They (Bethesda) seem to really be into making 200 year time gaps in between their games lately. It created some roleplay issues for bringing your characters from Oblivion to Skyrim; but maybe with all that radiation exposure Misa could have survived 200 years. It would explain why she is an old married woman. But I sure hope they don't limit how young we can make our characters in Fallout 4 like they did in Skyrim. I was really ticked off that my character was forced to be middle aged (and uglier than a two headed snake) till a modder could fix her when Skyrim first came out.









BWAAHAA!!!! Everyone wants it, lol.








Ditto this. I like the realism of deteriorating weapons and armor that needs repaired regularly.









How cool is that!!!! And WOW! That tram is immaculately clean, your air in Melbourne must be pristine !!!!

Fallout 3 was set in 2277, and New Vegas in 2281. So it's not a big jump. Here is the timeline. The 200 years you are thinking about is probably the time between the Great War (2077) and the beginning of Fallout 4 (2277). But there was always a huge time period between the war and the Fallout games. Fallout 1 was in 2161, so it was 90 years after the war. Fallout 2 was 2241, so it was 160 years later.

I did not miss removing the need to repair weapons in Skyrim one bit. Playing Oblivion it got to be really tedious how you had to repair your weapons and armor after every fight. It was fight, repair, fight, repair, fight, repair. It didn't enhance my roleplaying experience. It just annoyed me.

But in the Fallout games, one thing I like is that fact that everything is junk. Garbage and cast-offs are treasure in this universe. It is a hand-me-down world. Choosing your weapon based on how likely you are to find spare parts for it is part of the experience. So is using a gun that is falling apart in your hands. So I would not want to see weapon repair disappear. I was really disappointed how New Vegas made the Repair skill only matter for crafting. Anyone with a Repair of 10 could buy weapon kits and fix their gun up to 100 percent quality.

Oh, okay - much better then; I really don't like those huge time gaps between games in a series.

Ooooh, that timeline is Awesome! They even have the abductees on Mothership Zeta in there! Thank you for that link !!!

A weapon repair system is fine as long as it's well balanced. I still have nightmares about Far Cry 2 when you'd shoot a clip or two of pistol ammo and the gun would be covered in rust and likely to snap in half at any moment.

I thought Fallout 3's was just perfect; and the ability to use similar guns to repair others had the bonus effect of being able to repair your weapon while out in the field and emptying out your inventory some at the same time - great benefit for players who do a lot of long term exploring in the Wasteland.

I think Fallout 3´s weapons degrade maybe a little bit too fast. Then again, they weren´t pristine to begin with after so many years, so it´s fair I guess

I liked this too. I would always pick up the really common weapons like hunting rifles for loot, because I could repair them all into one that ended up with a high value, because its condition would be so high. It is a good weight to value strategy.

Yes, I pick up the Super Mutants' hunting and assault rifles; raider armor; Enclave laser guns, etc - repair as high as I can and sell.

And in the beginning of the game (before I started using your Awesome mod) - I used to repair armor to the highest level and if it got torn up in combat I'd just switch for one similar but in better condition; at least till I got a particular armor I wanted to keep on the majority of the time like the Reilly's Ranger armor or the Chinese Stealth.

The reason I mentioned the timeline is because I remember the huge debates at Beth forum. One camp said that it would be set before NV, the others said it would be just after. It was a east versus west thing and many people said the games would have little impact on what the other was doing with two separate timelines.

Jumping forward 10 years is really exciting for the main story as

I like SubRosa's comment about hand-me-down weapons. That is exactly what Fallout 3 felt like and the game worked perfectly. It would hate to see Fallout going the same direction as Elder Scrolls.

mALX- Yeah, Melbourne still has nice weather and little pollution, but things are changing fast. We are heading down the path of LA gridlock on our roads and will end up with 5 million population if the government has its way. I love astronomy and the clear sky is important to me so I am not happy.

Thanks Grits and Mirocu. The tram looks awesome!

You should show concerned groups pictures of the Amtrak trains in America side by side with that spotless tram; and think about all the lung disorders and cancer in America - they may think twice before allowing pollution to taint that gorgeous untouched land.


EDIT: WOO HOO! (on the spoiler), is that confirmed?

No, nothing is confirmed, but you bet your bottom dollar that is the reason they decided to push the game out a little.

