No for the same[edit: I wrote some] reason they have to feed. Their blood lacks some critical element (although I can't remember what it is).

Not really. Vampires just are driven to drink blood, and are only severly weakned weithout it.

The dunmer vampire Mastrius has been sitting in his tomb for Azura-knows how long since she made it so he can't leave that place....without people to feed on...

Maybe in MW, but just about everywhere else vampires drink blood because vampire blood lacks some critical element (and I still can't remember what it is). All the vampire myths spawn from a certain blood disease (can't remember what it is either) in which their blood lacks some elements, which now day are suplemented through ivs, but back in the day and now, just in primitave areas, they got it by drinking blood.

hemophilia is the disease that hasbeen associated with vampires. the disease i genetic and occurs when your blood lacks the enzymes or the dibers themselves that are used to make your blood clot.

vampires however, drink blood because its makes them more alive. since vampires are essentially neither alive of dead, hanging somewhere in between the balance. they thrist for blood because it makes them feel alive. not because they have to.

I mayb wrong, since i am not into vampire mythology.

The Lore of TES matters more than Real World lore when it comes to TES games..

Ya.....

Sooooo, can I have my cannibalistic vampire girl feed on other vampires, not just regular people? Or is that not possible in TES lore? (I'm asking because I'm considering putting a vampire girl in Emma's story, who is hated by vampires as well as regular people.)

I'm fairy certain one could do that. From Mastruis words, and his situation he didn't have any way of getting blood. It weakned him, but it didn't kill him. He took half the player's health to gain the power neccesary to escape, and the only way to get Mastrius' quest is being a vampire, so if a Vampire can gain power from another's blood, then its quite plausible that a Vampire can make a living feeding off other Vampires.

When I was younger (2-3 years?) I was obsessed with Vampire lore. To be honest most of the stuff they had awhile ago was pretty odd.... like when the moon was red it is because a vampire climbed up a silver moonlight thread and bit it.... or wierd vampire-like creature stories from other countries, breast milk stealing snake people that drank blood afterwards, the Walpurgis nacht that looked like a human but had a thorn-like tooth underneath it's tongue for feeding and much more stuff.

Basiclly vampires do whatever the hell you want them to do, modern vampire tales are widely different than that of the ancient days.

(sorry about the D-post I figured it had been so long I might as well ressurect it)

I have a feeling vampires will be playing a bigger role in Oblivion, though a passive one mind you. I mean there won't be any vamp related main quest stuff (maybe not even guild stuff) but clans will be bigger and there will be new little treats here and there. Why else would they be so quiet about it? Their keeping it under wraps because they figure they have some good content waiting to be a suprise. (And like they said, they like vampirism and such to a little treat for fanatic players, like in Daggerfall.)

alot of you sound like vampires.

Maybe a vampire in high ranks in the mages guild and very few know he/she is a vampire that would be nice and since you can still join andplay guilds as a vamp then maybe you could become a guildm-master vampire(vampire in the DB that sounds fun) stop my silence me or i´ll die before the damn games is realeshed

I heard yesterday that vampires keep the human/elf/orc/cat/lizard like appearence by feeding and if they don´t feed they become......scarier

They tease and torment me!

Must they always keep the vampire info a secret?


I guess I'll just have to wait

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Looks like our wonderings have been proved. A feeding animation at last!

geez, that Vampiric Touch spell on morrowind sucked. Not just 'cuz it never looked cool, but also cuz it couldnt do much for me. I never used magic very often, so I never had much magicka to spend... basically i was screwed when i became a vampire...

I hope they have a similar clan system to the Vampires the masquerade series.

Oh well.....Vampires.....some may find them very cool, hmmm I do not....so I will avoid them in Oblivion as I do in MW!

brrrrrr

idk, minque, i thought they were pretty fun, if not lacking a bit of detail. course, that's just my opinion, and your opinion is your own, and not mine to question , but in Oblivion, they will be considerably better. lets face the facts, with everything from previous games getting a "do-over", vampires will rock! And it bears mentioning that im quite psyched about the having to feed to appear normal thing.

Me neither, as soon as I encountered a vampire in MW i saved and loaded in case I was infected with their disgusting disease However I will not avoid them in Oblivion, I will hunt every single one of them until their is no-one left! Unless they kindly ask me to give them mercy.. I never kill a defenceless victim

Do I remember correctly or did I just imagine that I read you can now walk in Daylight unbothered as long as you keep up constant feeding? If you don't feed, you slowly show your true Vampiric form and become harmed by the Sun and angry Peasants. Can anyone confirm?

as much as i wish that i could tell you this is true, im honestly not sure. ive heard the same, and heard so time and time again, but im not quite sure if the devs have confirmed it

Vampires have always fantasied me because being killed by a vampire is one of the worst ways I can think of to die, my own fears interest me. I am quite a night person myself (possibly because I'm scared of the dark) and they have both power and immortality, power would be nice but immortality is something I crave.

