QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Dec 22 2019, 08:42 AM)

It sounds like a mess, tbh, but then again, Abrams had a lot of work to do to try and make some sense out of the weirdness that was The Last Jedi. Unless we get bored and decide to go to the theatre some time this week, I’ll probably just catch it when it’s out on streaming/BluRay.
It is hardy a mess. It is the opposite of a mess. It cleans up the mess
QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Dec 22 2019, 09:21 AM)

Lol the EU had so much good stuff in it. A shame Disney is choosing not to use any of it. Khajiit would love to see some of the Old Republic stuff!
They use a lot of EU material. Thrawn, the TIE Defenders (which were not Thrawn's project in the EU), Mandalorians (in the movies the Fetts were just bounty hunters), and so on. They are just picking and choosing what and when they incorporate things.
QUOTE(mirocu @ Dec 22 2019, 09:26 AM)

I would love to see a movie where Thrawn's TIE Defender project is fleshed out for instance. I don't care about a watered down Vader copy in Kylo Ren or a watered down Luke copy in Rey who btw is flawless and don't require training (bah!).
I want to know more about well established characters and the things they do. Like Vader fighting the ninth assassin and the only stormtrooper who was taught by Vader to use a light saber. THAT is interesting AF!
(Yes, I'm a Vader fancrow

)
I agree that Kylo Ren is a Darth Vader copy. Most of the Star Wars dark jedi are from the EU are. All most of the video games and novels really do is change around their appearance, and you get Darth Malak, and so on.
Likewise, Rey is uber powerful. But calling her flawless is ridiculous. She is just as flawless as Luke, and Obi-Wan, and Vader, and all the other male characters. Let's look at Luke: who blew up a super battle station, not using a targeting computer, was immediately placed in a fighter squadron with no military training whatsover, lead a flight group in said squadron, saved the princess, and otherwise blasted tie fighters out of the sky and mowed down legions of stormtroopers on the ground. All with the background skills of being a water farmer. Oh, and yes, he spent one minute with a bucket on his head with an old coot telling him to feel the force. That was Luke's training for A New Hope.
It is interesting that we never hear this about characters like Luke, or Captain America, or James Bond, or Dirty Harry, or Vin Diesel in every movie he has ever been in, or the Rock in every movie he has ever been in. The list of truly flawless and plainly fantasy wish-fulfillment male protagonists goes on and on for miles and decades. Yet that is not only perfectly fine, but normal and expected. That is the most telling fact of all.
Is Rey uber? Yes. The same as all jedi. Is that bad, only if it is bad that all jedi are bad