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I have already watched some of the 'new' footage of the game. Zenimax is running them all down faster than the roadrunner. Nothing I saw ruins the enjoyment of day 1, however I was a little concerned that the hovering looting information does not show us the weight of the item we are going to take. That is madness. How will we know how much we can take? Perhaps the transfer button will give us that detail?

And the texture detail looks very steam punk to me. I am hoping that it is only the low resolution on the vids. I enjoyed it on Dishonored, Borderlands and Rage. But not here.

Ironsights looks fantastic though. And combat looks just as smooth in 1st or 3rd person. I am impressed.

Uh oh, I wonder if they are going to use "Inventory Slots" like ESO uses? Where you can carry a certain number of items and that is it; urk. It is really irritating in ESO because items don't stack, so you can barely carry anything. I hope not, that will be really aggravating.

I see weight listed in this screenshot


And another FO4 screenshot...

Oh good! Whew!

No, not there! I am talking about looting, not upgrading.



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Edit- Just saw a vid on the entire male customization.

Oh well, must stop searching for these vids. Ha!

And this is my current desk top pic. Credit to the author.

Nuka Cola

Double edit- The female customization is now out. I am refusing to look. Ha!

Maybe it´s Fallout 5?

Or maybe Chernobyl, it is hard to tell it from Detroit.

I just watched a basic starter build video since I am new to SPECIAL, and I am pretty excited. Most of my Fallout experience is looking for the damned door in Fallout 3 and then not wanting to shoot the mean dogs. I think I may be able to play this one!

I got the "Animal Friends" perk = no more mean dogs! They sit down beside you now, the Yao Gai make a purring sound and roll on their backs for the player to scratch their bellies - I love it!

Rank one = they won't attack the player anymore and act friendly (unless you attack them unprovoked, of course).
Rank two = they will defend the player against raiders/robots/super mutants (but not against other animals that you have attacked and provoked).

Ahh, I see the joke now. You would think after 6 years I would be adjusted to SubRosa's sense of humor.

Oh well, off to play some Mass Effect. One week to go!

Countdown Clock

Goodbye and enjoy the game people!

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And one last teaser before I go. This shows the size of the Fallout map in relation to the goggle map. Is is great to show us the size and scale of the game. Don't worry, the Fallout map is not full of locations.

Even so, do not click if you are concerned about spoilers.

Fallout Map

Spoiler alert-
And look what is located top right! Woo hoo!

Love that countdown clock!


Can´t help but feel Boston was an odd choice for the next Fallout game. Is there a specific reason they chose that area?

Oh, that map is great! And I normally love the countdown clocks too, but I'm not watching it this time (not going to be getting the game for a while).








They always pick places that are well known by everyone; even by people who have never been there. (The DC area; Las Vegas; now Boston - it fits right in).

Boston is such a hugely well known place historically that even people who have never been there know the landmarks.

I've never been to Las Vegas, but immediately recognized the strip and the military bases; and only been to DC a few times but knew all the landmarks. Same with Boston, was there once as a child and knew several landmarks there from class lessons in elementary school, etc.

Ah, thanks for the explanation

Even I knew about Boston but I never thought of it as big and well-known enough to make a game set in it.

It didn't look that big on the map WW linked, but it should still be awesome!

TBH, aside from its brief role in the American Revolution 200 years ago, I know almost nothing of Boston. Good Will Hunting, is about all I know aside from that, and that MIT and Cambridge are there. So Lexington and Concord, Boston Harbor and its so called Tea Party, The Battle of Breed's Hill (not Bunker Hill), Washington with his guns on Dorchester Heights I know.And The Constitution is anchored there. Otherwise I have no idea.

I know more about London, Paris, or Berlin and their landmarks than I do Boston.

I had to do an in depth paper on the Battle of Bunker Hill in school, and it got me interested enough that I joined a group 50 miles from my home that did Civil War reenactments of the battles. My role was as a nurse, bandaging up the wounded; but these enactments were spectacular! Everyone was in full costume; and the group I joined all owned horses (we rode together when there wasn't a reenactment to go to); so any mounted soldiers they represented were mounted for the reenactments. (and the meet was usually followed up by a big hoe down style square dance afterwards). A ton of fun!

I loved the history of Great Britain and France too, though!

Looks like Beth screwed up a gun again; in Fallout 4 the bolt on the bolt action rifles is on the left side.


