That was my first choice, but I couldn't find a way to do it. You can click and drag the chat box, so that's what I moved. Are you using a mod that lets you configure the UI?

I might be; I really don't know if that loot thing is from an addon or the game itself, because it just suddenly started showing up a few months ago. I hadn't added any addons at the time, but always update them on Minion (so it could possibly be an addon and I just don't know it).

Have you tried going to: Escape/Settings/ - there might be a setting that lets you move stuff around on the UI in there.

If it is an addon = go to: Escape/Settings/AddOns and search through there, most do let you adjust their displays on the screen.

Or try just hitting the "Period" key (.) (not the one on your numerical pad, but on the keyboard itself) - that normally lets you grab stuff on the screen and move it about.

My loot display thing defaults on the lower right, chat box defaults on the lower left - but to be honest - I have no idea if that loot display is vanilla or addon.

So does anyone here ever put points in a second armor class and mix and match armors from different classes? Or is that generally considered a bad idea?

Yes. If you read the varying armor passives carefully, you'll see some passives help for each piece while some only help if you wear at least 5 of the same kind. Additionally, one of the high end passives for the Undaunted skills gives you some incentive to wear at least one of each kind.

Now, based on all that, most players wear at least 5 of their primary armor type. Some do that as 5/1/1, others as 5/2, as 6/1, and some others stay with simply 7.

Buffy, for example wears 6 light and 1 heavy (hidden helm). The helm not only boasts a lot more armor than its light counterpart, she puts points in the first 3 heavy passives which all help her health. Her light passives are all about magicka. She doesn't care (much) about stamina so the medium bonuses are not as valuable to her as another light piece. She doesn't really expect to go for those high end Undaunted passives and even if she did, the advantages are not dramatic.

Know also that armor 'big' pieces (head, chest, legs, shield) give you more effect from whatever they are enchanted with than the same glyph places on a 'small' piece of armor (hands, feet, shoulders, belt). Following that logic, many players trait their big pieces with infused to exploit the extra enchantment enhancement, preferring to boost their Mundus Stone (via the Divine trait) on their smaller pieces. That is probably sound advice for most builds. Those who worship critical hit % (stamsorcs for example) though, will often trait Divine on all armor. Best to have a basic understanding of why folks tend to do what they do, then analyze it against your own build/play style.

Some people do. Each type of armour favours different play styles, so it can be useful to mix and match. The thing to be mindful of is that some armour passive abilities require you to be wearing 5 or more pieces of that armour type.

EDIT: Heh, beaten to the punch

Misa has points in both Duel Wield and Bow.

Armour: Most def. She wears 5 pieces of medium; one of light and one of heavy.

In the early levels she wore heavy armor with the training trait (which back then actually did something for you) - got it up enough to take some good passives and get the one active (shield) upgraded so it worked with any armor type.

In light armor she had a training outfit of light to build up Light Armor enough to get certain passives; and until One Tamriel she was using it in the lower starter areas to level Light Armor up. One Tamriel blew the ability to do that, so that outfit got ground up. So I made her one piece of light at her level that she wears unless going up against world bosses - trying to grab those passives.

Armor passives are some very powerful assists to the Player.

Hmmm, very interesting! Mixing and matching armor is one of Khajiit's favorite things in the TES games! It is good to know this isn't discouraged in ES:O!

Most of the passives are your best defense, but only work if you are using the item or skill itself. So plan which passives will do you the most good; and plan your build - but only sink skill points in ones you are going to use.

On weapons - Misa is my most powerful character, and the one I want to play and do everything with. I wanted her to have a way to fight both ranged and melee; hence the bow and duel wield.

But when you don't specialize in one form of combat, you are stretching out those valuable and limited skill points.

Same with the armor. It helps you greatly to diversify to pull in health/magicka/stamina regen; but at a cost of skill points.

I discovered with Misa that at some point you run out of the ability to muster up more skill points; and I have sunk a lot of hers into crafting; so now I need to either dump all the crafting off her and respec her to strictly combat - or retire her to just a crafter and bring up a different character for combat.

I don't want to retire her, and there aren't enough skill points to have her a master crafter and also a combat Player. So right now she is in limbo while I take one of my bank mules and train him up for crafting. Once he can do it all, she will be respec'd into strictly combat.

I guess. I really enjoyed the idea of her being able to do it all.

Khajiit has been really focused with Mira. As of right now, all but two attribute points went in stamina (the other two went in health), she's focused only on sword and shield for offense, and all heavy armor. This one also put a bunch of points in blacksmithing (though Khajiit is wondering if some of those extra blacksmithing perks are worth taking).

With Misa - I didn't sink any points into leveling up her Blacksmithing/Woodworking/Clothier skill until she reached a level of 50 in it; but I did sink points in both using less tempers on improving and gaining more tempers from deconstructing very early on. You always need tempers, so using less and gaining more is important. She has always improved anything she uses to the best of her ability. From early on I've kept her in Legendary weapons and Epic armor. As soon as she became Veteran/Champion level I have made sure her armor was Legendary too.

By the way, if you need any special armor or metal weapons, Misa can do it right up until I respec her! (no charge, of course, unless you want them Legendary or something, lol).

Oh ok cool, we'll keep that in mind! Granted at Mira's low level (12) she can't use anything other than iron

This one is probably about to start a Khajiit Nightblade in earnest also.

