That error is tied to the graphics performance- unfortunately. What happens is, the computer uses CPU resources to supplement whatever the graphics card is handling.
When the performance slows- it CAN be a sign of overheating... you can open up the side panel (on a standard upright tower model) to get more airflow...
And there are also some settings you can change to improve performance- turning off hardware acceleration comes to mind....
https://www.wikihow.com/Turn-Off-Hardware-Acceleration
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Another possibility, especially if you're having to turn settings way down, is that you're not actually using the new card! Some of the GTX1650's don't have the connectors for VGA or DVI, only the later HDMI and Display port sockets. So you may have plugged the monitor in to the only place it would fit, and got the on-board graphics instead.
If that's the case, an adapter cable will fix it, and you'll get the performance you expect.
If that setting that Treydog pointed to is present, then you likely do have on-board low-power graphics.
If that's the case, an adapter cable will fix it, and you'll get the performance you expect.
If that setting that Treydog pointed to is present, then you likely do have on-board low-power graphics.
QUOTE(treydog @ Apr 19 2020, 09:58 AM) 
That error is tied to the graphics performance- unfortunately. What happens is, the computer uses CPU resources to supplement whatever the graphics card is handling.
When the performance slows- it CAN be a sign of overheating... you can open up the side panel (on a standard upright tower model) to get more airflow...
And there are also some settings you can change to improve performance- turning off hardware acceleration comes to mind....
https://www.wikihow.com/Turn-Off-Hardware-Acceleration
I couldn't find any thing that mentioned acceleration; it only shows choices for using "video player" or "Nvidia" settings = and I don't know which settings I should have that set to; but right now it is set for Video Player.
QUOTE(ghastley @ Apr 19 2020, 10:33 AM)
Another possibility, especially if you're having to turn settings way down, is that you're not actually using the new card! Some of the GTX1650's don't have the connectors for VGA or DVI, only the later HDMI and Display port sockets. So you may have plugged the monitor in to the only place it would fit, and got the on-board graphics instead.
If that's the case, an adapter cable will fix it, and you'll get the performance you expect.
If that setting that Treydog pointed to is present, then you likely do have on-board low-power graphics.
Okay; I am not sure how to see if that is the problem = but I actually was wondering if they ever reverted the BIOS back to pulling just off the Nvidia; because I changed it to "use Integrated graphics" when my GPU crashed before just to get online and try and trouble shoot the problem. I probably should check that and see if the shop set it back right. If they didn't; do I need to bring it back to them to see what the problem is?
Urgh.
I looked at the BIOS; it is not only still set up for integrated graphics (64 mb allotted) = but it is also set up for multiple screens although I only use one.
The primary graphics slot doesn't mention the GPU itself; it says "activate connector," and If I turn off the multi-screen function it automatically shuts down the integrated graphics and shows no GPU at all. Urk. I backed out without saving the changes; didn't know what to do.
I checked the Device Manager display devices = it showed both the GTX 1650 and the built in Integrated graphics (Intel HD Graphics 4600).
QUOTE(mALX @ Apr 19 2020, 03:25 PM)
I looked at the BIOS; it is not only still set up for integrated graphics (64 mb allotted) = but it is also set up for multiple screens although I only use one.
The primary graphics slot doesn't mention the GPU itself; it says "activate connector," and If I turn off the multi-screen function it automatically shuts down the integrated graphics and shows no GPU at all. Urk. I backed out without saving the changes; didn't know what to do.
I checked the Device Manager display devices = it showed both the GTX 1650 and the built in Integrated graphics (Intel HD Graphics 4600).
If your PC tells you it is running 'integrated graphics' and shows a picture on your monitor, it 'almost' certainly means your monitor is physically connected to the PC's integrated graphics socket. You need to switch the monitor cable to a socket on the Nvidia GPU. I recall that your monitor is quite old. If it lacks a proper receptacle to accept the output-socket cables provided by Nvidia, adapters are dirt-cheap and readily available.
Countering this is that if you need such an adapter surely whoever did 'repairs' would have provided, or at least mentioned, it. Then again, assuming you took in only the PC and didn't mention that your monitor uses only old-style connections, I can fully understand them not thinking to ask you about it, as such monitors are nowadays few and far between. This of course assumes I'm correct about a possible GPU-monitor cable mismatch, which might not be the case.
Hmmm...maybe... No, never mind. It's still entirely possible you simply need to move the existing cable connected to the Nvidia GPU input. Then again...
QUOTE(Decrepit @ Apr 19 2020, 04:46 PM)
QUOTE(mALX @ Apr 19 2020, 03:25 PM)
I looked at the BIOS; it is not only still set up for integrated graphics (64 mb allotted) = but it is also set up for multiple screens although I only use one.
The primary graphics slot doesn't mention the GPU itself; it says "activate connector," and If I turn off the multi-screen function it automatically shuts down the integrated graphics and shows no GPU at all. Urk. I backed out without saving the changes; didn't know what to do.