The LEFT side, people! And yet you fire it like a right-handed person!!!





*cries in corner*



*stops crying in corner*


I know there are bolt action rifles made for left-handed people and all, but then you wouldn´t fire it from your right side for a bunch of reasons.

Sorry. I´ll stop this now. I just realized I´m not even getting this game anyway

I went to a Civil War reenactment once at Fort Wayne. It was pretty neat. They even had a cannon, which they fired a couple times. They only used about half the powder they normally would, and obviously no shot. But it was just deafening when that thing went off. And the cloud of smoke blanketed the field around it. I could only imagine the thunderous roar of hundreds of those things going off, and the bitter black powder-smoke that must have choked the air all around.

These people used some kind of powder in their muskets that made smoke and a loud bang too. Even the extra women who played as nurses got period nurse costumes to wear; and the uniforms for the soldiers were amazingly well made and realistic looking - they did not look neat and clean, either; they looked like they had actually seen some battles.

The first one I went to, I had to keep being prompted to treat the wounded, because it was hard to stop watching the battles and keep in character when stunned by how awesome it was seeing all that going on. I loved it; and it was SO much better done than the western type gunfights at Dollywood.

By the third one I went to, I had my roll down pat - learned from watching some of the other "nurses." It was still hard not to watch, but I learned how to keep my head bent over the wounded soldier and wrap his wounds while watching out of the corner of my eye, lol.

Well, today's Fallout 4 vid that came in my email looked really linear. I hope this is not the case, but won't find out for a while due to cancelling my order. So, I am interested in what everyone else has to say about it. Is it really open world or are we "steered" where Todd Howard wants us to go in it?

Also, anyone who did get it = feel free to start a spoiler thread so you can make me drool and regret my decision to wait on getting it, lol.

By the way, SubRosa: today's vid had several examples of the female Player's voice. I didn't link the vid because it makes every person enter their age regardless; so may as well just visit the official site for it.

If you watch it, I would be very interested in your impression from it. Mine was a lowering from my original opinion. The Player dialogue, the spoken lines = kind of like Witcher but with the ability to play a female; which means linear. The main quest may be forced on us like they tried to do with Skyrim.

If that is the case, I may bypass getting it at all, but I'm going to wait to hear from people who do get it.

One thing is clear, it will def require Steam for the PC version.





Also, someone said there would be no HardCore mode - but they do have something called "Survival" mode, (or was it "Survivor?" mode) - either way; which may be just a renaming of the HardCore mode.

The differences in the modes is supposed to be how many hitpoints the enemies require to be killed; and how many and how often legendary enemies spawn in your game.

This info courtesy of "Open World Games."

Here you are mALX, my early impressions-

The game is very, very good.

The graphics are very detailed. Destroyed buildings look so realistic now and it feels amazing to just explore the game world. Not sure about the 'linear video' as the game feels like a standard Beth game, follow the MQ if you want, ignore if you want. Link me the video so I can have a look.

My first thought as I walked around was 'what would Obsidian do with this puppy,' as the engine is really good.

Music has been changed up a lot from Fallout 3. Heaps more pipe music, chimes, a real atmospheric score that suits exploring a strange, new world. Radio stations are still there but I haven't tried them out much.

Dogmeat is fantastic. He feels just like a real dog now, running ahead of you, sniffing the ground, exploring things around you, yawning and showing you those big bad wolf teeth. The AI is simply amazing.

The number of weapons and the upgrading is staggering. I can now understand why there is no need for repairing of weapons. Each weapon has such a changing damage/range that adding weapon repair would probably just cause the game to explode!

I have not tried settlement building yet. It looks like that is the next mission that I will plan to do.

Pipboy light is way more powerful and feels good. The green light can be modified as you like and it gives a nice nighteye look.

The only part that I do not really like at this early stage is VATS. It doesn't stop time anymore, only slows it down. The % are changing as the enemy moves through VATS and it is something that doesn't really suit me. The % numbers and the targeted body parts are quite small on screen and that only adds to the awkward feeling. The gore also has a slightly more cartoon look so that is a shame.

I really loved VATS and the gore level in Fallout 3 so this one doesn't feel as good. Perhaps a modder will have a play around with it.

The ironsights is really smooth now so I found myself only using VATS when I really needed it anway.

