No mods, his game is on Xbox. Anyways, this is going to be my thing with him from now on: I'll be watching to see if he yawns after a certain amount of time.

That is so interesting! Until you brought this up I had no idea that was a vanilla idle for characters, I thought only NPC's did it!

My Redguard kept doing it, that's the part that was so weird. He kept stifling his yawn every 15 seconds or so. Never noticed anything like it. If it had happened in one of my PC games, chances are I would have assumed "ah, that's just some mod".

That is so amazing! I wonder now what the conditions are for that yawn idle to play (like you mentioned, lack of sleep - or like Acadian said, maybe must be sitting?) I'll try to remember to check it out next time I'm in the CS.

I'm really glad you mentioned this, because I had no idea about it!

I am just discovering the awesomeness of the Acrobatics skill. This is one of those skills which has never gotten very high as I've gamed on consoles, mostly because my characters only jump when they absolutely have to. And it's rare they take a tumble from any sort of distance. None of my console games ever lasted longer than 350 hours, so unless I sat there and spammed jumping over and over again, this skill barely broke over Apprentice in most cases.

But Lady Saga's PC game is somewhere over 450 hours, and she jumps around quite a lot; she's supposed to have been some sort of dancer before becoming an adventurer. She's unafraid to jump from (let's say) a high ledge to a lower one, halfway across a room. And as her Acrobatics is finally past Journeyman, I'm finding that her jumping skills are getting to be downright Mario-ish. It's really fun!

I love jumping around in Oblivion. I like jumping from one rock to another, and seeing how far I can get without touching the ground. Or jumping up on the stone fences, and leaping from one of those little square sections that stick up from the rest of the wall to the next. You can get like a superhero, and even change direction mid-jump.

Like a cat! (or maybe I should say like a Khajiit!)

Okay - I just discovered a fairly simple thing in this game that I'd never known before.

You know those big falling blade traps in Ayleid ruins? The things like enormous rusty razor blades on chains that periodically fall, then winch back up, then fall again?

I never knew until just the other day that it's possible to jump over one of them while it's down. I've always gotten past them by waiting until they're winched all the way up, then going underneath quickly before they can fall. But the other day, I ran into one that was over an elevated section that had collapsed, so there was no way to run underneath it, so, on a whim, I tried jumping over it instead, and it worked like a charm.

All the time I've wasted over the years standing there, waiting for a blade to winch up so I could duck under it...

Nice to see you again gp'r!

Don't you take damage from the blades when you jump over them? I seem to recall taking damage when I just bumped up against them when they are down.

Aww dang! Yes, we can jump over those, this is true. You have to be careful though. If you do it wrong (if you run towards one but don't press jump soon enough) your character can wind up taking some damage.

ninja'd by SubRosa But like I was saying, if you do it right, you won't take damage.

Here's an odd one. (Well, I'm sure it's been noted before, but it's new to me.) I'm having to redo my installation from scratch (Ugh. Don't ask.), so watching the installation screenshots go by, I just realised that the Kvatch one has a guard riding a horse - inside the city. Suggests they maybe meant to make Kvatch an open city at one time. (I think this, like the other installation shots, also appears as a loading screen, but I hadn't noticed it there.)

whoa I'll have to check that out.

In the vanilla game, there are sometimes horse sound-effects (sounds of hooves on cobblestones) but no actual horses. So yeah, maybe they meant for towns to be open, but since that wasn't going to happen, best they could do was some sound-effects.

Think I've got some oddities happening because I'm in the middle of a slow reinstall. I just encountered First Mate Malvulis wandering up to the Talos Plaza gate. She wandered over and, instead of the usual threats, sang me a cute little song about a Redguard Pirate. (I decided not to talk to her in case she got all nasty again, perhaps she's actually a nice enough person if not stuck on that dockside.)

But there's no AI for this. Looking in the CS, poor Malvulis has no AI other than hanging around within a couple of hundred units of the docks. And UESP does say she has that song, but I've never heard her sing it, and can't find it referenced in the CS. (Can't be my Idle Dialogues mod, or UESP wouldn't list it. And I haven't fired up any Imperial City mods yet.)