I checked the Device Manager display devices = it showed both the GTX 1650 and the built in Integrated graphics (Intel HD Graphics 4600).
If your PC tells you it is running 'integrated graphics' and shows a picture on your monitor, it 'almost' certainly means your monitor is physically connected to the PC's integrated graphics socket. You need to switch the monitor cable to a socket on the Nvidia GPU. I recall that your monitor is quite old. If it lacks a proper receptacle to accept the output-socket cables provided by Nvidia, adapters are dirt-cheap and readily available.
Countering this is that if you need such an adapter surely whoever did 'repairs' would have provided, or at least mentioned, it. Then again, assuming you took in only the PC and didn't mention that your monitor uses only old-style connections, I can fully understand them not thinking to ask you about it, as such monitors are nowadays few and far between. This of course assumes I'm correct about a possible GPU-monitor cable mismatch, which might not be the case.
Hmmm...maybe... No, never mind. It's still entirely possible you simply need to move the existing cable connected to the Nvidia GPU input. Then again...
No, I brought both the PC and Monitor and all connectors in to the shop (to have them check the monitor just in case).
Would the BIOS automatically set itself up for an additional monitor and on Integrated or would the repair shop have to have done that?
QUOTE(mALX @ Apr 19 2020, 04:46 PM)
QUOTE(Decrepit @ Apr 19 2020, 04:46 PM)
QUOTE(mALX @ Apr 19 2020, 03:25 PM)
I looked at the BIOS; it is not only still set up for integrated graphics (64 mb allotted) = but it is also set up for multiple screens although I only use one.
The primary graphics slot doesn't mention the GPU itself; it says "activate connector," and If I turn off the multi-screen function it automatically shuts down the integrated graphics and shows no GPU at all. Urk. I backed out without saving the changes; didn't know what to do.
I checked the Device Manager display devices = it showed both the GTX 1650 and the built in Integrated graphics (Intel HD Graphics 4600).
If your PC tells you it is running 'integrated graphics' and shows a picture on your monitor, it 'almost' certainly means your monitor is physically connected to the PC's integrated graphics socket. You need to switch the monitor cable to a socket on the Nvidia GPU. I recall that your monitor is quite old. If it lacks a proper receptacle to accept the output-socket cables provided by Nvidia, adapters are dirt-cheap and readily available.
Countering this is that if you need such an adapter surely whoever did 'repairs' would have provided, or at least mentioned, it. Then again, assuming you took in only the PC and didn't mention that your monitor uses only old-style connections, I can fully understand them not thinking to ask you about it, as such monitors are nowadays few and far between. This of course assumes I'm correct about a possible GPU-monitor cable mismatch, which might not be the case.
Hmmm...maybe... No, never mind. It's still entirely possible you simply need to move the existing cable connected to the Nvidia GPU input. Then again...
No, I brought both the PC and Monitor and all connectors in to the shop (to have them check the monitor just in case).
Would the BIOS automatically set itself up for an additional monitor and on Integrated or would the repair shop have to have done that?
BIOS settings can vary. Mine, for instance, offers three settings for its integrated graphics chip: 1) enabled/on, 2) disabled/off, 3) Automatic (switches between GPU and integrated as needed). Whether your BIOS offers those three options I can not say. It might offer only enabled/disabled. Or something different. I'll read back through your earlier posts about this and see if I missed something.
Here's a thought. Right-click your desktop. It should bring up a menu with the option "Nvidia Control Panel." Open it. At the Panel's lower left corner should be "System Information." Open that. The new Panel should show your GPU and which of its drivers is installed.
Can you take a picture of the back of your PC and show it to us?
QUOTE(SubRosa @ Apr 19 2020, 07:01 PM)
Can you take a picture of the back of your PC and show it to us?
This. If we can see which connections are there- and which one is being used for the monitor- we will know if it just a matter of moving the monitor cable to a different port.
QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Apr 19 2020, 07:03 PM)
Wow, look at those old IDE ribbon cables. That must be an old computer.
QUOTE(SubRosa @ Apr 19 2020, 07:11 PM)
QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Apr 19 2020, 07:03 PM)
Wow, look at those old IDE ribbon cables. That must be an old computer.
Circa 2003, I guess. It was a Dell.
QUOTE(Decrepit @ Apr 19 2020, 06:31 PM)
QUOTE(mALX @ Apr 19 2020, 04:46 PM)
QUOTE(Decrepit @ Apr 19 2020, 04:46 PM)
QUOTE(mALX @ Apr 19 2020, 03:25 PM)
I looked at the BIOS; it is not only still set up for integrated graphics (64 mb allotted) = but it is also set up for multiple screens although I only use one.
The primary graphics slot doesn't mention the GPU itself; it says "activate connector," and If I turn off the multi-screen function it automatically shuts down the integrated graphics and shows no GPU at all. Urk. I backed out without saving the changes; didn't know what to do.
