Yep, I forget how it plays out though. I like sneaking around back, cutting the power, and then trying to take them all out stealthily.

Yep. Been doing things stealthily since Deus Ex times so that approach came naturally to me. Never questioned it one bit.

Btw, Thaumaturgy and Animalism at highest levels = ridiculously OP

What Clan mixes those disciplines?

Oh, I meant Tremere's Thaumaturgy and Gangrel's/Nosferatu's Animalism. Didn't mean to intend one clan had both.

Lol, my bad, I misunderstood. I took it to mean those together were OP instead of each individually OP. I really like upper levels of Dementation too.

What I could never understand was Celerity. My understanding was that it would slow the world around you down while you moved normally, giving you the sense of moving at super speed. But all it did for me was slowing the world down and me as well so that sense of being fast didn't happen

Sold! Now I just gotta find the time to play...




To me it looks more like GTA from those times. Maybe it's the urban look in that video.

I think Khajiit meant the leveling up thing and general RPG elements. But otherwise I can see how you get a GTA feel from the atmosphere. Although it is no where near as free roaming and you cannot be openly violent and drive around hitting grandmas

Or drive cars for that matter. Best you can do is ride in a taxi…

But yeah, the RPG systems, the way dialogue works (that is actually really similar to Fallout3/New Vegas), the 1st and third person gameplay. The campiness is similar to GTA3-San Andreas.

Khajiit - Favourite hub and sub area?

Never played San Andreas, but Liberty City was actually my first real open-world game, before Oblivion "ruined" most other games on my end! But I mean... GTA simply cannot compare. We play a fixed character, haven't even got a choice of male or female. Oblivion was not just a step in the right direction for me, it WAS the direction I needed in 2008.

Huh? What's that? I'm off-topic? Dang. Always happens, doesn't it? Anyway, the fact I've got some options, even M or F, at the start of Vampire is wonderful.

I like the Chinatown area, but I’m very partial to Santa Monica. It’s the zone that made me fall in love with the game. So, Chinatown second. Fav sub-area would be Ocean House or Dr. Grout’s mansion. These are both very atmospheric zones and I enjoy playing through them every time (I know you are tired of Ocean House).


The only similarities between GTA3-San Andreas is some of the humor. Other than that, they aren’t really all that similar.

V:TM-B is definitely a fun game with lots of options for your character! Can’t recommend it enough. Get it on GOG and it includes the patch you need to play the game on modern systems.

Just a word of warning though: the combat can be a little janky, and thus takes a little getting used to.

You know, I was gonna say like always that Chinatown is my fave but you bring up a good point about Santa Monica. It's an interesting place, perfect to start at, and it had good music. I'm so conflicted here so I'll have to say it's tie for me on those hubs.

As much as I indeed am tired of Ocean House it really isn't bad per say. Think I've just played through this game too many times to the point it's become just another day at work, you know

But for my fave sub I think I'm gonna say Hollowbrook Hotel. Perfect for a Malk and interesting to finally go hunt some Sabbat!

Doesn’t that have the detestable zombies in it?

Not from what I remember. It just has a whole bunch of Sabbat. There is this second fight with Andrei at the end sure, but that fight is much easier than the first one so I don't mind.

You know, I think I’m thinking of the Brotherhood of the Ninth Circle building. Where you go to confront Bishop Vick.

Sort of suspected that. And yeah I don't like that place. Zombies are difficult, they spawn endlessly and Vick himself is a major pain

When I did that quest with Brigitte, she had way more trouble with Brother Kanker.

Really? Well, at least he's just the one enemy. Vick has his followers and he keeps celereting around like a little b - something

With Kanker I like to stun him whenever I can with VoD. It doesn't do a whole lot but it gives you a small breather and lets you attack him better.

I think I ended up spamming blood buff.

As a gun slinger that was not an option to me. Guess I could have used Auspex more when shooting but I didn't realize how important it was to the firearms skill. I thought it was only useful for spotting people through walls.

Yeah, I think my biggest problem was being too shy about using disciplines. Probably because of playing Ventrue first. Picky eaters could constantly run into low fuel problems. It’s pretty easy with other clans to “top off the tank”.

One issue I always had with disciplines is how many you end up having. Cycling through them all in the heat of battle and finding the right one while constantly fighting was horrendous

Yeah that could get a bit dicey. I typically just use one to open combat (like VoD or any of the “crowd control” ones) and then select whatever is going to make my attacks more effective.

Least favourite hub for me is Hollywood, hands down. Such a depressing place. I think this may be the reason I say Chinatown is my fave because coming to that from Hollywood really amplifies the niceness of Chinatown. Although Vesuvius is a nice place, I will admit... ...

Least fave sub area Ming Xiao's temple. It's just tedious.

I like Ming Xiao’s temple. I do not like the Ming Xiao fight though. *That* is tedious. Lol

I also agree about Hollywood. It is the weakest hub. I kinda feel like they got Santa Monica and Downtown done, but Hollywood was the starting point if where they had to start rushing the game.

Flamethrower. Takes out half of her health but you need to be fully stocked up on fuel.


I think Khajiit has a good point here. From that hub onward the game is way less talk-centric and more just about fighting. It's a clear distinction for sure. Then again, movies are often like this too; all talk in the beginning and then all fighting when things need to be sorted out.