And it is strange that when you equip a grenade it doesn't show you carrying it on screen. You just keep holding the gun and can throw the grenade by using another button.

In Skyrim they abandoned the whole 'use magic at the same time as having weapons equipped' so I am not sure what that might mean for TESVI.

Hit the thread with any questions you might you might have.

-Cheers.

Ooh, thanks for the review! Okay, this should be the link to the vid I referred to that made the game sound very linear via the dialogue:


https://www.fallout4.com/


One question I had = player houses?


Edit:


Sleeping? Eating?

I checked The Nexus and they already have a Fallout 4 site with two pages of mods. It is mostly graphics presets and ENBs, some desktop icons, and save games. The faces in the save games do look good. Much better than the vanilla characters in any other Bethesda game has ever looked. I guess they finally decided not to do stupid crap with the texture files like filling them with blocks.

I even downloaded the perk poster. You know, the one only people who pre-purchased the game are supposed to get...

I watched that trailer, and the synthetic at about 2:20 looked really cool. Why can't we play one of them?

Was that the pretty girl or that robot looking one?


Bold: "Thanks, Bethesda!"







Okay, the pretty girl is at 1:25. THAT is what I'd like to look like, lol. Where are these mods, can you link me up?

The game certainly does force the 'I am married with children part' on the player and that could certainly be a turn off for some. The MQ seems linear if you play the role of a married partner and it doesn't give you any chance to head another way.

My first character is happy to find out what happened after the vault so it feels okay at the moment.

I guess Beth always forces us to be some sort of hero. The Dragonborn was an annoying example.

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The higher the difficulty setting the higher the chance that Legendary enemies will appear in the game. I think that the enemies have some latent ability that comes out when they reach low hit points. Once killed they drop a legendary piece of equipment (weapon or armor).

There is no survival mode but it does have a cooking station very similar to Skyrim. Cooked Deathclaw meat, anybody?

Not sure about player houses. Still too early in the game. You come across settlement building quite early though. I will have a go at that today.

Edit- Reading around on the net the game does seem to be getting a roasting on PC. I am playing on Xbox 1 and the game (including the day 1 patch) feels great. PC could have a few issues before things get worked out.

Fallout 4 Nexus

SPOILER:


Beginning gameplay vid:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS4UfUFkpjI

Well, apparently a budget PC plays the game better than a PS4 or X-Box One. For once the Playstation runs it better than the X-box. Both console are locked at 30 FPS *boo* *hiss*, and drop down to 20 FPS at times.

And here is something nice. FO4 actually used more than one of your processors! The budget PC they tested on was a quad core, and the game was using all 4 cores. Bethesda finally realized that multi-core processors exist!

PC seems to be having problems with aiming and mouse sensitivity.

Compaints

Support

Now we´re probably gonna abandon that concept

Sounds like the game is getting positive reviews overall, though of course the only way to tell if you like the game is to play it for yourself. At my current download speed I should be able to play at some point on Friday or Saturday.

I'm still not sure what gender character I'll be going for. Usually in games with voiced protags (Mass Effect, Dragon Age) I've gone for a female character, but I have plenty of time to think about it I suppose.

One thing I did notice is that the male presets are heaps better than the female ones. Out of the 16 or so I only had one female that suited the wife look I was after.

So if you choose a female you will need to play around with the generator.

Man, Bethsoft is slow right now. I wonder why


Quite a lot of people in the Fallout 4 sections but I seem to recall much more when Skyrim was released.

They are too busy fighting off Dogmeat

It's time!!!

I noticed that in this beginning gameplay vid I'm watching, The males all looked great, and the females looked awful. I see me waiting for beauty mods before playing, like I did in Skyrim. I'll wait for SubRosa's help again like I did in Skyrim, lol. I still wouldn't be playing Skyrim if it wasn't for SubRosa helping me make my character look palatable.














I was kind of surprised that you have no control over the name of the baby, didn't Todd Howard say that they voiced in like hundreds of popular names just in case? Or was that for the Player character?

I saw plenty of good looking female save games over on the Nexus.

People have been having trouble downloading mods off Nexus; and since Bethesda is hosting its own modding site now; not sure if they are going to be cutting off Nexus and Steam Workshop or not. Pete Hines isn't sure either, according to his tweet:


http://i.4cdn.org/v/1446948354477.jpg