I checked the Device Manager display devices = it showed both the GTX 1650 and the built in Integrated graphics (Intel HD Graphics 4600).
If your PC tells you it is running 'integrated graphics' and shows a picture on your monitor, it 'almost' certainly means your monitor is physically connected to the PC's integrated graphics socket. You need to switch the monitor cable to a socket on the Nvidia GPU. I recall that your monitor is quite old. If it lacks a proper receptacle to accept the output-socket cables provided by Nvidia, adapters are dirt-cheap and readily available.
Countering this is that if you need such an adapter surely whoever did 'repairs' would have provided, or at least mentioned, it. Then again, assuming you took in only the PC and didn't mention that your monitor uses only old-style connections, I can fully understand them not thinking to ask you about it, as such monitors are nowadays few and far between. This of course assumes I'm correct about a possible GPU-monitor cable mismatch, which might not be the case.
Hmmm...maybe... No, never mind. It's still entirely possible you simply need to move the existing cable connected to the Nvidia GPU input. Then again...
No, I brought both the PC and Monitor and all connectors in to the shop (to have them check the monitor just in case).
Would the BIOS automatically set itself up for an additional monitor and on Integrated or would the repair shop have to have done that?
BIOS settings can vary. Mine, for instance, offers three settings for its integrated graphics chip: 1) enabled/on, 2) disabled/off, 3) Automatic (switches between GPU and integrated as needed). Whether your BIOS offers those three options I can not say. It might offer only enabled/disabled. Or something different. I'll read back through your earlier posts about this and see if I missed something.
Here's a thought. Right-click your desktop. It should bring up a menu with the option "Nvidia Control Panel." Open it. At the Panel's lower left corner should be "System Information." Open that. The new Panel should show your GPU and which of its drivers is installed.
Okay, here is what it said:
https://imgur.com/a/iXswFXp
QUOTE(SubRosa @ Apr 19 2020, 07:01 PM)
Can you take a picture of the back of your PC and show it to us?
I don't have a way to take a pic of it; but it does look different back there since it came back from the shop than it did when I sent it there. It is missing one of those slot covers and the place where you hook up the monitor and HDMI cable seems to look different now. (and not just because it is cleaner since the shop worked on it).
QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Apr 19 2020, 07:03 PM)
GAAAAAH!!! Not on that gorgeous carpet! Won't the rug get lint onto the computer parts?
QUOTE(treydog @ Apr 19 2020, 07:55 PM)
QUOTE(SubRosa @ Apr 19 2020, 07:01 PM)
Can you take a picture of the back of your PC and show it to us?
This. If we can see which connections are there- and which one is being used for the monitor- we will know if it just a matter of moving the monitor cable to a different port.
There is only one place for THIS monitor to hook to it; this monitor has those really old connectors = sort of like the blue one on the left here; except older; flatter; wider:
https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/edecfe33-a...mp;odnBg=ffffff
and the back of the monitor only has one place for that hookup.
QUOTE(Decrepit @ Apr 19 2020, 06:31 PM)
BIOS settings can vary. Mine, for instance, offers three settings for its integrated graphics chip: 1) enabled/on, 2) disabled/off, 3) Automatic (switches between GPU and integrated as needed). Whether your BIOS offers those three options I can not say. It might offer only enabled/disabled. Or something different. I'll read back through your earlier posts about this and see if I missed something.
Here's a thought. Right-click your desktop. It should bring up a menu with the option "Nvidia Control Panel." Open it. At the Panel's lower left corner should be "System Information." Open that. The new Panel should show your GPU and which of its drivers is installed.
My BIOS only offers the options to Enable or Disable; that is it.
But someone mentioned (and I can't seem to find it right now) = someone mentioned that if the Device Manager showed a picture of the monitor by the Integrated Graphics that it was being used =
It is showing a picture of the monitor in front of BOTH the GTX 1650 and the Intel HD 4600.
If you found Device Manager, then look at the Monitors entry. Double click on the device and it pops up a dialog that tells you its Location: I.e. which adapter it's plugged into.
E.g. on my system: it looks like this. (without the red box, ofcourse)
When I checked the images of all the GTX1650 cards on the nVidia site, none of them had VGA connectors (the blue ones), and half didn't have DVI (the white ones) either.
And yes, that's an older card then your defunct one. It probably is lasting well because it's on the liquid-cooling circuit. I have two of them, and even back then, it came with DVI/HDMI/Display Port sockets, but no VGA.
E.g. on my system: it looks like this. (without the red box, ofcourse)
When I checked the images of all the GTX1650 cards on the nVidia site, none of them had VGA connectors (the blue ones), and half didn't have DVI (the white ones) either.
And yes, that's an older card then your defunct one. It probably is lasting well because it's on the liquid-cooling circuit. I have two of them, and even back then, it came with DVI/HDMI/Display Port sockets, but no VGA.
QUOTE(ghastley @ Apr 19 2020, 10:17 PM)
If you found Device Manager, then look at the Monitors entry. Double click on the device and it pops up a dialog that tells you its Location: I.e. which adapter it's plugged into.
