TheCheshireKhajiit
Jun 20 2019, 02:46 AM
QUOTE(SubRosa @ Jun 19 2019, 07:25 PM)

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QUOTE(SubRosa @ Jun 19 2019, 05:25 PM)

QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Jun 19 2019, 05:39 PM)

Khajiit needs to read more
Too.
Many.
Video.
Games.
Oh well. Maybe Khajiit can get some quality reading done on beach vacation this year.
@Subbie- would you care to make a short list of Cthulhu Mythos stuff that you recommend and post it here? Nothing goes better with beach vacations than reading about humankind’s futile struggle with
the Great Old Ones and their abominable kin.
Lovecraft's own writing, or non-Lovecraft stories?
Non, Khajiit has plenty of Lovecraft’s work. It would be interesting to see what other writers do with the Mythos.
That is what I thought you meant. I made a list:
If you want to look for individual stories, a lot of these are so old they are public domain:
Robert E Howard
The Fire of Asshurbanipal
The Black Stone
Worms of the Earth
The People Of The Dark
The Tower of the Elephant
The Slithering Shadow
Karl Edward Wagner
Sticks
Stephen King
Jeruselam's Lot (not Salem's Lot)
Michael Shea
Tsathaggoua
Copping Squid
Anthology - The Demiurge (I have not read all of it yet, but I am thinking of buying it)
Robert Bloch
Notebook Found In A Deserted House
The Shambler From The Stars (this was sort of a joke, as two of the characters are stand ins for HP Lovecraft. Lovecraft wrote Haunter of the Dark in response)
The Shadow From The Steeple (this is a sequel to HPL's Haunter of the Dark)
Frank Belknap Long
The Hounds Of Tindalos
Clark Ashton Smith
Ubbo-Sathla
The Hunters From Beyond
Algernon Blackwood
The Wendigo
The Willows
If you just want to buy some anthologies, I recommend these:
The Cthulhu Mythos Megapack (the first one) - This was like 99 cents for Amazon Kindle
Tales Of The Cthuhlu Mythos
World War Cthulhu
She Walks In Shadows (this was a nice collection written by female authors, and many took established characters like Asenath Waite and Lavinia Whately and told stories from their point of view, which is a real breath of fresh air).
Awesome!! This is exactly what Khajiit was looking for! Thank you so much!!
SubRosa
Jun 20 2019, 04:45 PM
I suggest keeping an eye out for authors like Clark Ashton Smith, Robert Bloch, and Frank Belknap Long, who were all members of Lovecraft's 'inner circle' of writing buddies. And Robert E Howard of course. Some of their stories, especially the earlier ones, are copies of Lovecraft's style, and feel like weak imitations. These were literally their first attempts at writing however, before they found their own voices.
Stay away from August Dereleth stories. He never went beyond imitating Lovecraft, and doing it badly.
I know there is a web site out there with all of Clark Ashton Smith's stories. I found a bunch of Howard stories on Project Gutenberg. All of their stuff is public domain now.
TheCheshireKhajiit
Jun 20 2019, 04:51 PM
QUOTE(SubRosa @ Jun 20 2019, 10:45 AM)

I suggest keeping an eye out for authors like Clark Ashton Smith, Robert Bloch, and Frank Belknap Long, who were all members of Lovecraft's 'inner circle' of writing buddies. And Robert E Howard of course. Some of their stories, especially the earlier ones, are copies of Lovecraft's style, and feel like weak imitations. These were literally their first attempts at writing however, before they found their own voices.
Stay away from August Dereleth stories. He never went beyond imitating Lovecraft, and doing it badly.
I know there is a web site out there with all of Clark Ashton Smith's stories. I found a bunch of Howard stories on Project Gutenberg. All of their stuff is public domain now.
Khajiit shall trust your judgement on this subject. You are pretty much the Lovecraft Guru around these parts, after all.

Thanks again for the recommendations!
Lopov
Jun 20 2019, 06:35 PM
I finished Duma Key from Stephen King today, I read it on German, so its title was Wahn - a delusion. I recommend it to anyone that likes stories which build up slowly, which take place on a remote island and where there aren't too many characters involved.
I still have ten days of vacations ahead of me, so now it's time for some Poe - The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket, but I read it on German, so it's Der Bericht des Arthur Gordon Pym.
If I finish even this one, then I still have the Blood Meridian (on English this time) from McCarthy with me.
TheCheshireKhajiit
Jun 20 2019, 07:39 PM
QUOTE(Lopov @ Jun 20 2019, 12:35 PM)

I finished Duma Key from Stephen King today, I read it on German, so its title was Wahn - a delusion. I recommend it to anyone that likes stories which build up slowly, which take place on a remote island and where there aren't too many characters involved.
I still have ten days of vacations ahead of me, so now it's time for some Poe - The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket, but I read it on German, so it's Der Bericht des Arthur Gordon Pym.
