My friend did the same thing. He was like "LOOK THERE ARE DIFFERENT COLORED WOLVES IN HERE!!!"

XD

Red wolves? Not foxes but wolves? Haven't seen those. I've only seen the regular dark gray ones and ice wolves.

I have noticed different color packs of wolves here and there, though.

Really?

Everything outside the city walls is now doomed. If I can pick up bear traps, I'm always going to to hold one, lol.

You can only pick up the traps when they are armed. And you cannot put them in your inventory. They are like carrying a dead body. So it is not very convenient.

I know what you mean by pick them up. Inconvenient or not, they might come in handy!

I just found a pretty large set of ruins that I've never seen before. I've been through that area several times and never saw this place before. Arcwind Point.

Cool!!! Where's it at?

In the Jerall mountains. Central south region of the map. Close to Ivarstead. Just before it, there is a tower with a dragon at the top. Just on the other side of the mountain that tower is up against, that is where the ruin is.

I love when this happens. It happens in both Oblivion and Skyrim. There have been places I've walked by literally in both games 100x, and I never discover them until one day when I just happen to look left or right.

While walking east from Azura's Shrine, a horse fell dead from the sky in front of Aela. It is one of the weirdest things I have seen in this game.

Are you sure that was a horse...or a ready meal?

I once had a similar thing with a dead giant in front of the gates of Whiterun. No idea how it got there, but the two guards were standing by, calm as you like, with this dead giant in front of them. I just had no idea what was going on...

Aela is not an orc, so it was definitely not a meal!

That reminds me of the time a dead dragon randomly fell out of the sky while I was showing my friends what Skyrim looked like, and they were horrified because they LOVE dragons. They never did play.

Then the horker fell on top of me when I was above Winterhold XD

Oh yeah, I should've twigged that that joke would go over your head.

Be more British in the future, damn you!

I thought you were referring to the orc stablekeeper in Oblivion, who says: "The Chestnut Handy Stables used to sell horses. But they're gone. Our horses. All gone. Big mystery. No idea where they went. [burp]"

Nah, I was talking about the big news story in the UK about a month or so ago where a bunch of frozen ready meals had horse meat in them instead of beef. Can see where you coming from with the orc thing, though

Ah I heard about this! It was on our news here in the U.S. for a short while.

My new thing of the day: yesterday Lord Haaf-Mersey and Mjoll were walking towards Riften (off to the chapel of Mara) and LHM just happened to look to his right. Holy crap, there's a tower up there?

I am forgetting the name of the place, but it had a rather neat little mini-quest attached to it. A witch's mother was about to be forced to join a coven or something like this. It was one of those things though: I've walked by this area dozens of times, yet only last night did I realize there's yet another place to explore.

So Here's a first (for me): different bandit tribes at war!

Tonight Mycharonna snuck up on Halted Stream Camp. As you may know, Silent Moons Camp is visible in the distance, and over at SMC, there was some sort of battle going on. We could see fireballs being thrown in the distance. At what? I am not sure.

Mycharonna cast a Fury spell on one of the Halted Stream bandits and he was killed by his friends within a minute. The Halted Stream bandits (two of them) start going nuts, because they know somebody's out there, but they can't find my vampire. So they wander off onto the plain, draw their bows, and somehow wind up at war with the Silent Moons bandits!

It was pretty cool, Mycharonna merely got up on one of the ramps, so she could get a good view of the action.

Oh COOL!!!

That sounds fun to watch. I've seen legion soldiers fighting Stormcloak soldiers.

That is neat! I often see the Halted Stream gang mix it up with wandering giants and their mammoths. I don't have to tell you how that turns out!

Dammit, people! Don´t make me play this!

Dynamic lighting.....giants roaming around with their mammoths .... the choice to have many different types of paid followers... auroras in the sky at night... shorter questlines (true) but more options with miscellaneous tasks and such .... snow, but also plenty of sunshine if you're in the right hold ... tons of little unique stories in all the lairs Lothran might possibly find ... fish in the streams, birds in the air .... really cool magical effects ... the ability to customize our character as he or she grows through a series of perks .... horses that move at variable speeds ... re-animation of dead NPCs .... more NPCs on the roads (hostile and friendly) ....