E.g. on my system: it looks like this. (without the red box, ofcourse)
When I checked the images of all the GTX1650 cards on the nVidia site, none of them had VGA connectors (the blue ones), and half didn't have DVI (the white ones) either.
And yes, that's an older card then your defunct one. It probably is lasting well because it's on the liquid-cooling circuit. I have two of them, and even back then, it came with DVI/HDMI/Display Port sockets, but no VGA.
I don't know what it would have said before; because several hours ago I went into the BIOS advanced settings and disabled the integrated graphics and the "Multiple Monitors" setting = got back in game and instead of all the low settings I was able to put it on Medium = it played just fine and it looked A LOT better! So I think that was the problem. I don't know why he had it set up like that; but I don't think it was using everything the NVidia card had to offer the way it was set up = maybe that is why it was "slowing down" my computer and making me use just basic colors yesterday.
Spent much of yesterday afternoon 'updating' my secondary PC's Win10 install to v1909 plus fixes. Did little with that computer afterward other than check to see if I needed to reset custom settings...I didn't. My main PC still runs v1903. I'll not force it to update.
Also uploaded a 21min 1440p YouTube video (via my primary PC). I knew it was gonna take extra time at that length, so started early, somewhere between 1815-1830. It didn't finish uploading until roughly 0630 this morning. Twelve whole hours for 21mins of viewing. With my internet worthless for anything else that whole time. Even now (roughly 0920), HD (high-definition) mode isn't processed. The video isn't scheduled to go public until tomorrow morning, so breathing room. To the plus, the internet portion of my AT&T monthly bill is around $35US, and allows me all the YouTube video watching, at 1080p, I can realistically consume within a given billing period without coming anywhere close to my data cap.
Almost forgot my original reason to post this. Installed a new (to me) Firefox add-on yesterday, on the secondary PC (before 'updating' it). It purports to de-mainstream YouTube, an aim greatly to my liking. Its goal is for mainstream news channels and etc. to no longer appear among search results. I gave it only a short audition (but left it installed). Results were underwhelming. However, the add-on is fairly recent. It'll hopefully improve.
ADDENDUM: the video's HD mode finished processing sometime before 1000.
Also uploaded a 21min 1440p YouTube video (via my primary PC). I knew it was gonna take extra time at that length, so started early, somewhere between 1815-1830. It didn't finish uploading until roughly 0630 this morning. Twelve whole hours for 21mins of viewing. With my internet worthless for anything else that whole time. Even now (roughly 0920), HD (high-definition) mode isn't processed. The video isn't scheduled to go public until tomorrow morning, so breathing room. To the plus, the internet portion of my AT&T monthly bill is around $35US, and allows me all the YouTube video watching, at 1080p, I can realistically consume within a given billing period without coming anywhere close to my data cap.
Almost forgot my original reason to post this. Installed a new (to me) Firefox add-on yesterday, on the secondary PC (before 'updating' it). It purports to de-mainstream YouTube, an aim greatly to my liking. Its goal is for mainstream news channels and etc. to no longer appear among search results. I gave it only a short audition (but left it installed). Results were underwhelming. However, the add-on is fairly recent. It'll hopefully improve.
ADDENDUM: the video's HD mode finished processing sometime before 1000.
QUOTE(Decrepit @ Apr 24 2020, 04:39 PM)
Spent much of yesterday afternoon 'updating' my secondary PC's Win10 install to v1909 plus fixes. Did little with that computer afterward other than check to see if I needed to reset custom settings...I didn't. My main PC still runs v1903. I'll not force it to update.
Glad to see you taking care of your backup too, Decrepit! Took mine out for a spin last Saturday and it feels great knowning it's up-to-date on browser, savegames, antivirus etc
QUOTE(mALX @ Apr 20 2020, 01:00 AM)
QUOTE(ghastley @ Apr 19 2020, 10:17 PM)
If you found Device Manager, then look at the Monitors entry. Double click on the device and it pops up a dialog that tells you its Location: I.e. which adapter it's plugged into.
E.g. on my system: it looks like this. (without the red box, ofcourse)
When I checked the images of all the GTX1650 cards on the nVidia site, none of them had VGA connectors (the blue ones), and half didn't have DVI (the white ones) either.
And yes, that's an older card then your defunct one. It probably is lasting well because it's on the liquid-cooling circuit. I have two of them, and even back then, it came with DVI/HDMI/Display Port sockets, but no VGA.
I don't know what it would have said before; because several hours ago I went into the BIOS advanced settings and disabled the integrated graphics and the "Multiple Monitors" setting = got back in game and instead of all the low settings I was able to put it on Medium = it played just fine and it looked A LOT better! So I think that was the problem. I don't know why he had it set up like that; but I don't think it was using everything the NVidia card had to offer the way it was set up = maybe that is why it was "slowing down" my computer and making me use just basic colors yesterday.
