Thanks for those links. I almost fell off my chair when I saw Alix again. Ahh, nobody could weave a story like you could back in those old Beth forum days. That fishing looks awesome and is exactly the sort of thing the Beth should head down. Yes, have the factions quests, but also put some appropriate quests that suit each particular game world.

The Daedric investigation makes good role play and that is something like what Beth should have done. But make it so that each Daedric Lord is not happy that you are investigating each one and get the character to play one Lord off the other. Things like bringing one artifact into another realm is a big no no.

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The Fallout 4 map certainly does feel smaller than Fallout 3 but it is still much bigger than Point Lookout. I have not journeyed far across the map but my guess would be about 70-75% the size of number 3.

I am glad mALX, that you are feeling better about the game now. It is a really, really good game. Please take that from me. I would not say that if it wasn't true. But I would not buy the game on PC until the modders have fixed the UI and all the other console crap Beth ported. Ha!

The game world and combat is awesome fun. There is heaps more gore outside of VATS with ghoul body parts falling off as you shoot them. It is great! And Dogmeat rocks the show, pulling down ghouls to the ground by their clothing and helping you win the 'good fight.'

Just stay away from the rushed story.

Nice Shadows

Web Art

Ahh, sorry, wrong game

Okay, I have played around with the settlement building. I feel that it will be really successful with the console users as they have never had house buildings before. Others (....cough....cough.....SubRosa and mALX) will probably expect a more high quality finished to their homes.

I think I already saw one voice mod on the Nexus yesterday. I am sure more will follow. Certainly one to remove the player voice. That is not hard at all. Just record a second of silence, and use that to replace every player voice file. As far as the game knows its playing the voice. But you never hear it.

And here it is already, uploaded day one.

Animated hair is cool. Other games have had it for a while. So it is nice to see that. Do things like cloaks/long coats animate and wave around too?

Yep. Jenna found a raggedy coat that waves around a little when she walks.

Here’s something to consider. The headbob in first person makes me sick very quickly. I play mostly in third person but like to look closely at stuff in first. I am amazed that this idiotic gimmick is even included and disgusted that it can’t be disabled.

ADDED: The 1,000 names that Codsworth can say are for the character’s name, not the baby’s. For example if you name your character Steve, Codsworth will call you Mr. Steve. If he doesn’t know the name he will call you sir or ma’am. Fun tip from a video, not confirmed by me:

And I always find it crazy that these games can be completed in days and then you have to wait 2 years for the next one. At least with Beth games I am struggling to catch up (I am still only half way through Skyrim or NV).

And I always find it crazy that these games can be completed.

I finished Bioshock within a month. Well within a month actually, and I do include the time it took to order, recieve and install it

Yep. Jenna found a raggedy coat that waves around a little when she walks.

Here’s something to consider. The headbob in first person makes me sick very quickly. I play mostly in third person but like to look closely at stuff in first. I am amazed that this idiotic gimmick is even included and disgusted that it can’t be disabled.


ADDED: The 1,000 names that Codsworth can say are for the character’s name, not the baby’s. For example if you name your character Steve, Codsworth will call you Mr. Steve. If he doesn’t know the name he will call you sir or ma’am. Fun tip from a video, not confirmed by me:

mALX- That screenshot is Rise of the Tomb Raider. It is X1 exclusive for a short time and that is making PS4 owners upset. The detail on Lara is very nice. I am enjoying the game but it is still standard TR affair, too many set piece moments and cut scenes. Just give me a five level tomb and let me work it out myself, damn it.

I found my first Fat Man yesterday. Woo Hoo! Decided to leave it there and grab it if I need it later.

Here’s something to consider. The headbob in first person makes me sick very quickly. I play mostly in third person but like to look closely at stuff in first. I am amazed that this idiotic gimmick is even included and disgusted that it can’t be disabled.

The game finally finished downloading so I've been able to play it at last.

I'm just under 10 hours in. Got as far as Concord, got my power armour, and then ignored the main quest entirely. I've spent most of the time building up my settlement, and it's looking pretty cosy now.

Character creation was a bit underwhelming, especially in the hair department. Bethesda's character creation has never been top notch, and it doesn't feel as if they've tried to progress with it. There was literally 1 option for long hair on a man, and only 2 or 3 shoulder length options for a woman.

Aside from the very start of the game with that silly marriage and child situation, the game is super duper. Combat is good, visuals are fantastic, the world itself is really nicely done. The weapon and armour crafting/upgrading system is fun to tinker with, and the usage of materials means that you spend more time scavenging than in previous Fallout games.

Not much more to be said that others haven't already picked up on.

and the usage of materials means that you spend more time scavenging than in previous Fallout games.

Spot on there. I am spending all my time just scavenging with Dogmeat. Now let me see, does that item have copper, or screws.....lol.

Speaking of settlement building, I love the generators and running lines, heaps of fun. You can turn the power off from the generator itself or the light from a wall switch. It is neat that the generator is loud when close up but really quiet if you move away from it. Helps with sleeping, you see.