If I finish even this one, then I still have the Blood Meridian (on English this time) from McCarthy with me.
Can’t go wrong with Poe! Enjoy!!
SubRosa
Jun 20 2019, 09:30 PM
I tried to read Arthur Gordon Pym, because of the references to it in At The Mountains Of Madness. But I just could not get through it.
I did read Cask of Amontidillo yesterday, and that was good.
SubRosa
Jun 21 2019, 12:33 AM
I read Who Goes There by John Campbell. I was surprised at how closely Carpenter's The Thing follows it. Like the movie, it is a solid horror story. It prompted me to watch it again.
I also finished another story from Escape Artists today - What Throat by Annie Neugebauer. It was a neat weird fiction tale about two groups of people in the woods. Both are lost, and soon find themselves harassed by wolves, who are for some reason very hostile. At one point they are described as being extremely thin, implying that they are starving. But why they would be starving is never explained.
There is also something else out there in the woods, which the wolves themselves appear to be afraid of. It mimics the sounds of other creatures, but somehow wrong. We never see it, but it is out there, and it is hunting.
Eventually the characters are driven together, and things come to a head. It ends rather ambiguously, but there are dark hints. A lot is left unexplained, which is why I call it a weird tale, rather than a straight up horror story. I think Lovecraft would have liked it.
TheCheshireKhajiit
Jun 21 2019, 05:22 AM
QUOTE(SubRosa @ Jun 20 2019, 06:33 PM)

I also finished another story from Escape Artists today - What Throat by Annie Neugebauer. It was a neat weird fiction tale about two groups of people in the woods. Both are lost, and soon find themselves harassed by wolves, who are for some reason very hostile. At one point they are described as being extremely thin, implying that they are starving. But why they would be starving is never explained.
There is also something else out there in the woods, which the wolves themselves appear to be afraid of. It mimics the sounds of other creatures, but somehow wrong. We never see it, but it is out there, and it is hunting.
Eventually the characters are driven together, and things come to a head. It ends rather ambiguously, but there are dark hints. A lot is left unexplained, which is why I call it a weird tale, rather than a straight up horror story. I think Lovecraft would have liked it.
That sounds really interesting! I’ll add that one to the list!
Winter Wolf
Jun 23 2019, 08:01 AM
QUOTE(Lopov @ Jun 20 2019, 06:35 PM)

I finished Duma Key from Stephen King today, I read it on German, so its title was Wahn - a delusion. I recommend it to anyone that likes stories which build up slowly, which take place on a remote island and where there aren't too many characters involved.
Thanks! I have wanted to read that Stephen King for so long now. I actually did start it two years ago but got sidetracked for some reason or other, lol. It seemed really good- I like the way he got inside the head of the protagonist. I never did reach the island though.
This month I have finished Eldest (book 2) Christopher Paolini. Amazing that he finished the two books by about the age of 21. Rarely can someone so young achieve that. The book was very slow as Eragon learnt the skills of magic but it all came together in the end so I was happy enough.
Next week I will finish River God (Wilbur Smith). It is a blast and I am loving it.
Decrepit
Jun 24 2019, 12:32 AM
At 1410 this afternoon, during a storm triggered elecrical outage, I finsihed my fourth read of Barbara Hambly's The Walls of Air, book two of The Darwath Trilogy. To my surprise I quite enjoyed this second voume, certainly much more so than the first. I'm already several pages into book three, The Armies of Daylight.
SubRosa
Jun 27 2019, 10:20 PM
It's not exactly reading, but it is not music either so I did not put this in the Listening To topic. I have discovered a number of interesting podcasts lately. My starting point was
HPPodcraft, which I am almost caught up with.
They mentioned
Monster Talk, which I checked out. It seems pretty good. I have listened to a handful of their episodes now. They focus on monsters in pop-culture and folklore (which I suppose is really just yesteryear's pop-culture). They have a skeptic's point of view, so it is mostly them explaining the reality behind these myths and ideas. They also go into how they got created and why. It's basically a science-based discussion about things like dragons, megalodons, faeries, etc... They had an episode about Lovecraft and King Tut that got my interest.
That led me to
The Archaeological Fantasies Podcast. They have some crossover episodes with Monstertalk, as they sometimes are covering the same things. They only have a handful of episodes. I have only listened to the Viking Warrior Women one, which was good. It was mostly in response to a new tv show that Megan Fox hosts (I saw a little bit of it a while back, and was not impressed). The podcast was well done though, and I enjoyed the guest - Chelsi Slotten.
This led me to the
Women In Archaeology Podcast, which I also found had some interesting podcasts.
That led me to
PodCapers, which is a podcast about comics and super movies and superhero geekdom. Chelsi also guest stars in an episode here about the representation of women in comics. Which is what brought me to the podcast. The only downside I have found with PodCapers is that there are no options for a direct mp3 download. I had to find
Tube Ninja which will take a url and convert it to an mp3.