Well, this did not fix the issue; the computer continues having the problem/warning that the computer was "slowing down" and keeps having me shut down the color scheme to the lowest setting (even though I haven't changed it since the last warning). So far it only happens when I am playing ESO; but ...
Anyway; I called the shop yesterday. They want me to bring it back in. It is supposed to have 16 gig of RAM without even counting the dedicated memory that the new graphics card is supposed to have = it should not be doing this.
So it looks like I'm going to be without my PC again starting Monday.
Aww, sorry, mALX. I hope your puter's visit to the shoppe is quick and productive.
@mALX
I tried looking over old posts on this topic but didn't notice the one where you first mention getting "slowing down" messages. Refresh me. What program is telling you that?
I begin to wonder if you run a piece of misbehaving software, or have a virus or maleware. Something seems fishy with Firefox totally disappearing and Chrome not working. I can't think of any reason for that beyond foul play. Also, who or what is the 'repair shop' you take your PC to?
I tried looking over old posts on this topic but didn't notice the one where you first mention getting "slowing down" messages. Refresh me. What program is telling you that?
I begin to wonder if you run a piece of misbehaving software, or have a virus or maleware. Something seems fishy with Firefox totally disappearing and Chrome not working. I can't think of any reason for that beyond foul play. Also, who or what is the 'repair shop' you take your PC to?
QUOTE(Decrepit @ Apr 25 2020, 01:19 PM)
@mALX
I tried looking over old posts on this topic but didn't notice the one where you first mention getting "slowing down" messages. Refresh me. What program is telling you that?
I begin to wonder if you run a piece of misbehaving software, or have a virus or maleware. Something seems fishy with Firefox totally disappearing and Chrome not working. I can't think of any reason for that beyond foul play. Also, who or what is the 'repair shop' you take your PC to?
It is a window that pops up = so far it only happens while I am playing ESO; which is a resource-eating game.
I also wondered if it could have been some virus because I wondered if it was like sending out info while I was gaming or something. I checked the Task Manager; but it was after I had shut down the game. The biggest resources being used when I checked were from LibreOffice and Steam = both of them were shut off at the time; and I was in Full Screen mode so nothing should have been running. (I keep Steam in "Offline" mode all the time).
The computer repair shop is the same guy I have used for two decades for all my computers. He is an older man that has been repairing computers since Windows 3.11 and has two employees that assist him on his repairs and the front counter. One of them is an avid gamer; so I usually go straight to him when I go in.
In all the years I have been bringing my computers and laptops to this man; this is the first time I've ever had anything not working after I picked it up from him.
I know the kid tested the new GPU after putting it in; he made me wait an extra day to pick it up to make sure it was tested; and he tested it against another resource intensive game (Fallout 4). So I really don't know what is going on with it to cause this. It has 16 gig of ram installed; and that graphics card is supposed to have 4 gig dedicated.
Here is a copy of the exact message I keep getting:
https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/upload...c7934f49efe.jpg
and then when I click on it, I get this:
https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/upload...c78dc554b96.jpg
This article is discussing the same issue someone (who also has Windows 7 Pro 64 bit) was also having:
https://www.howtogeek.com/131059/how-can-i-...mance-warnings/
https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/upload...c7934f49efe.jpg
and then when I click on it, I get this:
https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/upload...c78dc554b96.jpg
This article is discussing the same issue someone (who also has Windows 7 Pro 64 bit) was also having:
https://www.howtogeek.com/131059/how-can-i-...mance-warnings/
Well, I did discover one thing wrong = the new NVidia card was set up differently than my previous card. I expected my settings to remain unchanged; but they were changed from my preference being fully on "Performance" to fully on "Quality." I fixed that; will see if that fixes the issue.
I seem to recall that you can turn off the "Aero" setting on your windows to improve graphics performance - it controls the transparency of your desktop windows as I recall correctly. I can't remember where you would find it - under Display in your settings?
Don't know if that would help, but that's what came to mind when I saw your screenshot of the error message.
Don't know if that would help, but that's what came to mind when I saw your screenshot of the error message.
QUOTE(haute ecole rider @ Apr 26 2020, 12:15 PM)
I seem to recall that you can turn off the "Aero" setting on your windows to improve graphics performance - it controls the transparency of your desktop windows as I recall correctly. I can't remember where you would find it - under Display in your settings?
Don't know if that would help, but that's what came to mind when I saw your screenshot of the error message.
I haven't found a way to turn it off yet; will keep looking. Changing the setting to full "Performance" last night helped some; I was able to play for a couple hours (on the lowest settings) before it crashed. I am really sick and scared that I might not be able to afford to get another computer that will run ESO and Fallout 4 if I can't get this one fixed. My laptop can't play either one; and can barely handle Fallout 3 & New Vegas.