I have heard that you need to feed to maintain your appearance (I'm 90% sure it was official) but I've heard nothing in the least way reputable that feeding will stop you from being damaged by the sun. But I don't follow all that too closely, I perfer to let the game be a surprise because if you look at the pre release MW screenshots they are completely different anyway.

I want the game to be a big surpirse but I wanna dive in now, so darn much! >.<

And it will be a surprise, apparently, as Devs are only "scratching the surface with any info" they release.

Hmm, if it would be possible to "hide" my vampiric identity and walk around normally during the day then it might be an option to me... It would be my BIG secret noone knows about... Hulking at night just to find a poor victim to satisfy the uncontrolable urge for blood, then wander about doing heroish deeds during the day, some life

Oh yeah, I've also tried to keep the info-gathering as low as possible since the "Woa"-feeling when you initially play a game is priceless, however it seems we won't be getting any breaking reveals from Bethesda, they sure must have gotten wellpayd to keep their mouths shut.

I regret watching the demos, because that showed me exactly what my first experiance will be, but I still don't know what it will be like when I first come out into the city, that will be a big woah and I'm not going to watch any more demos to find that out.

Did anyone else read Vampires of Vvardenfel, Volume II? I found it somewhere near the Red Mountain after looting Sunder from Dagon something-or-another, and its implications on Oblivion are intriguing: "In the West, a shadowy fraternity of vampire hunters is believed to be primarily composed of formerly afflicted vampires who have been cured of the disease." What you say?! Brotherhood of Vampire hunters???

Go sanguinary for a while and then join an exclusive cliche of vampire slayers? Sweetness! Is there any potential for this kind of faction in Oblivion? It might be a release date surprise.

holosiren, i thought you wrote "Dark Brotherhood" for a bit. then I reread it and saw that it said "Brotherhood of Vampire Slayers" I'm that dumb sometimes

I like the fact that if you go long without feeding you start becoming more apparent as a vampire.

It's a perfectly balanced way to stop the complaint of vampires hardly having a social life while adding a new form of risk and an extra incentive to feed.

This was the best possible way to remedy the problem :]

As for the part of sunlight not hurting you if you've recently fed. I think that's just a rumor, sunlight always needs to be a constant threat to vampires, and having blood in you doesn't make sense as a reason for not being hurt by light. You're hurt by light not because you're bloodless, it's because you're cursed.

I alsop imagine you can feed on NPC's during combat, but your success is based on your stats and the stats of the enemy, whereas feeding on a sleeping person is an automatic success, and that's why people will go through the trouble of breaking and entering, sneaking through a house, and the quietly creeping up on a sleeping victim.

that's funny b/c I studied Vampire physiology and I heard that the sun hurts vampires because of a lack of ability to produce melanin, which is a major factor in the protection of the human tissues from ultraviolet radiation which tears the body apart without protection...which is effectivly why vampires are weak against sunlight and not normal light, when a vampire drinks blood maybe there is a very small amount of melanin in it, not really sure to be honest, if so then that is your justification

also remember that there are times when gameplay enjoyment shouldn't be sacrificed to make things a little more "real" if I had to worry about being caught in daylight and couldn't sleep in the fields (which we can't without a camp being there) I wouldn't ever use the vamp side of things until I had beaten EVERYTHING else, that is when I would begin to play with it, and it would amuse me for another ten hours maybe twenty, over the course of about two weeks.

Well, to your first paragraph, I was talking about fantasy vampires, not people with melanin deficencies, and to your second paragraph, I realize my "realisitic" argument isn't quite a good one (being in a fantasy world and all), but never ever being able to go out into the sunlight adds a good bit of strategy. At somepoint you may need to get somewhere during the day, for one reason or another.

Maybe it's some sort of quest, maybe you stayed out too long and you need to get to a safe sleeping place you know what be checked by NPC's, but whatever the case, I would love to dodge through the shadows in broad daylight, taking damage, but trying to keep it in small amounts. Eventually I'd be too weak to take another hit, or maybe my only path is in a long sunlit path and I didn't have enough strength to cross it. Then I'd go about trying to find a quick snack. I might sneak into a house, taking my victim by force and then having to kill them as to not give away my vampiric identity, or perhaps I'd hang about in the shadows, waiting for an NPC to head my way. When they got close enough I'd drain their blood and kill them, perhaps even look for a place to hide the body. After that I'd sprint across the shining path to my hiding place and sleep the rest the day away.