....and (of course) for you ... the ability to add mods to anything you do and do not like? ...naw, you shouldn't play it. *whistles*

Well if anything you´re a great spokesperson, Renee!


...MUST... RESIST... BUYING... A PS3....!!

Yeah definitely don't get a PS3 if you intend on playing a Bethesda game.

Did they screw up Skyrim on the PS3 too?

Let's put it this way Mirocu, the PS3 is not the red-headed step-child of the Bethesda games, it is the bald step-child...

Hmm... I'll try to be diplomatic because I've found myself in trouble in the past for posting opinions on such topics.

It's not like they 'screwed up' the PS3 version, but they definitely had problems with it. The game was made for Xbox and then ported to PS3. This seems to be the first, most biggest mistake. If they're gonna make the game for PS3, make it for PS3.

I can speak from experience here: my PS3 games worked flawlessly for the first month or so. When people started complaining about performance issues on PS3, I shrugged it off: my game was fine. Then one day, it wasn't entirely fine. I started noticing some of the lag others had mentioned, some of the frame-skipping and slow-downs. I went on You Tube one day, and saw some really horrific examples from other gamers. My game wasn't quite as bad as theirs, but just to be safe, I decided last summer to buy an Xbox anyways, since the game is truely made for Xbox.

Bottom line: I think Bethesda has done the best they can, and I have heard they've stepped up to the plate with the last update, which is supposed to fix a lot of glitches and performance issues on PS3. But if you're gonna get a console for Skyrim, get the Xbox. Or just get it for PC.

Actually that's a good question, though: that's interesting that you are you mentioning consoles if you've already got a PC? I'm actually a little flattered.

In short, YES.

If you are interested, upgrade your PC if you don't think your current one can handle it.

Mirocu's issue is not hardware, rather it is a matter of principle. Like many people he does not want to be forced to install Steam on his computer and be forced to run it every time he plays his game. I felt the same way, but eventually I knuckled under, since the only other option was to play a pirated copy of the game, which I did not want to do.

I always forget about Steam. I've heard it can screw up people's mods when it updates, too.

I agree wholeheartedly about being forced to use Steam. You can play it offline (they have an "Offline Mode"), but they bug you while you are in game to ask you if you want to connect or update. (And of course, you do have to go online with them to DL mods).

One thing I have noticed with version 1.9, is that Heimskr has shut up! No more ranting, no more raving, no more Mighty Talos!!!

I know a lot of people complained about it. But I always found his spiel to be hilarious. I miss it.

Ah. Yes, the ever obnoxious Steam. I've heard some horror stories about it, but haven't really had anything bad happen other than some minor annoyances.

For me, the deciding factor was mods.

That would be annoying for sure. I've never had this happen. I always play offline and I've had them ask if I wanted to go online before the game started up, but not during. Yikes! That would be an annoyance!




Well, a tiny nitpick. To download a mod you do have to be online, of course. But you do not have to be online with them. I haven't downloaded a single mod from Steam, ever. I can't see myself ever doing it in the future either.

Now THAT I didn't know! Thanks for the info, I'd rather get my mods from Nexus anyway.

He's right; having Skyrim on Steam doesn't affect you downloading and installing mods that aren't from the Steam Hub, aside from having to click through a few extra folders. I personally use a mix of mods on both the Skyrim Nexus and the Steam Hub, as there are generally a fair few mods that are exclusive to one or the other and the Steam Hub mods are actually really easy to install; you click the 'sync' button, the mod downloads, unpacks in the right directories automatically and will even update by itself if the author creates a new version. Pretty handy.

That does sound handy. Hmmm...


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That is why I will never use the Steam Hub to install mods. It automatically puts loose files throughout your install folder. You do not know what they are, or where they are, or how many they are. I learned the hard way with Oblivion not to scatter files all over my game install like that. It makes deinstalling them a nightmare, not to mention tracking down conflicts and mod related bugs.

Instead you are much better off downloading your mods in a zip file from the Nexus, and then using a mod manager like TES Mod Manager to pack them all into an .omod. That makes managing all of your loose files easy, as the .omod cleans up after itself when you deactivate it. No hunting for individual files through all of your subfolders. It will also warn you if an .omod wants to overwrite any existing files, and gives you the option of saying no. Which is very important given that the scripts are all loose files now. A mod can overwrite a vanilla script file, and then if you remove the mod, you either delete the script file entirely and break your game, or you are stuck with the modded script file still there.

