Thank you. Yay adulting.

I'm pretty sure I got Clothing and Woodworking, but I don't remember. This close to the end I'd wait for an update from mALX.

WOO HOO!!! I just saw in my mail that Grits sent two Attunable tables!
(Clothier and Woodworking)

So what we still need for the October 21 drop:


1 Attunable Blacksmithing Stations
1 Attunable Clothier Stations
1 Attunable Woodworking Stations
1 Attunable Jewelry Crafting Station


Just one more set to get!!! Thank you so much Grits!!!

I expect to get the twenty-ish vouchers I need for another tonight, so I'll make it a Blacksmithing one. That's if I haven't just jinxed the RNG!

Okay, I'm going in the game now to grab one each of clothing & wood attunable tables and mail them to mALX. Will edit/update this post once I've sent them.

Update: Okay, just mailed a clothing and a woodworking station to mALX.

Random thought: I noticed that the Companions style pages had been cleaned out of the Guild Bank. It's a good idea, as they don't stack, but did that happen before Lopov got a chance at them? I have a bunch, but not a second complete set.

Asking this now, as we'll have similar issues in future, and Hollowjack is about to do something similar. Being a proper motif, that at least is useful a second (or even third) time, as a new crafter can learn it on the same account, and use it for writs. I don't recall if there's any other style-only account-wide stuff coming up.

Woo Hoo!!! I'll have to get in game and check my mail! Thank you so much Acadian!!




Urgh; I did that a few weeks ago; it was before Lopov started playing. I can get another set of them with no problems; we just didn't have room in the bank for all of them.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOT !!!! Acadian just donated another Clothier and Woodworking station; meaning we are down to just needing:


1 Attunable Blacksmithing Stations
1 Attunable Jewelry Crafting Station


Thank you so much, Acadian !!!!


Also; I have some Master Writs (for Vouchers) built up; and the remainder of Haute's donation toward tables is still waiting in the Guild Bank!

And of course I did Jinx myself, and we only got one sealed writ across the entire crew. However, it was a decent gold enchanting one, and got us close. A bit of searching for writ vouchers down the back of the sofa, and one station is on its way.

Lol, that always happens to me too; lol.




WOO HOO!!! Ghastley just donated the last Blacksmithing station needed! Thank you so much, Ghastley!!!


The final table needed:


1 Attunable Jewelry Crafting Station


And as I mentioned before; I have some Master Writs with Vouchers built up; and Haute's previous donation toward tables is still waiting to be used.

How exciting that we are progressing so well toward having a full complement when the next DLC drops. That gold I put in is there for the guild, I don't want you to hesitate to use it for anything for the guild hall or for our events and what not, it's not just for the tables (though that was the original intent).

In an unrelated topic, is anyone up for another Saturalia/Winter Solstice celebration at my Pariah's Pinnacle this year? The 21st (the day of the Solstice) falls on a Saturday this year; I can request a vacation day for that particular day. If I get it off, then it could be an all day thing (once my crew gets their dailies out of the way, that is!).

Please let me know ASAP as requests for that day off will likely go fast.

Buffy would be available and delighted to come celebrate Solstice in the snow that Saturalia.

Ugh, the Witches Festival hasn’t even occurred yet!

I wouldn't miss one of your parties for anything; they are a blast !!!!

OOH!!! If you are hosting another Saturalia party this year (our Chorrolite's annual tradition; thanks to you!!!) = I think you should use whatever of the money you donated to the Guild Bank that you need to fund the party; and I've got vouchers to use for the last table we need! Oh, I can't wait for that party; you throw the absolute best parties I've been to in this game!!! You are still credited with the donation regardless; because those parties you throw benefit the entire Guild!

Hopefully Khajiit will be able to attend Rider’s Saturnalia party this year.

Welp, I got that day declared a vacation day! As I did last year, I’ll host an Open House.

mALX, I probably won’t need that gold back since I am unlikely to add anything more than possibly FX to Pariah’s.

As we get closer to the Day, I’ll post more details about the Guild Party!

Is it going to be on the Winter Solstice like last year?

WOO HOO!! I can't wait !!!!



Okay, I loaded the Guild Bank up with Recipes and Furniture Plans = PLEASE everyone take as many as you can use for ALL your characters to make room in the Bank!!!