Decrepit
Jun 29 2019, 12:12 AM
At 1353 this afternoon I concluded my fourth read of Barbara Hambly's The Armies of Daylight, bringing to an end her Darwath Trilogy. After having trouble acclimating myself to book one, books two and three proved enjoyable if nothing special. I've decided to give another fantasy series from my early days with the genre another go, Katharine Kerr's Deverry Cycle, starting a third read of Daggerspell during supper.
Decrepit
Jul 8 2019, 07:53 PM
At 1228 this afternoon, in the midst of a non-drunken stupor, I concluded my third read of Katharine Kerr's Daggerspell, first book in her Deverry Cycle. As with Hambly, I consider it standard fare. An OK read, but nothing special. That said, I intend to continue on with book two, Darkspell.
SubRosa
Jul 10 2019, 10:13 PM
A few days ago I read The Ballad of Black Tom, by Victor Lavelle. It is based on Lovecraft's story The Horror at Red Hook. It is far better than Lovecraft's tale. Light years better. For starters it is a character-driven piece, with two protagonists whom you can believe are real people, with real motivations, whom you can empathize with. Malone, Lovecraft's original character, is less fleshed out in this regard. But Lavelle still writes him much better than Lovecraft did.
Black Tom is the main character however. He drives the plot. He is a young black man, a hustler, looking to make a buck any way he can. His father is a man who was worn out and physically broken before his time thanks to a life of manual labor. A life Tom refuses to even contemplate, and one cannot blame him.
Lavelle's plot is much tighter than the original as well, dispensing with Lilith, and Suydam marrying, dying on a ship, and his body being brought back and reanimated for some weird ritual underground. Instead Suydam is a scholar who has gotten a glimpse of the mythos, and wants more. He is seduced by the promise of power for those few left behind after the Cthulhuian Apocalypse. An apocalypse he intends on creating.
Speaking of Cthulhu, the creature Suydam is ultimately taking his marching orders from is called The Sleeping God. This shadowy figure is always witnessed under a dark and murky sea. Not to hard to guess who that is, is it?
Tom becomes mixed up with Suydam, and the older man's machinations. But where Suydam is not truly committed, Tom is, thanks to his father being murdered by a racist private detective working for a very scary old woman named Ma Aat. If that sounds like an Egyptian goddess, it should... That, and Malone and the police department's approval of the death, sends Tom over the edge. He goes farther than Suydam ever would. He goes all the way.
I won't give any more away. It is a solid read, with really good characters. The real monsters here are not Cthulhu and the cthultists, but rather racist America. Let's face it, the Mythos cannot really hold a candle to the Evil of Man.
Speaking of the latter I also read Lovecraft Country today by Matt Ruff. I thought it was a full length novel, but instead it is an anthology of mythos stories, with African-American protagonists. I only finished the titular story. Again, racism is the true evil here. Though there are delightfully disturbing impressions of things out in the woods, just out of sight, breaking down trees with their monstrous bulk.
It is another well-written piece, with strong characterizations. Much of the story is spent with the protagonists driving across country. A simple thing for most people, but not for a black person in the 50s. The author makes a great deal of use from The Safe Negro Travel Guide, a fictional version of a very real guide that existed to give African-Americans a list of safe hotels and restaurants they could go to while traveling, as well as warnings on where the stay away from. It is really pathetic that something like this had to exist in 20th century America. But sadly not at all surprising.
SubRosa
Jul 16 2019, 11:22 PM
I finished Lovecraft Country. While it is an collection of short stories, all those stories tie in together to tell a single, larger tale. It could be seen as a single novel. Except that each "chapter" has a different protagonist. It was good. A breath of fresh air in fact. I highly recommend it.
Today I started reading The Girl In Red by Christina Henry. It is a post apocalypse story about a girl, in red, trying to get to her grandmother's house. If it sounds a little like Little Red Riding Hood, well, that is one of the fun things about the story. The author fully embraces it, and it works. Because Red is a very well done character. We spend a great deal of time in her head, and the author breathes her in full, vibrant life.
She is a science fiction fan, and we often find her thinking in terms of what she learned from books and movies. For example: she knows to stay away from roads because that is where the government is going to set up road blocks to corral people. She knows she does not want the government getting her because they will put her in the refugee camp. She knows that during a deadly plague outbreak, a refugee camp is guaranteed to spread the disease to everyone in the camp and kill them all.
Like all the protagonists in Lovecraft Country, she is a person of color, just barely enough for people to constantly stare at her, trying to figure out what category to put her in. She is also an amputee, which was a real nice change in a protagonist as well. So far I am enjoying it immensely.
Decrepit
Jul 24 2019, 11:51 PM
At 1707 today, at the tail-end of supper, I finished my third read of Katharine Kerr's Darkspell, book two of her Deverry Cycle. As with its predecessor, I consider it standard fare, nothing special. Which won't stop me from continuing on with The Bristling Wood.