Anyone having issues with YouTube videos? Since returning home from hospital testing yesterday (9 Jun 2020) whenever I click on a video thumbnail, that video at first doesn't load. I get a vague text message in the video view window instead. All I need to do is refresh the page and the video plays normally without fail. So it's not a showstopping issue. But it is an annoyance. To my knowledge, I did nothing whatever to trigger this odd behavior. Nor do I recall either Windows are any other software updating itself within the timeframe in question. (There is always the chance of a stealth update, I suppose.)
QUOTE(Decrepit @ Jun 10 2020, 10:16 AM)
Anyone having issues with YouTube videos? Since returning home from hospital testing yesterday (9 Jun 2020) whenever I click on a video thumbnail, that video at first doesn't load. I get a vague text message in the video view window instead. All I need to do is refresh the page and the video plays normally without fail. So it's not a showstopping issue. But it is an annoyance. To my knowledge, I did nothing whatever to trigger this odd behavior. Nor do I recall either Windows are any other software updating itself within the timeframe in question. (There is always the chance of a stealth update, I suppose.)
If it is YouTube it is more likely that THEY updated something on their end. If it is them asking you if you want a "free trial" or to sign up now for a YouTube membership = I've been getting that message for well over a year every time I try to watch a video. I used to be able to just escape it away; now I have to full screen the vid just to be able to see it because nothing else works to get rid of it anymore.
I think this is exactly what Photobucket did before they locked everything behind a pay wall.
QUOTE(mALX @ Jun 10 2020, 06:02 PM)
I think this is exactly what Photobucket did before they locked everything behind a pay wall.
Crikey! Don't scare me like that!
Just checked though and I don't have an issue as of yet.
@mALX
I get those 'membership' / trial messages too. This seems different, though you might be right that it a forewarning of something sinister. Let's hope it's just a fluke, either on their end or mine.
I get those 'membership' / trial messages too. This seems different, though you might be right that it a forewarning of something sinister. Let's hope it's just a fluke, either on their end or mine.
I get the trial messages on my phone. That's it. I haven't noticed any oddities on the computer on youtube.
What I have noticed, that's annoying, is that Skyrim doesn't detect my graphics card so the settings are set to low and keep resetting to low. -_-
What I have noticed, that's annoying, is that Skyrim doesn't detect my graphics card so the settings are set to low and keep resetting to low. -_-
Disk crash volume 2 yesterday.
Just like the first time it was imminent with me being unable to store / copy over any files on my own. A warning popped up on screen and that's it, the laptop shut down on its own.
Fortunately, my friend to which I brought my laptop, managed to save some data - he rescued all my personal stuff, but I don't yet know, how much of gaming stuff was rescued, for instance I don't know if save files were rescued or not. I have some backup files but they go way back. I'm not concerned about pics, because all of them are on Imgur as well. So let's hope for the best.
I'm supposed to get the laptop back today or tomorrow.
The first disk crash was on my previous Dell laptop, when it was 7 or 8 years old. This one was on a 2yrs old Lenovo laptop.
Just like the first time it was imminent with me being unable to store / copy over any files on my own. A warning popped up on screen and that's it, the laptop shut down on its own.
Fortunately, my friend to which I brought my laptop, managed to save some data - he rescued all my personal stuff, but I don't yet know, how much of gaming stuff was rescued, for instance I don't know if save files were rescued or not. I have some backup files but they go way back. I'm not concerned about pics, because all of them are on Imgur as well. So let's hope for the best.
I'm supposed to get the laptop back today or tomorrow.The first disk crash was on my previous Dell laptop, when it was 7 or 8 years old. This one was on a 2yrs old Lenovo laptop.
Yikes, Lopov! I hope your little puter comes back okay. 
Yikes indeed.
Here's hoping it gets fixed!
Here's hoping it gets fixed!
Good luck, Lopov! Let's hope you get those save files and that you remember to back them up more frequently from here on out... 
Everything's been saved, I only need to reinstall the games.
Phew.
Phew.
Sweet!
So... maybe back them up now..?
So... maybe back them up now..?
Phew is right. Great news! 
*Mr Burns* Excellent.
QUOTE(mirocu @ Jun 11 2020, 12:48 PM)
Sweet!
So... maybe back them up now..?
And use a trusted, reliable method of recording, like clay tablets, or knotted string. Lasts for thousands of years, although you may have problems with unit capacity.
Lol ghastley
New developments with my YouTube video 'issue'. I discovered that if I leave a video alone long enough the error message goes away and the video begins to play on its own as normal. (It's still faster to simply refresh the page.) And now, starting today, I'm getting videos that begin with a soft white screen, with small timer in the lower left corner, and a clickable 'skip adds' option screen-right. Never seen that before. Not all videos begin with the soft-white screen...yet. My guess is that the 'issue' and this new opening screen are related.
QUOTE(Lopov @ Jun 11 2020, 06:24 AM)
Disk crash volume 2 yesterday.
Just like the first time it was imminent with me being unable to store / copy over any files on my own. A warning popped up on screen and that's it, the laptop shut down on its own.