Bit of waste really, now I think of it. Oblivion could use a few more songs, doesn't even make the most of the ones it's got.

Malvulis did that to me once too! I had set up some chairs, tables, and food outside my IC Waterfront shack, and she wandered over and sang to me! It was one of those AWESOME game moments!!!!

Brill, it's likely just not one of my mods being a bit odd then. Weird, though, I still can't see any AI packages or scripts that could make her do that. Sometimes I think the game engine is haunted...

Her wandering further than her spot is something like Count Skingrad's wandering into caves and as far as Bravil - it is like their wander package glitches its boundaries or something (or maybe has no boundaries).



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxmhFIGTplE




Er, notice he is also outside in daylight?

Wow, how neat! I can't say I've ever heard her do anything but taunt any of mine, Taunting, insulting, I had no idea she sings.

I wonder if that's a disposition thing?

I have had her sing, taunt, and insult me, so its not disposition! (That's my love life... )

My spouse must get around,

All pirates died quite early in Lothran´s game so no one can sing anymore...

You don't know what you've got till it's gone...

Ah, but wait a minute. If you haven't done the quest and got the poor fellow killed, then Aldos Lothran in Cheydinhal can sing you the epic Cliff Racer Song. Can't stop the music...

Unfortunately he´s long gone too...


And his name is Aldos Othran, not Lothran!

Oops, sorry Mirocu. [But - mebbe he's a distant rel, L's family spent some time in High Rock way back, the locals called his dad/mum L'Othran and the name stuck? ]

So, running Severan through the Tutorial the other day, ran across yet another chest that I've been missing for years. In the sewer part, in the room with the two goblins in.

How have I been missing these?

*Facepalms hard enough to shake Yggdrasil*

That really is something, eh? Because I know you've done the Tutorial many many times.

Whoa, I just saw the walls of Bruma while Kahreem was standing on the Imperial City's Waterfront. I mean.... we're talkin' nearly 8 years of gaming here, and I've never noticed this.

There was something else new to me, but now I'm forgetting what it was. OH I know. There's a paint horse which stands on the Waterfront, in front of the door to the Temple District. It's there 24/7, unless one of mine decides to go for a joyride. Well, I just noticed this horse is finally gone. Maybe Heironymus rides him to Anvil after Taking Care of Lex is done.

I've seen that paint horse, and also seen it standing beside that lady's house who you frame for stealing the bust of Llathasa a few times.

I still remember when I found this paint horse for the 1st time and a dead conjurer lying next to it, I assumed that this horse belonged to the conjurer. Then I mounted it, thinking it was free and so I earned my first bounty in Oblivion.

It took me about 6 years to spot Bruma from Waterfront as well.

However, It took me almost 9 years to find the cave populated with Argonian Tribesmen. I heard and read about this cave many times but I didn't know its name or the location. I refused to spoil myself on the UESP but yesterday I finally found this "fab" cave. At first it seemed completely ordinary but when Vion and his friend Alix were attacked by a pair of Argonians wearing nothing but loincloth, I knew I finally found the place.

I shall explore it today.

P.S.
In case anyone still hasn't find it, I didn't mention its name or the location.

Oh no kidding, there's a cave full of Argonians, and is this vanilla? That's so fab. I wonder if one of mine found this in the past. Chances are this could have happened, and maybe I didn't notice at the time.



This makes sense, because this horse occasionally vanishes in some of my games. Somebody must ride it from A to B.

Speaking of new things (in general), there's probably still lots of caves and forts I've never been to. And I can still get lost in Cyrodiil (I play without compass) very easily while I almost never got lost in Morrowind or Skyrim.

I know there's some village between Bruma and the Imperial City, north of Aleswell which I haven't came upon yet. I think it's involved in some Daedric quest.

And I know there's a cave called Unmarked Cave somewhere. But where? I don't know. That's why playing Oblivion is all the more interesting.

About that Paint Horse, I had noticed him too, and wondered about him. Then I saw her riding him, looked it up on the UESP Wiki, and learned that the Paint Horse actually has owners. Not the kind of owners you'd want to steal a horse from!