Decrepit
Aug 7 2019, 10:34 AM
At 0332 this morning I completed my second read of Katharine Kerr's The Bristling Wood, third book in her Deverry Cycle. I'll begin book four, The Dragon Revenant, by day's end.
SubRosa
Aug 9 2019, 02:02 AM
I just finished reading Ghost Days, by Asher Elbein, with artwork by Tiffany Turrill. It is an anthology of short stories about a conjure woman in Appalachian Mountains at the start of the 20th Century. It starts with how she becomes a witch, and progresses as she learns more and more of her craft, facing down Appalachian monsters. The Ewah, the Wampus Mask, the Raven Mocker, and other actual beings from Appalachian folklore are highlighted here. Plus some new ones.
I was strongly reminded of Manly Wade Wellman's Silver John stories of course, because of the same location and similar veins. But I vastly preferred Ghost Tales. For one the creatures in this are almost all drawn from real world beliefs, where I am pretty sure all of MWW's are all fictional. Though I do love some of his, like the Right Behind You (which I believe was driven to extinction by selfie sticks...). For two I liked the protagonist much more. Interesting thing, Anna is also a missing part of one of her legs, just as the protagonist from the previous story I read - The Girl In Red.
SubRosa
Aug 22 2019, 01:00 AM
Yesterday I finished reading The Lamb Will Slaughter The Lion by Margaret Killjoy. I enjoyed it greatly. It is a novella about an anarchist traveler named Danielle (not Dani!). She goes to an anarchist free town in Iowa because her best friend had come from there, and then committed suicide. She is looking for answers, and finds that the town has a guardian, which her best friend helped summon a year before. It is an Endless Spirit, and takes the form of a 3-antlered deer. It kills all predators. All predators, human, animal, etc... It cannot be killed. I cannot be stopped. Now it is killing the people who summoned it.
I like the supernatural elements of course. While they tend to call the deer a demon, the mythology behind it is not really Christian in origin, which I liked. It is a nice breath of fresh air. In fact, the author leaves that part very vague, allowing you to fill in your own blanks if you really feel a need to.
I also enjoyed the anarchist slant to it all. All the characters are anarchists in the story, living in an anarchist town, with no interference from the outside world. Again, it was a really refreshing change of pace. The villains are the villains in all anarchist philosophy: people who try to take power over others and become rulers, and kill whoever gets in their way. Where in true anarchist culture everyone is equal, everyone has an equal voice, decisions are made by group consensus, and everyone contributes to the welfare of the community. If that sounds too good to be true, see the part I mentioned about villains trying to make themselves kings of the anarchists through intimidation and murder.
Next up is Killjoy's second novella in the series - The Barrow Will Send What It May.
Decrepit
Aug 22 2019, 10:53 AM
At 0402 this morning, in bed, I finished my second read of Katharine Kerr's The Dragon Revenant, book four of her Deverry series. Not much to say about this one. It's okay, but not something I'd recommend as a 'must read' novel. I'll likely begin the next entry, A Time of Exile, by day's end.
SubRosa
Aug 27 2019, 09:47 PM
I finished Margaret Killjoy's - The Barrow Will Send What It May. It was good, as was the first. More anarchist demon hunters. This time they got tangled up with an Endless Spirit called Barrow. Well really with one of its minions, a self-made necromancer. His wife died of cancer, and so he brought her back from the dead with a spell that uses the power of Barrow.
I really liked how she did Barrow. It is the guardian of the doors between life and death. Through Barrow, you can bring someone back. But it demands its books be in the black. So for every resurrection, someone else has to die. Furthermore, they come back, but not quite the same, something is lost, and something added. A little bit of Barrow comes with them. Once enough of Barrow comes through, it can fully form itself in the mortal world. Cue the Apocalypse. So every time a necromancer brings someone back, they are literally rolling the dice with the fate of the world.
Kane
Aug 28 2019, 01:42 PM
Foundation by Isaac Asimov.
SubRosa
Aug 28 2019, 05:01 PM
Love the new avatar!
I never did read Foundation, or any of Asimov's really famous stuff.
ghastley
Aug 28 2019, 05:51 PM
I think I've read all twelve books of the Foundation trilogy.
I haven't read all 273 of his non-fiction books, either.
Kane
Aug 29 2019, 02:35 PM
QUOTE(ghastley @ Aug 28 2019, 12:51 PM)

I think I've read all twelve books of the Foundation trilogy.
Heh, I know what you mean. I looked into the series before reading and wasn't really sure where to start. Decided to just read the original three.
QUOTE(SubRosa @ Aug 28 2019, 12:01 PM)

Love the new avatar!
I never did read Foundation, or any of Asimov's really famous stuff.
Thanks!
This is my first foray into Asimov. Heard good things about his stuff.
SubRosa
Aug 31 2019, 08:16 PM
I finished the novelette The Black God's Drums, by P. Djeli Clark. It was a really cool alternative history story set in late 19th Century New Orleans. It has some steampunk, but only a little bit. Not enough to become ridiculous. There is also a little magic, which was really well done.