Lopov = almost all of these should be usable by you; and Rader? Please, lets get them out of the Bank so there is room for all the new armor and weapons that will be coming in from the new DLC!!

Yes, it will be on Saturday the 21st of December - that is the day I was able to get off. I know it’s the Saturday before Christmas, so not everyone will be able to make it due to RL party obligations. That’s why I’ll be doing it as an Open House, like I did last year.

Athynae will be there. She will try not to annoy everyone.... No promises without Athlain there to serve as a target...

I saw the Daring Corsair tables when Laurie used the one at the other end of the line for a writ last night. Did you finish the shuffle already? I was expecting a LOOOOOONG time just to move everything else around.

Replying from another thread:



Most of his skill points are going to magicka, some are going to health and none are going to stamina. ATM his points are: 17-M 10-H 1-S.

What do you mean by two bars?

I'm pursuing the path called the Inferno Dragon, so it's Light Armor and Magicka and staves as a primary weapon. Pieces of armor, which he wears, do one of the following: boosting magicka pool / boosting magicka regen rate / boosting magical and physical resistances. He wears only one piece of jewelry that boosts his health. Unfortunately not all items mentioned above are of light armor, two are MA and one is HA. He doesn't wear any item that'd affect his stamina. He has some perks that regenerate his magicka but because his entire set is not of LA, this bonus isn't maximal.

So if I get this right, you (and others) are going to create a piece of light armor for Shonta Quassan with the bonuses I mentioned above? That will make my Argonian very happy.

In no particular order:

You get a second skill bar at level 15, so instead of having only five skills (+ an Ultimate) to choose between, you have ten and two Ultimates. I was guessing, based on the time, that he would be around that level.

Five pieces of Light gets you perks from the Light Armor skill line, but then it benefits you to wear one piece of Medium and one piece of Heavy, to keep those lines advancing. The Heavy piece is usually the chest, as that provides max defense, and the medium can be anything.

You don't need to invest in anything but Magicka, as you can get enough health or stamina from enchantments (or later, Champion points). While you are outgrowing equipment, at under CP160, then it all gets Training trait, and whatever enchantments balance your needs, but most importantly, it can be a complete matched set to get the bonuses. Since you're doing a staff-based magicka build, we'd provide Julianos and maybe Magnus' Gift. Those provide a good mix of max Magicka, regen, and spell damage/critical. I run that combo on my Argonian. with Julianos on body, and Magnus on weapons/jewelry. You could farm Silks of the Sun in Stonefalls as an alternative, but those two are craftable.

Since you can't wear gear that's a higher level than your character, we'd need to know where you are now.

Yes, that's right, I could choose another Ultimate but haven't done it yet.


Okay, I'll keep that in mind. I was just playing and I checked - all but his legs are light, only legs are heavy and boost his magicka pool. He used to wear middle armor on shoulders but obviously already switched it to light.


Sounds good!


ATM Shonta's level is 23, soon it'll be 24.

At level 24, you'd be wearing Linen, Hide and Steel. So a Steel Cuirass, Hide Guards, and Linen Shoes, Sash, and Gloves will let you use any light hat and epaulets. I'll make a set of Julianos in Training with Magicka enchantment at Green level.

A couple of Oak Inferno Staves in Magnus Gift with Infused trait and Weapon Damage could go with jewelry of the same set. No point using more than Terne plating yet, and that's abundant, so crafted jewelry is reasonable. If you have Silks of the Sun jewels, I'll do Magnus hat and/or epaulets.

If anyone has any different suggestions, let me know before I get to it tonight.

You'll need more at around Levels 34 and 44, at blue and purple grades, in higher materials etc. Since this is the first character, you have to grind up through CP 10-160 and you'll possibly want an upgrade during that. I went through those fairly quickly on my first (Unna) and didn't really stop to make anything. You may be making your own by then, anyway, as crafting can level faster than combat if you decide to do so. Mixed level sets still work, so Unna was replacing a piece at a time with her own crafting, rather than the whole set at once.

After CP160, you start using the Undaunted two-piece head/shoulder sets, so I habitually leave those two slots out of the other sets, and replace a whole set. Laurie has a set of Ebon Armory that can replace her Song of Lamae for different content, for example, because it's the same pieces in each. Chest/legs/hands/feet/waist is one set, weapons and jewelry is another, and head/shoulders are the undaunted ones.