I am pretty sure this is why my Oblivion game is so messed up right now. Vilja 3 over-wrote some vanilla bed files. When I removed Vilja 3 and installed Vilja 4 I got a warning that said the Oblivion ESM required the Vilja ESM. I thought installing Vilja 4 would fix the issue, it didn't. Immediately "See you sleep" went defunct, along with several other mods that require vanilla bed use - including my own mod which has never had a single conflict since I made it (till now).

So now I have to uninstall Oblivion plus all my mods, pull the original files out and reinstall everything - really hate having to do it, but no work-arounds I've tried so far have helped.

I have Premium Edition for the PC as part of my collection and the reason I´m talking PS3 is because I got hold of the Collector´s Edition for it. I couldn´t find a copy of the CE for any other platform so that´s why I have it for the PS3.

And yes, Steam is the reason I won´t play it on PC. I´m not a trained monkey who´ll do anything just because someone said so. I mean what´s next? Do I have to get a specific car or a tattoo just to be allowed to buy TES VI?
No thanks. I´ll stick with my non-Steam, non-DRM, non-Jumping through hoops, perfectly legal with no goddamn strings attached Game Boy if I have to
The only thing that forces me to use are batteries and that I can live with!

This was a new thing for me, Amren reacting to my character's race. Details like this one make my day, I can't get impressed by dragons but I can easily get impressed by this stuff.

Oh I get it now. If Darkness Eternal or some of the other gamers who are actively on PS3 could chime in, and let us know if the latest patches worked or not (for performance issues) I would trust their opinion. I haven't been gaming on PS3 since last June, so I have no idea whether these patches have done the trick or not.

What did Amren say? EDIT: oh never mind, I see it's in the screeny there! Cool!

Yeah, I also love moments like this!

I think that is what she means, that thing in the corner at the start of the game.


I've learned that is not the case. You can delete the modded script file just fine, the original script will unpack from the BSA when the modded one is not present.

Getting scripts from mods to shutdown correctly can be a hassle however, but that is another topic not related to installing mods.

*Boing!!!*...You rang?... ...

Sorry, as I'm on Fallout 3 at the mo, I don't tend to happen around these parts... ...

But, as that's been a recent move, and was recently on the amazingly named Erich Krannt , I can absolutely say that I have had no problem on either of the previous 100+ hour characters I've done...The only time there was a problem was very early on where I had Olfsson kill the backwards dragon, then it lagged, but only while I was in the same cell as it, once I'd left, the lag disappeared...

All of the additions; the seeing underwater things, the Solstheim additions...Hearthfire...I've not seen anything that I would class as a problem really...

For me, the game on the PS3 is (now, finally ) amazing...

Though, we're still not trusting Dawnguard to not put the vampire glitch into the game... ...

If you have really do have the money for it, buying a PS3 for Skyrim and/or any other PS3 game is well worth it, IMHO... ...

Nice one!!...

*Applauds heartily*...

Oh damn, wrong thread... ...

My original character played since Nov. 11 runs smooth as silk. My second character’s game (303 hours and 14 MB) stutters badly, but I’m taking steps to possibly improve it. I haven’t had time to check my other PS3 characters.


Here’s something I hadn’t heard before. My character hopped over the bed in the course of maneuvering around the crowd in the kids’ room. Kid remarked in a wistful tone, “I’m not allowed to stand on the furniture.”

Thanks for your input, McB and Grits. Well, if I ever do get a PS3 thrown after me, or one pushed down the mail slot in the door, I think I´ll take it and give Skyrim a try. Till then I´m occupied in the dangerous Wasteland and the beautiful Cyrodiil for a looooooooooooong time still

Oh sweet mother Mara, Marcurio/Darnand finally equipped his Master robes and Destruction gear!! This is awesome. I am SO going to play dress up with him.

That's cool, Grits. I want to thank you again for educating me on healing potions & NPCs. Mjoll the Lioness is still 'a-live' because of this trick.



PS3 doesn't cost too much nowadays, too. Here in America it's less than 300 bucks new, I'm not sure what you would pay in Scandinavia.