad Maxical!

"Who...me?"

Today Lothran left Leyawiin and Blackwood and is currently enjoying a beautiful sunset from the bench at Imperial Bridge Inn. A few Azhklan trolls were slain and a Courier saved from a wolf, and next time the Dunmer will hunt for necrodudes at the chapel on his way to Bravil

I love Imperial Bridge Inn, that's the place one of mine discovered last year, and I had no idea there's an inn tucked away back there. Is Lothran headed back to Bruma soon?

... i haven't been playing Oblivion much this past week (imagine that) except with Sarah Phimm a couple times. Her game is interesting in a way. No action at all; she's merely a cook for Mog in Two Sisters' Lodge. It's a funny thing too, while I'm being with Sarah, I can do other things around my house, like help my daughter with homework or some chores. It's because Sarah's game hasn't got any action. I've also been playing some Sims 3 ... which is (of course) another low-action game.

Anyways, good to hear Lothran is headed .... somewhere.

In the end of November, as per usual


It´s still rather refreshing I think to play games with very little action. I truly enjoy what the intro of the manual says; live another life in another world, and in my world there´s lots of peace going on




Yeah, he´s a little all over the plcae right now but he does have part goals in mind: Bravil-Imperial City-Aleswell-Bruma. And then it all starts over again with Chorrol in mid-March.

I think I need to give Lothran some more structure, don´t you think..?

OMG, this reminded me of one of my favorite fics of all time by Rachel the Breton; when her title character "Edward the Imperial" ended up at Cadlew Chapel!

I don't know when I've laughed so hard, here is the link for anyone that wants to read it:

(it is Chapter 72)


http://chorrol.com/forums/index.php?showto...4502&st=160

Had to read up to chapter 80! Blimey, it was good!


But lemme tell ya, if I was that servant I would kick Edward´s butt to the moon and back!

Looks like Lothran saved the protagonist of Fallout: New Vegas...

Did Lothran pick up unique trousers at the Cadlew Chapel? Now you'll probably say "That was already years ago."

Lol


No, now I say what the fudge?

I don´t know of any trousers!!

That "servant" (or who Edward THINKS is his servant) is no other than Martin Septim! (in his humbler days before finding out he is the Emperor's son).

And Edward joins the Dark Brotherhood with his "Servant" in tow, and the Adoring Fan joins them - I LOVED that story so much !!!!

How I miss Rachel the Breton and her wonderfully fun writing!!!!!

@mirocu - maybe I mixed something up and pants at Cadlew Chapel aren't exactly unique but I know you can find a piece there which is otherwise obtainable only by killing NPCs that wear them, and IIRC only two or three NPCs wear these particular pants.

I think you mean the black zero weight pants that Vicente and only a couple other NPC's wear. I've only gotten robes at Cadlew, can you get those pants there?

Because they are zero weight and so is one of the shirts you find in Gweden basement; I take those two items and enchant them for the highest Chameleon I can and just carry them in my inventory so if the need to sneak and be stealthy comes up she can just change out her armor for the clothing and tiptoe through dangerous places. (usually with the Ring of Khajiit on as well).

No, it's not Vicente's pants, the pants at Cadlew Chapel look differently, they're blue-white. I know that a hostile captain in Anvil docks wears them but he's behind a very-hard locked door.

UESP says they're the Rugged Pants - nobody is wearing them, not even a placed corpse.

UESP is wrong, I'm sure that both the captain in Anvil and one worshipper of Boethiah wear them. Let me find their pics...

Here's the captain.

And here's the worshipper.

There might be some more NPCs who wear rugged pants.

Do you mean Gaston? I thought he just wore the common burgundy pants, were they rare?



Oh wait, you said Anvil docks. Oh, THAT Captain! Do you know, that is one quest I've never been able to find! Now that I know he has rare clothing, I'll go hunt again and more thoroughly!


I think I was afraid of upsetting friendly relations with that girl you buy your upgrades from, does she not try to stop you from going below decks?

I meant at Cadlew Chapel, nobody is wearing them.

Slow day in Bravil today. Lothran sold a collectible weapon he didn´t want anymore, got some other weapons repaired up to 100% and then mostly wandered around town and talked to some nice people. Now he´s enjoying an evening at Silverhome but I think as night falls he´ll check out the nearby cave for potential treasure