Sounds good to me!

I haven't delved into crafting yet, except some basic crafting tasks at the Bleakrock Isle and in Davon's Watch we haven't crafted anything on our own.

I don't have any Silks of the Sun jewels, but Shonta's current Redoran robe is a part of the Silks of the Sun set. But he'd prefer to have a cuirass instead of a robe anyway.

Yes, it took two days to get it all done, urk. They have an add-on that makes moving the tables simple; but since the Psijic Villa has all those columns and light beams interfere with the Woodworking and Blacksmithing tables (which is also why you don't find them all in the same order around the room, urgh).


By the way; for anyone who might be wondering and doesn't know yet = two of the three new Sets is in the Guild Hall; but the third set is Quest locked. I thought it was locked by the Main Quest of Southern Elsweyr; but as it turns out = I also have to do several Dragonguard "Daily" quests. We can only do two of those per day; so it will be a few days before we get the third Set in the Guild Hall.

Don't worry about the crafting until you are ready to or want to; because crafting uses up a lot of skill points you will need to develop your character; especially the first character because they will usually need to upgrade all their equipment crafting skills every ten levels.

Ghastley is right about letting your armor slide a bit in these early levels though. The Characters level too quickly; and would cost too much to keep their armor at their level. A good way to stretch armor is to improve it; especially if you have a Set like Ghastley is talking about because those give you huge bonuses. I can send Ghastley whatever materials he needs to make that Set blue quality; and it should last you right up to Level 50.

At or after Level 50; Armor really starts to make a difference. You will notice you need to upgrade more frequently as you are now in the Champion Levels and starting to gain Champion Points toward building your character stronger.

Right now there are no Armor or Weapons in the game that are over level "Champion Point 160" (CP 160 is what everyone calls it when discussing it).

When you reach CP 150; people will still be happy to make armor for you; but once you reach CP 160 = you won't find anyone making you armor Sets for your character anymore; because they are hugely expensive to craft. At that point; your Character will be able to decide what kind of armor they want and go out and get it by digging through dungeons or Dolmen; etc (or buying the Sets you want in Guild Stores) = or by then you can have built up your Crafting Skills and be doing it yourself.

(But always check out our Chorrolites Guild Bank before buying to see if there is a Set in there you want first before buying, )

My first Character (Misa) was Level CP 110 before I decided I had to make my own Armor; and started her learning how to Craft her own. Then she made the Armor and Weapons for all the new Characters after that. (and she is still my biggest "Adventuring" Character; she just does both now that she is "grown").

I only made it green, as it will probably need replacing in ten levels or so, and I'd do blue at 34. We sent 5 pieces of Julianos, and 5 of Magnus' Gift, leaving out head/shoulders for now. And I have so much of the lower-level mats it's essentially from the waste bin.

And then we were rewarded by Bo picking up two Potent Nirncrux on her way to a Clothier survey.

Aw, that was really nice = and the universe noticed it too!

He won't be able to get the Monster Sets for a long time; I might send him a head and hat from the Seducer Set if I manage to get back online again. My youngest son is getting married this weekend; we have friends and relatives coming in = big prep time right now.

Thank you, ghastley. I'll check it out when I'm about to game today in the evening. There'll be screenies too!

I'll probably explore crafting in details with another character. I already have passing thoughts here and there about another t00n in another alliance.

The training trait should help you level faster, so hopefully you'll need an upgrade before Nov 1st. Let me know when you do.

Guild meeting this Friday (Nov 1). Buffy should be up for it. Anyone else?

Traffic permitting, I'll have one of mine there.

Sadly I will not be able to make our Witches Festival guild meeting. Jerric will hate to miss it!

Jerric is always missed when he can't make it!



I can be there; but may need some help with someone poking me in game around the time. I lose track of time when playing, lol.

Oh, have we decided on any Witches Festival fun we can do for the meet?

What time are we doing Guild meets these days? I would love for Brenna to make this one but we are only free before 5pm CST.

Regarding the WitchieFest, delves and public dungeons are horribly overfarmed and crowded during the event. WBs and dolmens are busy but plenty of time for everyone to get hits in. A couple places have a dolmen and WB within sight of each other (Glenumbra and Deeshan) and make pretty good hunting grounds for groups.