Fortunately, my friend to which I brought my laptop, managed to save some data - he rescued all my personal stuff, but I don't yet know, how much of gaming stuff was rescued, for instance I don't know if save files were rescued or not. I have some backup files but they go way back. I'm not concerned about pics, because all of them are on Imgur as well. So let's hope for the best.
I'm supposed to get the laptop back today or tomorrow.The first disk crash was on my previous Dell laptop, when it was 7 or 8 years old. This one was on a 2yrs old Lenovo laptop.
That is really too soon for the laptop to be crashing. I hope they were able to get everything most valued from the old drive for you. If the man who repairs it is a gamer; that is the first thing they will think to save, lol. QUOTE(Lopov @ Jun 11 2020, 12:40 PM)
Everything's been saved, I only need to reinstall the games.
Phew.
WOO HOO!!! WHEW !!!!
QUOTE(Decrepit @ Jun 12 2020, 06:50 PM)
New developments with my YouTube video 'issue'. I discovered that if I leave a video alone long enough the error message goes away and the video begins to play on its own as normal. (It's still faster to simply refresh the page.) And now, starting today, I'm getting videos that begin with a soft white screen, with small timer in the lower left corner, and a clickable 'skip adds' option screen-right. Never seen that before. Not all videos begin with the soft-white screen...yet. My guess is that the 'issue' and this new opening screen are related.
I really don't like the sound of that at all; urgh. I'm not sure (because it has been so many years since my YouTube changed) - but it does sound a bit like the progression my YouTube took too. I refused to click on anything new they added just in case (because my eyesight isn't good enough to read the address bar and make sure my page hadn't been hijacked or something).
Anyway; nothing I did or didn't do changed what YouTube had planned; which was a way to make money off the vids (either through advertising or by members paying to avoid seeing the ads).
Now all my vids run ads before, during, and after all vids playing. A regular ten minute vid has an ad every minute or so; and each ad has a countdown period of a few seconds where you are forced to watch the ad before you can click on a black button that says "skip ad."
(and their white box trying to talk me into a "free trial membership blocks my viewing of all vids unless I put the vid into "full screen" mode).
QUOTE(mALX @ Jun 13 2020, 04:31 AM)
QUOTE(Decrepit @ Jun 12 2020, 06:50 PM)
New developments with my YouTube video 'issue'. I discovered that if I leave a video alone long enough the error message goes away and the video begins to play on its own as normal. (It's still faster to simply refresh the page.) And now, starting today, I'm getting videos that begin with a soft white screen, with small timer in the lower left corner, and a clickable 'skip adds' option screen-right. Never seen that before. Not all videos begin with the soft-white screen...yet. My guess is that the 'issue' and this new opening screen are related.
I really don't like the sound of that at all; urgh. I'm not sure (because it has been so many years since my YouTube changed) - but it does sound a bit like the progression my YouTube took too. I refused to click on anything new they added just in case (because my eyesight isn't good enough to read the address bar and make sure my page hadn't been hijacked or something).
Anyway; nothing I did or didn't do changed what YouTube had planned; which was a way to make money off the vids (either through advertising or by members paying to avoid seeing the ads).
Now all my vids run ads before, during, and after all vids playing. A regular ten minute vid has an ad every minute or so; and each ad has a countdown period of a few seconds where you are forced to watch the ad before you can click on a black button that says "skip ad."
(and their white box trying to talk me into a "free trial membership blocks my viewing of all vids unless I put the vid into "full screen" mode).
Hmmmm...I thought you switched to Firefox a while back. If so you ought to run a good adblocker, which 'should' get rid of much that you mention here. Except maybe the new white opening screen, I suppose. I use Adblocker Ultimate, but there are others.
QUOTE(Decrepit @ Jun 13 2020, 05:41 AM)
QUOTE(mALX @ Jun 13 2020, 04:31 AM)
QUOTE(Decrepit @ Jun 12 2020, 06:50 PM)
New developments with my YouTube video 'issue'. I discovered that if I leave a video alone long enough the error message goes away and the video begins to play on its own as normal. (It's still faster to simply refresh the page.) And now, starting today, I'm getting videos that begin with a soft white screen, with small timer in the lower left corner, and a clickable 'skip adds' option screen-right. Never seen that before. Not all videos begin with the soft-white screen...yet. My guess is that the 'issue' and this new opening screen are related.
I really don't like the sound of that at all; urgh. I'm not sure (because it has been so many years since my YouTube changed) - but it does sound a bit like the progression my YouTube took too. I refused to click on anything new they added just in case (because my eyesight isn't good enough to read the address bar and make sure my page hadn't been hijacked or something).
Anyway; nothing I did or didn't do changed what YouTube had planned; which was a way to make money off the vids (either through advertising or by members paying to avoid seeing the ads).
Now all my vids run ads before, during, and after all vids playing. A regular ten minute vid has an ad every minute or so; and each ad has a countdown period of a few seconds where you are forced to watch the ad before you can click on a black button that says "skip ad."