The two protagonists are both black women. Well one is still a child. That was really nice to see. The grown up was the captain of an airship. That being the steam punk part. And she had a mechanical prosthetic leg. The bad guys are renegade Confederates who are trying to get their hands on a magical weapon that the Haitians once used to gain their independence from France - The Black God's Drums, named after Shango. It is so terrible that they never used it again.
It was a fun adventure through an alternate world of New Orleans. I really hope to see more like it from the author.
Decrepit
Sep 3 2019, 03:55 PM
Almost forgot to mention that at 1032, 1 Sep this year, I finished my second read of Katharine Kerr's A Time of Exile, fifth entry in her Deverry series, and am now some pages into the next book, A Time of Omens. I feel the series is improving as it progresses, but for me remains standard fare.
Decrepit
Sep 8 2019, 02:01 AM
At 1035 this morning I finished my second read of Katharine Kerr's A Time of Omens. She has yet again improved as a writer, but I still don't consider these books 'must reads.' I'm now a few pages into the next volume, Days of Blood and Fire.
Decrepit
Sep 13 2019, 02:31 PM
At 1628 yesterday, during supper, I finished my second read of Kartharine Kerr's Days of Blood and Fire. I again found this an overall improvement over its predecessors, though the 'quest' she chose to end with was relatively lackluster. I'm now some pages into the next volume, Days of Air and Darkness.
Decrepit
Sep 21 2019, 03:05 AM
At 2049 this evening I completed my second read of Katharine Kerr's Days of Air and Darkness. Like other recent series' entries it was a pleasant read. Beyond that I struggle to come up with anything worth saying. I'll begin the next volume, The Red Wyvern, upon retiring for the day, likely within an hour.
SubRosa
Sep 23 2019, 10:31 PM
I just finished Ruthanna Emrys' Winter Tide. I enjoyed it immensely. It is Lovecraft without the racism, xenophobia, and sexism. The protagonist is a Deep One, who is still in the human half of her existence. She and her brother are the only two surviving members of Innsmouth, having finally been release from captivity after WWII, along with the Japanese-Americans they had been interred with. She is not the hottest chick to ever live, which is really nice to see in a story with a female lead. In fact, most humans consider her ugly (she is a Deep One before their change after all). I guess I point that out because she - Aphra - is a person, and stands and falls on her smarts and her will, not on her looks. It is sad to say that even in the 21st century, this is still a rare thing to see in print, and never in film or television.
Emry's completely reimagines the Deep Ones. They are not hybrids, they don't impregnate human women to breed. They are a branch of humanity that have always existed. Emrys has a neat prehistory that is alluded to in which humans divided into three distinct groups in the distant past to survive a catastrophe (Mythos originated of course). They became the People of the Air ('normal' humans living on the surface), the People of the Water, and the People of Earth.
I really enjoyed the inclusion of the latter, whom I correctly guessed were the people from K'n-yan. They are also referred to as "The Mad Ones". If you have read The Mound, you know why. One of the characters in the novel turns out to be descended from the Mad Ones, which I found really interesting.
The Deep Ones are really fun too. Without all the fears of miscegenation, they become an intriguing near-human race. While their goals and interests are not the same as the People of the Air, they are not cardboard cutout evil either. They are just people. Different, but people. In fact, they are no less monstrous than the 'normal' humans. That was something Emry's really hammers home. The real villains of the tale are all human, driven by nationalism, paranoia, bigotry, lust for power, and just plain foolishness.
I really enjoy her depiction of magic, which is as much mathematics as it is incantation. Rituals and spellcraft take up a large part of the book. They are the largest source of danger in the novel in fact. While Emry's puts a friendlier face on the People of Water, she does not shy away from the cold, empty indifference of the Cosmos. Nor of its cold cruelty. There are still things just beyond our perception, waiting for their chance to get in, that are utterly inimical to life. One plays a key role in the latter half of the novel. In true Weird fiction style, we never learn its name, or what it exactly is, or if it even has any real set goals. It is simply there, and killing the characters by existing.
It is the first novel of her Innsmouth Legacy series. I will be starting on the second book - Deep Roots - next, and sort of the 0 book, a short story called The Litany of Earth that seems to have kicked the whole series off.
Decrepit
Sep 28 2019, 05:03 PM
At 2237 last night I completed my second read of Katharine Kerr's The Red Wyvern, book one of The Dragon Mage, a series within her many Deverry novels. As with previous entries, there's not much to say about 'em. Decent reads, nothing overly special. Finishing Wyvern when I did, I read only a few pages of its followup, The Black Raven, before falling asleep.
Dark Reaper
Sep 28 2019, 10:54 PM
QUOTE(SubRosa @ Aug 27 2019, 03:47 PM)

I finished Margaret Killjoy's...
Isn't that
Buzz Killington's wife?