Depending on our numbers, a group dungeon is good also. Direfrost Keep is Redbeard's pledge that day and is a very good choice. The dungeon is one of the easier ones (Buffy could solo it if not for the silly requirement to have two players stand on two pressure plates at one point).

Just some thoughts. Other ideas would be most welcome. For example, anyone who wants to lead a WB run to bag several WBs could also be fun.

Edit: Oh, the time of the meet is normally 5PM EST (4PM CST I think). I can flex earlier or later. Ghastley said he is traffic dependent so that sounds like earlier might not work for him and it sounds like a later time might not work for Khajiit.

4 should give us an hour before we’ll need to log, but that should give us enough time to run a dungeon if we get on it right away.

Cincy and I will most certainly be there. I'm down for a group dungeon if we have the right amount of people for it. Where are we going to start out at? And have we decided on the normal time then?

EDIT: Khajiit, do you have wares voice chat on Discord? I am curious as to what the desertwalker sounds like.

I was never able to get it working, unfortunately. I may play with it tomorrow and see if I can get it working. I know it can be done, but the Discord interface is wonky with ESO.

1. If I read the constraints properly, it looks like going early might not work for ghastley getting through traffic to join us and that going later would not give Khajiit enough time to play. So, it seems like staying with the normal time of 5PM EST may be for the best. I suggest we gather at the guild hall (mALX's primary residence).

2. Discord. When several of us first got it, we tried (and failed) to make it interface with ESO in game. So what I do is run it in the background separately. I simply minimize the game for a few moments if I need to touch anything with Discord while in game. That seems to work well as the game minimizes and comes back up nicely and the only times I access Discord in game are simply to join or exit a voice channel.

Actually my traffic issues are more variability, than time. My route home has bridge construction that make it unpredictable. We could do earlier, and I'd just leave a bit earlier, too, (and still be late.)

Khajiit = King Coin couldn't get his mike working either; but he was able to hear us on the Discord while playing and he would just type his answers in the Chat Box (Chorrolites Guild Chat) so we could all see them. If you need to do that it is perfectly understandable. It helps if you are on Discord to hear what we are doing next; which direction to go, etc. Also; Uleni couldn't get his to work; and he sometimes drops in to say "Hi" on the Discord (as does Elizabeth Hollow!)

One good place to go is in Deshaan = Forgotten Crypts (Public Dungeon) has numerous bosses in it; there is a Dolmen right outside the door of it; and a Delve right beside the Dolmen so we would have plenty to do for Plunder Skulls all in one small spot!

As I said, I may play with it tomorrow and see if I can get it working.

Public dungeons are cake for Brenna, she routinely invades Bad Man’s Hollow for the Witches Fest Dremora Skull for public dungeons. I would like for us to do a group dungeon so we can get the Dremora Skull for big dungeons.

I've been taking Pia through Fungal Grotto 1 every night (after 2 a.m. Eastern Time every night) with just one other girl I play with a lot. It is the easiest group dungeon and gives you a bunch of purple Plunder Skulls in addition to the one gold (plus a skill point if you haven't done it before). For that dungeon; all you need is one person who can take the aggro and one DPS; keep your own selves healed and it is a fun romp.

Not sure if there is a Pledge for it or not that night; but I've been going regardless just because it is the easiest one to do for only a couple characters. (Buffy can solo it; but Pia needs a second person with her, lol).

However; that said = we have two new members whose characters may not be up to a high enough level to do the Group Dungeons yet (I can't remember if they have a Level limit still or not; but they used to) = or especially Renee at this point (since she just started yesterday) might not be up for such intense combat dungeons.

This Guild Meet might have a large enough membership that a group dungeon would be off the list anyway; they only allow 4 at a time.

When are you usually online? Maybe we could get a few of us together to run Fungal Grotto on a different night?

I've avoided the group dungeons, just because of time. You have to get the skull from the final boss, which means working through all the rest first. The Public dungeons give you a skull from the first one you meet, and then you can just leave. If I run into the mini-dolmen/Dark Fissure thing, then that gives the same skull as the Public dungeons, and I skip them.

I'd probably do the Publics for the large number of bosses in one place if i was chasing a lot of the purples, but too much time is already used up with the crafting dailies.

The worst skull/time ratio is probably going to be arenas. I don't expect many of the Dremora page from those will be in the traders after the event. Trials at least have multiple participants, so more supply.