$300 isn't a lot?!

I must be REALLY poor XD

With the PS4 coming out later this year, a PS3 might not be a good investment. Then again, they will probably sink a lot lower than $300 after the PS4 launches. You could probably pick one up dirt cheap then.

We´ll see

Considering that the PS4's memory architecture won't support backwards compatibility for PS3 games, if you want to play Skyrim you'll need to get a PS3 in any case. It may be worth waiting for the PS4 to come out, though if the pricing trends of the PS2 after the PS3 release are any indicator that won't significantly drive the price down.

Sure they´re not making it backwards compatible? In my world that´s a sales argument. Then again, I´m not a salesman...

I don't know for sure, but I highly highly doubt PS4 will have backwards compatibility with Skyrim (don't know about other PS3 games). I read something about the PS4 has hardware that is closer to the hardware found in a PC or something, meaning that it won't be as difficult for programmers to put new games on it.

But if I had to place a bet, I'm putting money on no backwards compatibility. So get a PS3 while it's cheap if you want to, but don't wait for the PS4. It'll be WAy overly expensive when it comes out, anyways.

I'd heard that they're going to a different CPU architecture. So the older games would have to run through an emulator, which would be very bad for performance - i.e. you might as well run them on your old box.

It's likely the CPU and GPU cores will be on the same die. AMD and Intel are both doing that, and nVidia talking about it.

The PS4 (and the next-gen Xbox) will be using CPU's that are PC-compatible, so the development systems will produce code that works on all of the platforms. The UI's will still need to be coded to match the controller/keyboard/mouse available, but the core engine will be common. It remains to be seen if Sony insist on platform exclusives and spoil that for the players.

In other words, soon we have games which will be 100% compatible with all systems which means we can just as well have only one system with different controller options.

I doubt that'll happen somehow... ...

Aaamywho...

Lady Saga, in the UK a brand new 500GB PS3 (which is the only size available in the largest high st. retailer at the mo) is a pence shy of £250...And insurance against its sudden death etc is just shy of £60 on top...I've seen Skyrim for £20, but it's most likely to be around the £30 mark...

I'm not sure about the exchange rate to see how expensive that would be in dollars, and I'm also not sure of what that would be where Microu is...But it's definitely not something you do lightly... ...



EDIT!!!...Sorry, called you by your old name!!...

Renee four...Renee four...Renee four...Sorry...

*laughs* It's okay McB! Call me Saga, call me Renee, it's all good. I just don't to call myself Lady Saga anymore. Not everyday, anyways. It just started to bug me and sounds a bit pretentious.



....meaning there is now NO excuse for the makers of PS3 and Xbox to not allow us consolites at least some access to the Construction Kit. This is what I am hoping, anyways.

ghastley: That's a good question with exclusivity. Hmm....

There will certainly be less excuse for stuff breaking in game.

I still don't see mods coming to the consoles though. They've got policies that limit the amount of downloads (patches/DLC) each game can have.

But do casual console gamers actually need that?

The business model for the consoles is to sell the hardware at a loss, and make the money on the software (games). Free content hurts the bottom line, so they try and prevent it. However, if they could make an income from the transfer of mods from PC to console, they might go for it. Right now, it looks like mods would displace sales of other games, so they don't like it.

My understanding is that every game developer has to pay Microsoft/Sony to release every patch on their respective networks. So I am sure MicroSony would want to be paid for every mod they allow to be distributed on their networks as well. Which is of course completely in opposition to the free sharing of content that is the cornerstone of modding.

I'm not really talking about mods. I'm talking about the ability to make simple CK tweaks. Slow the timescale down. Make bandits friendly to my bandit character. That sort of thing.

From what I understand, a mod is an entire package of CK commands? What if the gamer just wants to make a few very simple tweaks, which are garnered as 'safe' to do, in the sense that these tweaks are guaranteed not to break the system?



Yes. Yes.



Ugh. Aren't they rich enough already? ...How depressing.

So I just used the Kinect for Skyrim...

Hubby had bought the kinect a while back and I had the hardest time figuring it out before. I guess he figured it out because when I went to freeze some ice wolves, the bumper wasn't working. I noticed the little icon up top and push down the bumper, say "Iiz" and let go. It worked. COOL.

Yeah, and the little light on the sound sensor has be green, not red. If it's red, it's not positioned right.

Also: what I do is I have the sensor thingie positioned right next to my bed. I game in bed. Anyways, since it's no more than 3 feet away from me, this helps it "hear" me, so I don't have to shout! ...the commands are all interchangable too, which means if you run out of (let's say) spell commands, it's possible to assign some unused weapon commands for spells.

I like it. It's like having roughly 50 extra hotkeys, only these extra hotkeys are voice-commanded.

I have to use the most deadpan voice to use it, though XD. If I get excited and say "ICE FORM! AUGH! ICEFORMICEFORMICEFORM" it won't work XD I have to calm myself and say "Ice form."

Yup yup yup. You have to speak calmly and evenly, even as a giant ice troll is lumbering towards you. Start getting excited and the ( ? ) symbol pops up over and over

XD

Anyone else find "LUcky Lorenze" yet? Pinned underneath his house with his shrine to Dibella and a copy of The Lusty Argonian Maid? Near the Abandoned Prison?