Decrepit
Oct 9 2019, 12:19 PM
At 0056, 7 Oct 2019, I finished a second read of Katharine Kerr's The Black Raven, a novel in her Dragon Mage series, which itself is a component of her extensive Deverry writings. More so than its predecessor I find much of interest within its pages, especially near the end. What's more, either Ms Kerr (or her editors) has at last rid herself of far too frequent unnecessary usage of the word 'that,' or narrative was so engrossing I subconsciously overlooked it. An irony. Its followup appears to be my last owned series entry. Had you asked prior to Dragon Mage if I planned to purchase lacking books, I'd have responded with a resounding no. That is now modified to a hesitant no. Speaking of which, I m now some pages into that followup, The Fire Dragon.
SubRosa
Oct 9 2019, 01:50 PM
In finished Ruthanna Emrys' Deep Roots and Litany of Earth. I really should have started with Litany, as it chronologically comes first, and really does a lot to create the setting. It is not a novel, just a short story. But like Emry's other work, well done.
Deep Roots continues on from Winter Tide, taking place six months later. In it the protagonists are trying to find 'Mist Born' - Deep Ones from families who had left Innsmouth before the raid, and probably do not even know their true heritage. Their goal is to try to bring them back to restart Innsmouth.
In the process they go to New York, and stumble upon an enclave of Mi-Go. I enjoyed how she portrays the Fungi from Yuggoth. They match up with Lovecraft's writings. From a certain point of view. One lacking xenophobia. Emrys' Mi-Go are more like Vulcans or the Federation than monsters. They travel the stars, and bring people with them from a dizzying number of races. They recognize that the Earth has entered a precarious time where humans might annihilate themselves in nuclear war (It is set in 1949, just before the Russians detonated their first fission bomb). They want to save humanity, but are divided over how.
The Scooby Gang is caught up in the internal conflict between the Mi-Go. Some Ghouls get drawn in. The shining trapezohedron even makes an appearance. While the story is filled win conflict, it is not the punching and shooting kind, which was nice to see. Like the Deep Ones, her portrayal of the Mi-Go is interesting and multi-layered, emphasizing the Otherness of their nature (they are not from this dimension), but also showing them as being people, rather than simply monsters.
All in all another good story. I really like how the author took HPL's monsters and told stories from their point of view. In fact, she really turns HPL's writing on its head, all without really contradicting any of it at the same time. I look forward to more.
Decrepit
Oct 16 2019, 12:09 AM
At 1643 this afternoon I concluded my second read of Katharine Kerr's The Fire Dragon, book three of her Dragon Mage trilogy, a component of her many Deverry writings. Though the series continues on, it is my last owned entry. So far as I know, there are at least four more published novels, and possibly more to come. Up until re-reading this book's immediate predecessor I did not plan to acquire remaining entries. That decision is being re-accessed. Be that as it may, I still don't consider these prime recommendations.
For the time being I've begun another re-read of the trilogy that hooked me on fantasy, Stephen Donaldson's Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever, though it's been only five and a half years since its last read.
TheCheshireKhajiit
Oct 17 2019, 02:32 AM
Hey Subbie. I found this Lovecraftian horror compilation, have you read it?
Dreams from the Witch House: Female Voices of Lovecraftian Horror
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1626411077/ref=cm...i_Qp8PDbW1X9D2S
Decrepit
Oct 18 2019, 11:01 AM
After earlier swearing I had no plans to acquire remaining Katharine Kerr Deverry novels, yesterday evening I ordered her four-book Silver Wyrm series from Amazon. (In the UK they are titled as books 4-7 of her Dragon Mage series.) What's more, the first volume in a new Deverry series is scheduled for publication next year (2020). There must be enough of a market for these books to warrant continued publication. Yet no one seems to cover/discuss them. Leastwise I've seen no such discussions. Might check it out at YouTube after breakfast, which fast approaches.
Am still reading the first Thomas Covenant book, but will likely abandon it when the Deverry books arrive next week. Problem with the Covenant books is that I remember too much of them. Need to wait longer before my next read.
SubRosa
Oct 18 2019, 01:19 PM
QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Oct 16 2019, 09:32 PM)

Hey Subbie. I found this Lovecraftian horror compilation, have you read it?
Dreams from the Witch House: Female Voices of Lovecraftian Horror
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1626411077/ref=cm...i_Qp8PDbW1X9D2SI have not seen that one before. I might try that for my next read, after the book I am currently on.
Speaking of which, DC recently put out some novels about their most iconic characters - Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, and Catwoman. I read Wonder Woman: Warbringer, by Leigh Bardugo. It was outstanding. For starters, she brings the best description of Themiskyra I have seen yet in the comics: that it was created by a group of goddesses as a refuge. The Amazons who populate it are all female warriors who died with a prayer to one of the goddesses on their lips. They are then reborn in Themiskyra.