(and their white box trying to talk me into a "free trial membership blocks my viewing of all vids unless I put the vid into "full screen" mode).
Hmmmm...I thought you switched to Firefox a while back. If so you ought to run a good adblocker, which 'should' get rid of much that you mention here. Except maybe the new white opening screen, I suppose. I use Adblocker Ultimate, but there are others.
I don't remember what happened; but I never did make the switchover to Firefox. I know one of the main issues with Firefox was that I couldn't zoom the screen high enough to see anything. There was some code I could put in that was supposed to fix that; but it didn't zoom it over 150 or 200%; and didn't work for the entire page; just certain segments of it. I couldn't see the address bar; any of the tabs; or read any of the drop down menus at all; and couldn't change the size of the print on them or zoom in on them at all.
Chrome is kind of set up for people with eyesight issues. The zoom of the entire page can be taken as high as 500% and there is a way to set up the tabs/menus/etc with a larger font.
These ads at YouTube are actually on the YouTube vid player itself; they are not "pop ups" or anything.
QUOTE(mALX @ Jun 13 2020, 05:18 AM)
I don't remember what happened; but I never did make the switchover to Firefox. I know one of the main issues with Firefox was that I couldn't zoom the screen high enough to see anything. There was some code I could put in that was supposed to fix that; but it didn't zoom it over 150 or 200%; and didn't work for the entire page; just certain segments of it. I couldn't see the address bar; any of the tabs; or read any of the drop down menus at all; and couldn't change the size of the print on them or zoom in on them at all.
Chrome is kind of set up for people with eyesight issues. The zoom of the entire page can be taken as high as 500% and there is a way to set up the tabs/menus/etc with a larger font.
These ads at YouTube are actually on the YouTube vid player itself; they are not "pop ups" or anything.
There is an add-on called Zoom Page WE that gives Firefox something similar to what you say Chrome does. I've had it installed for ages but never use it, so don't know how sophisticated it is. After reading your response, on a lark I launched YouTube and had the add-on enlarge YT to 300%, its highest magnification. Admittedly, it seemed as if the page didn't 'reformat' (?) itself after expansion, but I didn't give it close scrutiny so could be wrong. Nor did I open the add-on's options menu and see what can be done with it.
Yes, the ads Adblocker Ultimate and its brethren remove are both pop-ups and those embedded by YouTube within videos. (Except, of course, when a creator creates his/her on self-ad as part of a video. Can't do anything about those except click the video beyond where the ad ends.)
QUOTE(Decrepit @ Jun 13 2020, 07:38 AM)
QUOTE(mALX @ Jun 13 2020, 05:18 AM)
I don't remember what happened; but I never did make the switchover to Firefox. I know one of the main issues with Firefox was that I couldn't zoom the screen high enough to see anything. There was some code I could put in that was supposed to fix that; but it didn't zoom it over 150 or 200%; and didn't work for the entire page; just certain segments of it. I couldn't see the address bar; any of the tabs; or read any of the drop down menus at all; and couldn't change the size of the print on them or zoom in on them at all.
Chrome is kind of set up for people with eyesight issues. The zoom of the entire page can be taken as high as 500% and there is a way to set up the tabs/menus/etc with a larger font.
These ads at YouTube are actually on the YouTube vid player itself; they are not "pop ups" or anything.
There is an add-on called Zoom Page WE that gives Firefox something similar to what you say Chrome does. I've had it installed for ages but never use it, so don't know how sophisticated it is. After reading your response, on a lark I launched YouTube and had the add-on enlarge YT to 300%, its highest magnification. Admittedly, it seemed as if the page didn't 'reformat' (?) itself after expansion, but I didn't give it close scrutiny so could be wrong. Nor did I open the add-on's options menu and see what can be done with it.
Yes, the ads Adblocker Ultimate and its brethren remove are both pop-ups and those embedded by YouTube within videos. (Except, of course, when a creator creates his/her on self-ad as part of a video. Can't do anything about those except click the video beyond where the ad ends.)
I haven't had any trouble with pop-up ads; I think Norton keeps them away. I think the way the ads on YouTube are done = I got the feeling it was part of their "trying to move everyone to a paid membership" thing = which actually; I wouldn't mind paying for a YouTube membership to keep the ads away as long as it was a reasonable amount (not like Photobucket's 400 per year; that was just plain BS).
I'm boggled by the YouTube thing because literally the only time I see that popup is when I'm on mobile.
I'm on Chrome with a couple ad blockers, but I don't think they're the reason.
I did just recently clean out husband's computer. He had half a cat and a full dust bunny!
I'm on Chrome with a couple ad blockers, but I don't think they're the reason.
I did just recently clean out husband's computer. He had half a cat and a full dust bunny!
Sigh. Once again my Firefox extension that gives me old youtube layout isn't working anymore. Tried two others but none work.
Help!
Help!
I think...I think that I might go over to the supreme gaming side and turn my pc into a gaming rig. I will become one of the Master Gaming Race 
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