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Shame about that motion sickness. My Mum gets it bad in cars as a passenger. Me, not so much.

Interesting about the 3rd person.

The game is awesome in so many ways and I will happily sink hundreds of hours into this game. My goal is to surpass Mirocu's number of caps in FO3 and start my own bank at Boston.

Wow, is there a person in that wreck? Or is that just the side mirror or something? The people do not look concerned so it must be okay. Lol.

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I am over 20 hours now and I have been both pleasantly surprised and horrified by Fallout.

The game is awesome in so many ways and I will happily sink hundreds of hours into this game. My goal is to surpass Mirocu's number of caps in FO3 and start my own bank at Boston. Ha! With the trading and settlements I might even become some big shot property developer.

The downside is something that I will not spoil, other than to say that I have already seen two examples where Bethesda have blatantly stepped all the Fallout Lore from the early games. Yes, Beth has a right to make east coast the way they see fit, but I am still very, very surprised....

Eventually we are going to have to start a SPOILERS thread for FO4 like we have for Oblivion and Skyrim

I've renamed this thread to indicate no spoilers, making it complement mirocu's new spoilers thread.

I've also renamed the FO screenshot thread to indicate it is for FO3.

Whoever would like to post the next FO4 screenshot is welcome to create a new thread for FO4 screenshots.

Isn't NV considered an expansion of FO3, the way SI was for Oblivion, and Dragonborn for Skyrim? If not, I'd have expected the new game to be called FO5.

The FO3 screenshot thread now indicates it is for NV shots as well.

Edit: I'm happy to tinker with the title until it is what members want. If a single all inclusive FO related screenshot thread is preferred, we can do that. If a separate one for FO3/NV and another for FO4 is preferred we can do that.

My only concern with FO4 screens is accidentally having spoilers come up in the shared thread, not so much from what I post but from whatever discussion might follow. I didn’t plan to post character updates in the Wasteland/Mohave thread for the same reason. I wouldn’t want anyone to have to avoid those threads to keep from having FO4 spoiled for them.

Perhaps a Today in the Commonwealth (with spoilers) thread for unrestricted updates and screenshots? Or should we use spoiler tags in the shared threads and trust that people will move spoilerish discussion to the Fallout 4 – spoiler version thread?

Not really sure how an additional screenshot thread for spoiler conversations about the screens would be necessary. Screenshot threads are already open for spoilers because they can always show a scene someone else may not have seen yet. It is understood there may be spoilers found in screenshot threads.

(and there is already a thread for unrestricted conversation regarding FO4 that Mirocu started, so unsure why we would need another one).

I for one could go with having all Fallout screenies in one thread. But since I´m not even playing my vote doesn´t hold much weight, I guess.

Rather difficult question. We shouldn´t need two screenshot threads just for Fallout 4 but at the same time there´s a chance for spoilers... Maybe those entering the FO4 screenshot thread have to be prepared for spoilers or simply avoid it for the time being.

I also don't believe it's necessary to have spoiler/non-spoiler screenshot threads. Viewers should generally be aware that if they look at shots from other folks' games, they're likely to see spoilers.

The main quest is the only one I really don’t want to know about yet, and it’s easy enough to just stay away until I’ve played through it. If it lasts as long as some of the Skyrim faction quests that should take me… about five more minutes?

Oh, come on, Beth put in years of work on the Winterhold quest line and the Bard College.

It took a ton of developer effort to add a quest where we had to collect 1 drum and 1 lute.

I took it down because I thought the timing was not correct after the horrible events in Paris. Gaming has little to do with world events but is better to be sensitive to the feeling of others.

Also I noticed that the ghouls and raiders look strangely small when compared to the fence and building structures. It must be for some technical reason, not sure.

I will post it again soon. Glad you liked it.

Best wishes to your uncle, mALX.

It seems rather silly to talk about a video game in light of recent events, but given that the purpose of this thread is to discuss Fallout 4… well…

I got to play for about 10 hours over the weekend and all i've seen are Vault 111, Sanctuary Hills, & Concord. I don't care at all about the MQ. Apologies to Todd Howard and the team over at Bethesda, but if they want me to embrace the story they need to make it more compelling than what I can come up with just fooling around with the workshop. So far settlement building is the best thing about this game and it makes me want to run a pure Charisma build just to get the most out of the mechanic (that isn't really spoilerish, is it?).

The group that I have met so far are all pretty one dimensional as characters go, but I find that I care more about their well being than I do about the health of those that Bethesda tells me i'm supposed to care about. The good news is that, after 10 hours I am still barely scratching the surface of what this game has to offer!

The Lovely Mrs. Melarg[™] (who I daresay has never encountered a game that didn't provoke a condescending remark) has already dubbed Fallout 4 'Minecraft with junk'… but right now she's downstairs building a bar for her settlers!

That by itself should tell you that the game is worth getting.