That Tribal cave has an underwater opening in the Niben as well; if you like to sneak in the back way and surprise the enemies, lol.






I won't tell you where and spoil your exploration!








BWAAHAA! I guess not! But it might explain why it was beside that particular house on the waterfront, because that barrel near where it was standing is a Skooma drop, for anyone who likes stealing Skooma stashes, lol.

Cripes, that horse is owned by a drug runner? ...

Lopov: Yes this town between Bruma and the Imperial City does indeed exist. It's well-hidden. I found it only because one of mine noticed something .... a very slight path going through some woods or something like this. And she followed it until she found the hidden town. It's a nice place, actually.

I guess that playing without any map markers for years is another reason why I never found some well-known places. Even if I do some random exploring, there are still chances of missing some location for only a few meters. It took me several years to find the Shrine of Hermaeus Mora, for instance. And I still don't know exactly where is Mephala's shrine.

That's the thing; this village probably won't show up on the game's vanilla compass, it's rather deep into some wilderness.

.... and that is all I shall say to reaction. You'll have to figure the rest yourself, which is more immersssssssiiiivvveee, of course.

By turning camera around I found a symbol on the back of thrones in the King and Queen Tavern, and this symbol is the same as the Cheydinhal emblem. Now I wonder if all thrones have the Cheydinhal emblem on the back.

I think all of the thrones do have a symbol on the back; but don't know if the symbol differs by city (though I only actually remember finding two thrones in the CS, and one was Daedric-type with that symbol).

Cool, but I know for a fact that the Bruma thrones have the Bruma emblem

Then I can only assume that thrones for the Imperial City's inns were made in Cheydinhal.

Maybe it´s an inn thing? That could be a fun little quest; to check every inn that has thrones for the Cheydinhal emblem!


Though I reckon there aren´t too many inns that have thrones...

Indeed, only the K & Q Tavern comes to my mind at the moment.
There are a few dungeons with thrones, though, one is at the end of Fort Pale Pass IIRC.

My skooma dealer bought some food in one of those inns on the way to Anvil. There was this wedge of cheese behind the elf at the desk, and this cheese vanished when Snaaty bought it. And the thing is, I've seen this happen in Skyrim, but never TES 4. I don't know if this is a facet of the vanilla game, or if the Unofficial Patch has "fixed" this or something, because I've never seen food get removed in real-time from shelves on PS3 or Xbox.

Check the Inn for mice!

I have seen this happen before. In my Witchcraft mod I created a bookshelf inside Morcant's cottage and filled it with books. I marked her as owning them, so taking them would be considered stealing. But that also wound up putting them in her inventory for sale. If you bought one of those books, it would vanish from the shelf. The same was even true of the staff she carried, it wound up automatically becoming for sale as well.

Yeah, I´ve seen that happen a lot of times. And I think it´s pretty neat; the things on the shelves are not just eye candy. It´s really what they are selling!

So you folks are saying you have mice in your games too? Ahhh!

Well, I actually do in my game (as a matter of fact); but I was just joking,

Whoa!

So Kahreem was in the Inn of Ill Omen, sitting there having dinner. I pressed the button to make him stand up, but he had other things in mind.

"Put that back, you worthless thief!"

Oops. This is all part of his RP of course, he IS a thief. But I did not mean for him to steal something at that moment. Anyways, he gets up and before I can make him drop whatever he stole, an Imperial Legion guy shows up.

Kahreem resists arrest. He can't go to jail right now. He doesn't want to. BUT here's the new thing I've never ever seen before: when he was running out of the inn, and ran right by the guy who owns the place, this message popped on-screen.

*Tan Plate Removed*

... something like that. Who removed it? It wasn't me. I hadn't had time to go into his inventory, you see. I have no idea what happened. But I noticed the owner of the inn was just standing there, not attacking, when Kahreem fled the place. It's almost like Kahreem gave him this item. Right?

An owner will take back any item stolen by your character as well as call for help if they see you take it. Kahreem got close enough to the inn keeper that he was able to do so.

Kahreem subconsciously steals things even when he doesn't intend too, I mean to.