I'd try to find a way to make my every day like that, always placing myself in perilous postions, or attempting to just do daring things. Even after I've completly experienced all my vampiric nature has to offer I'll still keep him around, one player RP'ing for the hell of it, but that's just me.

sounds fun when you put it like that.....awww man now I dunno what I want so I guess I will love whichever decision they have made over at bethy, or decide that I want which ever one I couldn't have..... that happens sometimes too... i'll just have to see.

I bet it's most likely the "never go in the sun" one, like in Morrowind.

I wish that there was some kind of hooded robe (I know that they aren't in OB but I can dream can't I?) that you could wear and since the robe prevented sunlight from touching you, you wouldn't suffer any sunlight damage. It would also be cool if you could wear a helm that covered your entire head and nobody would know that you were a vampire and you wouldn't suffer any sunlight damage

There are hooded robes.

Quote.

Well there you go.

Too bad with all the interviews being done by basic chums and us not hearing about vampired for quite some time, that though I'm sure the guys at bethesda wouldn't mind telling us at this point no one is asking them. Still, I guess it'd be better for the whole vampire thing to remain a surprise.

i cannot recall from where, but in one interview i do remember the developer mentioning that there will be a blood drinking animation! sorry if this has already been said, but i only read the first and last pages. However, whenever asked about the vampires, bethsesda dodged the question like they did with the topic of the unicorn

Well the reason they did that Scroto, is propably since they dont wish to spoil the entire game by giving us everey tiny piece if information we need...

But yes I do hope there will be such an animation,could be kinda cool

Yeah it's always, "Yes, they're in, NOW DON'T PESTER ME WITH FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS BIG BROTHER BIG BROTHER BIG BROTHER.

Well this is interesting, a screenshot of our first Oblivion vamp.

http://elderscrolls.com/images/art/ob_xbox360/obx31B.jpg

Ugly umbrella seller right there. I hope you can also look normal.

I think I remember hearing also that being a vampire gives you bonuses but if you're in the sun or don't feed you'll grow weaker and lose those bonuses.

Vampirism. Invisibility. Is there any better combanation?

Some of you mentioned that NPC's will have to change their scedules dramatically
when they become vampires. This is of course based on the premisis that vampires cant go out in the sunlight. Well i remember reading somewhere that in oblivian vampires could wander into sunlight as long as they have Feed! recently. Alos if vampirism spreads from one NPC to another i really have a hard time imajining that there wont be some sort of epedemic. ( based on vamps)


Help so confused with epedimic thing

ALSO! We aren't even sure that you CAN give other people vampirism! At least, I aren't

But if you CAN give other people vampirism, what I would do is go into a church and bite one, then they would get the entire town at once!

Actually on the subject of the Unicorn in Game Informer A couple months back they said that they saw the unicorn and mentioned that it was the only one and they hoped on it's back and rode it somewhere might have been ther imperial city but it was 100% in the magazine. And on Vampires I personally didn't like them in morrowind because I hated it being night time so I was never a vampire for that soul purpose. But let's hope there is something that counters this then it would be great fun biting someone in there sleep. And as far as I know there is an animation for it.

Wow. That Vampire is um...

Ugly.

But then again she might've been bitten when she was old, and thus is stuck looking like an old crone.

She does however, give me hope for Dunmer. Her skin tone is very much like that of Morrowind's. And she has pointy ears. So she's a Dunmer, I think.

And on that note, once the NPC has done their part in whatever it is they're essential for, you can kill them. So, who's up for making the new emperor a vampire?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure she was a pretty ugly non-vampire to begin with.

Interesting thread, was very dissapointed with Vampires in Morrowind.
All I want to know is, is it possible to become a vampire, take a bride and kill a lord who owns a castle and claim it for yourself. Ruling over the small outlying village having the peasents respectivly fearful of you.
Being able to sneak off into a village in the night killing villagers to feed your thirst. The ability to host massive partys and banquets where other lords (and vampires of higher class and nobility) would come. Then every once in a while some noble knights would assault your castle trying to slay you.
If I turned into a vampire I would want to be able to live a real life as a vampiric lord commanding armys of the undead (as a vampiric necromancer) laying seige to other towns and cities, watching the pitiful humans band together trying to stop me (and at times beating me and my armies back).
I don't know to what extent the team will have implimented things like this, but to me the main story and quests are nice but I would prefer the ability to live a life how I want just like Morrowind but in so much more depth.

I does sound as if vampires have been overhauled for Oblivion. I also hope that there will be some good quests for my vampire hunter.

In the new video (the 3 day video), there is a clip of a Dark Brotherhood member professing to a vampire. He looks completly like an average NPC, despite a red tinge to his eyes.

I believe vampires that feed regularly look mortal, while those (such as the Vampire Matriarch) who do not feed often look rather unsettling (white eyes).