Huh. This is ringing a bell. I am not sure. There's probably a bunch of things I've discovered in this game, but have not reported in this thread.

Nice find. I'll have to look for this.

Yep. Lucky Lorenze experienced too much wood.

I guess that was some morning...

-coughs and spews tea-

Good god y'all XD

I found some high elf Mage in morvunskar named Naris the wicked. He was ranting on about burning bodies or something like that, lol. I didn't really get to hear him say anything else because then he saw me and turned hostile

Man...this is ringing a bell with me. I'm not remembering whether or not I've come across this one or not.

Edit: lol I just said something very similar the other day 6 posts above. XD

Have I told y'all yet about how in mid convo, my husband goes "Unrelenting force!" AMD it exited out of the dialogue and Kayla goes "FUS!"

THEN later after all the high fives from my idiot friend, I'm in Solstheim and my friend goes "Ice form!" AND I FROZE FOUR PEOPLE.

I turned off the Kinect lol

Trolling at its finest

I'd the kiceckt fun?

Aww. Well ya gave it a shot, Miss Hollow. ....I am (still) the only one who uses voice commands around here!

Now excuse me while I get back with Uber Kness, my first game that'll have dragons. It'll be fun to learn finally be able to use some dragon shouts.

Cicero: I just made the connection. Cicero is the fop we find kinda north of Whiterun, his wagon has lost its wheel. But I didn't know who Cicero is, and where he eventually winds up. Very nice.

I always thought that a dark-skinned Imperial Captain in Helgen is a Redguard. UESP revealed she's in fact an Imperial. Makes sense.

I always make that mistake. I'm always mistaking dark-skinned Imperials for Redguards.

I have two new things. :
(1). I saw an eagle land in its nest, high up in a tree. I had no idea they have nests.

(2) I learned that if we move in different ways during a power-attack, the animation of our character will swing his/her weapon in different ways!

Woo HOO killed my first dragon!!! .. My test character, Uber Kness, an Imperial Fighter/Magic-user (much more of a fighter, though) dealt the final blow to um....Mirmulnir. He did this final blow with his giant battleaxe, so it was uber-epic!

It didn't seem that tough, but then again, Uber had a lot of help from about a dozen other NPCs. I'm wondering what'll happen if he meets a dragon by himself.

Best not to think about that for now...

EDIT: the NPCs all want him to "shout", and I finally figured out how to do so. I might have trouble trying to RP this, though. Uber is suppsosed to be kind of a knumbskull, he's no dragonborn! . It'll be weird trying to place him on the same level as a Martin Septim or a Pelinal Whitestrake.

I read a fix where it said Akatosh made the Dragonborn a dumb tank so he wouldn't be smart enough to try to take over everything

Ahh...that's one way to approach such a RP conumdrum. I gotta admit using the only shout he knows (Fus!) is really cool.

Good job, Uber Ness!!




I’m still getting new dungeon dialog from Marcurio. Maybe they added some, but it still amazes me to hear something new.

Kayla is currently experimenting with Marcurio for...science. Jenassa was a no-go. She wouldn't listen to ANYTHING and wouldn't follow Kayla. Methinks there was some sort of jealousy thing going on XD

Westley got ran outta solitude for no reason whatsoever.

So Uber Kness fired Jenassa, so he could have Lydia as a follower. I noticed that as soon as Jenassa got fired, she walked down stairs to the lower floor of the Bannered Mare (all this happened in the Bannered Mare), grabbed a tankard from somewhere, and immediately began swaying to the music being played by the bard. This is a new thing for me: I've never seen an NPC follower do anything but just stand around (once they're hired) or remain seated until we hire them.

Ooh, interesting. I mean, I've seen the guys there clap and stuff, but I've only ever seen Jenassa sitting.

Exactly. The only follower I've ever seen do anything on her own is Serana. And Serana is (of course) 100x more adventurous than any other NPC. I just assumed all the others only had programming to sit or stand or follow us around.

WHAT THE HELL?!

If you start the dragonborn DLC, every time you fight a dragon, MIRAAK TAKES THE SOUL FROM YOU!

Why?!?!?!

Because he wants to piss you off. I get SO PISSED when he does that!

Dude, the quest,one for dragonborn is hard, and Miraak is hard as [censored] to kill. Make sure you're on a high level and have a lotta healing potions, or Kayla's gonna get her rear end handed to her by Miraak. Either that or he'll be wearing her skin as a coat

Well now I gotta kill him so I can get my damn dragon souls!!

Yup

Bring a lotta potions. What level are you?

34.

Dude, wait before you fight miraak. I'm level 81, and he gave me a hell lotta trouble. Damn, I almost died three times. On the easy setting. So either wait, or bring a TON of strong healing potions, lol. And a VERY good weapon.

From Vivienne in Solitude: What do you need, handsome?

That’s the first thing she said to this guy. Now I have had a lot of characters meet Vivienne, and she never hit on any of them. Not even after they did her aunt’s quest. It makes me wonder if there’s some hidden disposition system. Vivienne = High Elves Are Hot or something.

I don't remember her exact words (it was a little while ago), but she definitely called him handsome.

Awesome! Good job Renee, we knew you would do it eventually!