Ooh, that sounds interesting!

Yeah. Just torn as to what weapons we want him to use. Really wish they had a single one handed weapon skill that isn't connected to shields.

I don't know, look at the passives/actives for the sword and shield - isn't there one to reflect damage? And once you reach Champion level, there is some good shield Champion Points to be used.

Nah you have to have a shield equipped for the abilities to work. Definitely don't want the Khajiit Nightblade to be a sword and shield user as Mira is already just that. Maybe we'll just go dual wield

I love duel wield for melee, it has the "spin to win" steel tornado!

Was just playing around with dual wielding in Coldharbour, picking on the poor Dremora (heh heh heh). It was fun, and Khajiit had only just picked the dual slash thing!

Going to sleep on it. This one has so many cool ideas for characters, but knows he can't do them all and it's interfering with decision making.

Well, you can have 8 characters per day and delete 3 per day; so feel free to experiment till you find what you want. I tested out each alliance and each class before settling on Nightblade as my favorite; Acadian tried Sorc first before falling in love with the Templar - find your own niche.

Khajiit played a Paladin in WoW as his main character, which this one imagines is similar to Templars. Will definitely be trying that at some point too.

Does anyone here have access to the Akaviri crafting motif?

I've got Soul Shriven, which has the Katana style curved blades.

Oooh! Do you have Ancient Elf?

Yes!

Boo, I was going to trade an ancient elf sword for one of you katana things. You can make Daggers in the soul shriven style?

*derp, Khajiit can't even use the ancient elf motif book yet, lol

You don't need to trade me for anything, I don't need a thing - in fact I'm constantly giving away stuff or grinding it up just to make room in my inventory.

(Not to mention, you probably can't get hold of my character's level items yet in game).

I will have to look up to see if Soul Shriven makes a dagger, I know they make swords because it is all Misa uses - one of the reasons I've wanted to make her the crafter, unless I can get Bubba past Molag Bal.

I would love to make you a dagger, just tell me what level you want! And no trading, just a Saturalia gift!








Tell me what level and style, Misa can make almost anything. If she can't do it, I'll let you know.

Ew, the Daggers are kris-ish. Not this ones favorite design. This one would like an iron Redguard scimitar of around level 12 or so, if it's not too much trouble!

the Soul Shriven style has some really cool looking weapons - I especially like the bows, swords, and staves. Pity the armour doesn't look as good.

A Redguard dagger, right? Okay, no problem!







Agreed. Their swords are my favorite in game of what I've seen so far. I love the early Redguard swords, but as the style levels up - not so much. Also love the Hollowjack swords and daggers, they are Awesome !!!

I don't like the ones that have blades shaped like snakes or fat blades.

Remember dual wielders need a twin set!




Khajiit doesn't like the "kris" style blades (like the Dunmer blades). Being a fan of both ancient-medieval European weaponry and also ancient-medieval Asian weaponry, this one has a great appreciation for blades of all shapes and sizes. Can't stand the kris style though.

OMG A HART MOUNT!! That would be sweet!

If you don't mind getting stabbed in the eye by the antlers . . .

I don't mind! It looks awesome.

Bahahaha!

^^^ this

Deer are so cool!

It is! My friend got it just minutes after it was announced and showed it off - awesome mount!

Khajiit may have to buy some crowns so he can get it just to have

Mira's Empress is a good looking horse though. Guess we need to try and find a tiger mount for Feng at some point.

It is very unique, unexpected! You will see one next time you are in game, that should send you running for crowns, lol.

We did see one today! It was glorious!


Also, changed the above comment.

A Cat, driving a Cat, riding a cat?

Aww boo, no tiger mount?

I saw a gorgeous = very rare one last night (same guy that had the new Hart elk) - he said he got the rare tiger in one of those crates !!! Almost made me run out and buy some, lol.

Aye, but that's a gamble of long odds ain't it?

That is what I said, but he begged to differ with me, lol. I was tempted, but ... saving up for my house; and possibly for that hinted at other news in Matt's End of Year statement.

I was really looking forward to the Deer mount, and it looks gorgeous, but 4500 crowns? noooooooooooooope. That's more than twice the price of most other mounts and 1500 more than the Orsinium expansion!

This is Khajiit's only hesitation. That's a lot of crowns

This may or may not matter to some, but the elk mount's appearance cannot be changed. That is, it comes as is and will not respond to hide horse equipment options. Nor will it change as you go above 20 in any of the mount training you pay for. So the way it looks out of the box is the way it stays. The official forums are a bit miffed about that as well as the big price tag.

There is also frustration on the forums about a couple other recent crown store items:

The Frostcaster motif requires mimic stones but only comes with 5 of them - not even enough to craft one full set.

The crown festival hood cannot be dyed and does not so advise prospective purchasers.


I saw folks complaining about these things and, sure enough Zenimax came onto the threads in each case and confirmed.

Wait... this game has horse armor?!

When you upgrade your mounts skills to a certain point your mounts get some cosmetics. Saddlebags for capacity, boots/foot wraps for speed, and armour for stamina.

You could wait a year, then spend triple that in "Crates" in the hopes of getting one!


But I'm with you, that is more than Wrothgar cost! A bit ridiculous.










Oh, this is a really good heads up, Acadian! I didn't know that about the Hart or the Frostcaster!