Diana is of course different in that she is Hippolyta's daughter. She is still made from clay. But Zeus is out of the picture (unlike in the regular comics). That was so much better, given that Zeus never met a woman he did not rape. That especially jarred me in the Wonder Woman movie from a few years back.
Because she was made of clay, some of the other Amazons call Diana Pyxis: a hollow clay pot that is easily breakable. In this story she is the least of the Amazons. She has never been tested. Never proven herself, or her worthiness to be on the island. That is always nagging at Diana, and is one of the things that drives her to the adventure that takes up the book. She needs to prove not only to the others, but more importantly to herself, that she is good enough to be counted among the others.
I think we all know that she is. But by taking things back to this early stage, the author gives a look at a Diana we are not used to seeing. One not yet sure of herself. One with doubts, and a lot to prove. It is very refreshing, and really goes a long way to humanize a character that can otherwise seem so awesome as to be unapproachable and unrelatable.
The rest of the characters are good. I liked how Hippolyta herself appears to have been a Sarmatian or Scythian in her original life. A nice nod to the reality of female warriors on the steppe, and the belief that the Greek myths of Amazons were probably inspired by the reality of Scythian and Sarmatian women.
While the characters are definitely multi-cultural (another thing I liked), the plot is deeply immersed in Greek mythology. The Warbringer is a direct descendant of Helen of Troy, the latest in a long line of such women. Her mere existence causes strife and war. Diana is protecting her, and racing to find a way to exorcise her from the curse, and break the chain of Warbringers forever. Others who know of the Warbringer are trying to kill her, to prevent another world war. And still others want to protect her, to start that war.
It is a good book all around. Good characters, good story, good settings, inspired ideas. I highly recommend it.
Based on Warbringer, I decided to try to the Catwoman book, Soulstealer, by Sarah J Maas. I am a quarter of the way into it. So far I am liking it, though not as much as I did Warbringer. In this one Selina is a street rat who was taken in by Talia Al'Ghul, and trained by the League of Assassins. That was good in that it explains why she can be such a badass. But it does leave me kind of scratching my head as well. I mean, Catwoman is a well, cat-burglar, not an assassin. So I am wondering how her being in the League is going to play out.
The plot has her returning to Gotham after several years away training in the League of Assassins. I am not quite sure what her goals are just yet. Just that she is back on a mission for the League, and it somehow involves bringing Gotham to its knees. Not the best story really.
One of the other main characters is Batwing, and we see a lot written from his pov. I was delighted at that. I liked him in the few appearances I have seen of him in the animated movies. It is nice to see a bat that can actually fly! He has been really well done as a Marine wounded by an IED in the middle east. Now out of the service, he has returned home to Gotham, and is suffering from PTSD. The latter was a good touch. As with the WW book, it humanizes him.
Batman himself has not made any appearances yet. In the book they say he is out of town on some secret mission. That is fine by me. I am tired of Batman. Just like I am tired of the Joker. I would much rather see stories about newer characters like Batwing and Batwoman. TBH, I wish they did not have the Bat part in their names and histories at all. They are good characters in their own rights, and to me the Bat association feels more like an albatross holding them down than anything else.
Decrepit
Oct 19 2019, 03:41 PM
Received an email from Amazon yesterday. My book order shipped. It arrives today! Darn quick for standard non-Prime free delivery! Except. Only two of four ordered books are included. Volumes three and four. Guess I'll continue reading Donaldson.
Know nothing about volumes one and two. Assume they are being shipped from a different distributor or warehouse?
A YouTube search for Katharine Kerr yielded expected results. Ms Kerr and her many Deverry books are pretty much ignored. A few Book Tubers mention acquiring one or more of the books and/or adding them to to-be-read lists, That's the extent of it thus far.
On the other hand, several volumes, including the first, are available at YT as audio-books.
Listened to a bit of the above link. Decent reading. Didn't notice Ms. Kerr's sometimes gross overuse of 'that.' Either this reading is from a later, better-edited edition, or I'm not as picky a listener as I am a reader.
ADDENDUM:
Sunday morning. First email check of day. Notice from Amazon. The remaining two books in my recent order shipped. They are scheduled to arrive tomorrow.
Decrepit
Oct 25 2019, 04:09 PM
As expected, a two-book Amazon shipment arrived late Monday morning. It included volume one of Katharine Kerr's The Silver Wyrm. However, the day prior I ceased reading Stephen Donaldson's Lord Faul's Bane, fearing I might become hooked and end up reading the entire First and Second Chronicles. Chose instead Larwence Watt-Evans' The Misenchanted Sword, a book read four times, most recently late Feb 2006. A safer bet, I thought. Nope, I'm hooked. Gonna finish it before tackling Kerr. (I'm maybe halfway through.) A plus; though I own several other Watt-Evans books set in same world, and they do relate to each other, they're all standalone novels. I'll be less tempted to read the lot before moving on. Or so I hope.
Decrepit
Oct 28 2019, 10:45 AM
At 0257 this morning, awake for some time after waking with a neck too sore to allow sleep, I finished my fourth read of Lawrence Watt-Evans' The Miscenchanted Sword. An enjoyable book. Rather low key, featuring someone about as far from a 'hero' or 'villian' as possible. Just your average Joe (for his time and setting) who chances upon a brief magical encounter in his twenties and has to cope with its aftermath the rest of his (intentionally) mundane life. I like this sort of character. They're encountered too seldom in fantasy literature (as main characters) to suit me.
With the above behind me, I can now resume Katharine Kerr's Deverry novels, and will begin The Gold Falcon later today.
Decrepit
Nov 5 2019, 02:11 AM
At 1037 today, during lunch, I finished my initial read of Katharine Kerr's The Gold Falcon, book one of The Sllver Wyrm, a novel of Deverry. As with previous Deverry entries it is entertaining, but not a book I can rave about. I'm already some pages into its followup, The Spirit Stone.
Decrepit
Nov 12 2019, 11:56 AM
At 1958 yesterday evening, 11/11/2019, I finished my initial read of Katharine Kerr's The Spirit Stone, one of her many Deverry novels. As with other entries in this series, I've little to say about them. Decent reads, nothing special. (Yet I went out of my way to order the four-book sub-series to which Spirit Stone belongs, a great rarity for me these days.)
I'm now some pages into its followup, The Shadow Isle.
Decrepit
Nov 19 2019, 12:58 PM
At 2256 yesterday evening, lying on the sofa, I finished my initial read of Katharine Kerr's The Shadow Isle, book three of The Silver Wyrm, itself a component of her vast Deverry writings. Like its predecessors, I find it a decent novel. Worth reading, but I'll not go out of my way to recommend it.
I'm now several pages into what is, as of now, Ms. Kerr's final Deverry entry, book four of Silver Wyrm, The Silver Mage.
Decrepit
Nov 25 2019, 01:54 AM
I'm still reading The Silver Mage, but noticed this fine audio reading of
Eye of the World, book one of Wheel of Time, at YouTube. Very nice narration. Don't know how legit this posting is. It might not be available for long. Then again, it might.
Listened to it a while. Man is Jordan a fine writer!, as if I need to be reminded of that. He so outclasses Kerr (and most other writers) it might take me some time to readjust when I take up Silver Mage at bedtime.
Uleni Athram
Dec 1 2019, 04:18 PM
The Artesia comics. Dear lord, this is shaping up to be quite the journey!
Decrepit
Dec 3 2019, 01:37 PM
At 0327 this morning, lying on the sofa, neck hurting too much to sleep, I finished my initial read of Katharine Kerr's The Silver Mage, the last of her many Deverry books to date. It's been an enjoyable journey, despite a bit of rough sailing early on. This closing novel in no way alters my opinion of the series, for good or ill. Decent reads. Nothing overly special, though individual books have their moments.
At the moment I have absolutely no idea what I want to tackle next.
Decrepit
Dec 5 2019, 10:10 PM
I settled on The Summer Tree, book one of The Fionavar Tapestry by Guy Gavriel Kay. I'm not far in, and find it slow going. For one thing, it's a book I like very much. I've read it six times before, most recently late 2015. That's a problem, in that I remember it TOO well. (A great rarity for me.) Also, it begins with a trope I'm not overly fond of - persons from this world and time being transported to an alternate reality, where they not only survive and thrive, but become movers and shakers in that world. I rarely find this scenario convincing. As fine a writer as Kay is, the lead-up to the crossing doesn't convince here. I thought so my initial read. Subsequent reads haven't convinced me otherwise. That said, once in their new environment things begin to improve. Pretty soon I'll be as hooked as ever. Or so I hope.
SubRosa
Dec 5 2019, 10:18 PM
QUOTE(Decrepit @ Dec 5 2019, 04:10 PM)

I settled on The Summer Tree, book one of The Fionavar Tapestry by Guy Gavriel Kay. I'm not far in, and find it slow going. For one thing, it's a book I like very much. I've read it six times before, most recently late 12015. That's a problem, in that I remember it TOO well. (A great rarity for me.) Also, it begins with a trope I'm not overly fond of - persons from this world and time being transported to an alternate reality, where they not only survive and thrive, but become movers and shakers in that world. I rarely find this scenario convincing. As fine a writer as Kay is, the lead-up to the crossing doesn't convince here. I thought so my initial read. Subsequent reads haven't convinced me otherwise. That said, once in their new environment things begin to improve. Pretty soon I'll be as hooked as ever. Or so I hope.
I read the first two books of the Tapestry around a decade or more ago. So they are a little fuzzy now. But I recall feeling that there were just too many characters. They each did not seem to get enough time individually to show their adaptations and growth in the new world. Instead the story seemed to rush through their various acclimations. I think it would have been a better story with only one protagonist, or at the most two, so that a lot more attention could have been given to their development.