QUOTE(DoomedOne @ Oct 28 2005, 09:24 PM)
Actually above 145 in genius. 130+ is gifted I believe. I believe at your age I was 133, maybe 134, I'm not sure, but now I'm 136, my Dad is 144. 120 is not genius. Anyway, Genius is not in accordance with the IQ test. Genius is not just being able to foigure out which shapes go with other shapes, it's much deeper than that. There's an old saying, "Humans are tolerant of everything but genius."
Ah, I only knew that anything above 120 was above the American average. Oh, there's another old saying related to genius. "Talent is what a man possesses. Genius is what posesses a man." So, by that logic, if you know how you figured something out, you're just very smart. If you just know things, and have no idea how, then you're a genius. By that logic, I'm not a genius, and if I am, only a mild one. Very rarely does anything come from inspiration.
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Funny though, I think around puberty I lost my popularity as well... around 7th grade and it didn't come back until 11th grade. Of course, I still hate my parents impulsively but I'm rather glad I do. I mean, my parents have made each other two of the most unhappy people I have ever met. According to Freud, in relationships you usually act like your parent did (boys act like their dads and girl act like their moms) and typically they are naturally attracted to partners who acted like the other parents. In that sense, I'm extremely thankful that I try to do everything the opposite of my parents.
Eh, as far as I'm concerned, my parents are just other people. (With two exceptions: They brought me into this world, and they pay for my stuff) I'll hang out with them when I want to, if not, I won't. I don't hate my parents, I don't hate anyone, but I don't hang out with them much. My mother changes her story all the time, so it's impossible to pin her down on any specific facts, and is religious, and hates the fact that I'm not. (Doesn't hate me, just that I'm not religious, specifically, that I'm not a Christian) My father I rarely see, as he uses his computer a lot, not to mention working all day. I see him five minutes in the morning and five minutes at night, maybe more if I go and get myself a midnight snack, plus a little on weekends. (He's agnostic so he had no problem with my religious preferences) And I haven't noticed any correllation between how the girl I have a crush on and my mother act. In fact, besides physical/mental attraction I like her because my mother wouldn't. (Rebellious, ain't I?

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I'm a little too idealistic to just shun humanity out. I see hope in every person and I try to bring that out. I have a different perspective on life though. I see it sort of like a machine you have on loan for like 60-80 years that you simply deposit back into the cycle of life when your finished, and you can do whatever you want with it. Why shut it away and with-hold it so selfishly from humanity? I mean, I can understand being happier just keeping people away, but happiness is little more than a few chemicals traveling from one sector to another in your brain. Happiness is meant solely to condition humans to repeat something, and nothing more. Sure, it's easier to do things when your happy but aside from that it's more important to me to help people.
Eh, I've seen little or no benefit to letting people into my self made walls. I do my best thinking when I'm alone, and very often, simply being near people who I don't like actually gives me headaches, even if they are leaving my alone and not doing anything. People I like or have an apathetic attitude towards I haveno problem with, although I still see no real benefit for me to hang out with people, usually. Sometimes I do want to be near people, but I live in the suburbs, so I can walk just about anywhere I need to go, or ride my bike. And, failing that, I could always catch a bus, they're fairly cheap. If I think if great ideas, I can post them on the internet, and I'm sure that there will be somebody who will use them for their own reasons if the ideas were any good in the first place.
Why keep my life from humanity? Why not? I have met very few people who wanted to hear my ideas. If a person wants something from me, they can ask, and if possible, I'll give it freely.
And as to the happiness thing: I rarely feel happy. I don't like to feel happy. Melancholy is the feeling that is my preffered state. I don't like sunshine and daisies, I like dark and stormy days with thunder and lightning. Or grey days with a cold breeze blowing a light drizzle through the air. As far as I'm concerned, a particular state of feeling isn't required for me to do something. Happiness is not an emotion I enjoy, because it is that much harder to control it. I am not happy when I am alone, I am contemplative.
QUOTE(Channler @ Oct 28 2005, 09:51 PM)
I'm wondering..
Are you all Emo's? Cause it sorta sounds like it
Nope. The closest stereotype o fit me would be Gothic. While I'm not a druggy, I wear dark clothing, hang out with Gothic people because they tend to understand my thoughts better, ect... Emo is overly emotional, people who would consider suicide. While life isn't great (if you do think life is great, never read any of my poetry, it will frain your will to live

) I wouldn't kill myself, because for all I know, whatever's after life could be far, far worse. Like I said, Emo is overly emotional, while I believe I said I try to lock my emotions up.
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Hah, why hate your parents? What do you gain from that? A harder life. Thats what you gain. I can't particularly say I like my parents all the time but I've recognized that my life and their life have and will never exist in the same type of planar existance. I guess simply put, I love my parents, and I don't think without their support and possibly my churches I would make it too far in life. (At least consider a church a support network you anti-religion peeps)
Hate tends to complicate things. I don't hate anyone, as hate is a strong word. I dislike people, yes. But hat is an emotion I reserve for people who do truly horrible things. (murder, serial killings, rape, torture, anything sick and twisted)
I am not Christian, and am an aetheist. Of religions I have researched, the closest to something I could believe would be Wiccan, but I'm not going to convert to Wiccan for the practical reason that I don't know enough about the religion to devote myself to it. While I'mnot Christian, and I argue with many of their beliefs, I can understand the need for religion as an anchor, something familiar to hold on to. I will debate religion, and disagree with religious people, but I value the oppinion of a person just as highly no matter what religion they belong to, it simply makes no real difference to me. (Unless their religion is based on human sacrifice, but there aren't too many openly confessed Satanists where I live)
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Hey Kindred, didn't you say you didn't need a use for violence or something like that, like when I said something about shooting someone if they were stalking me?
These were slightly different circumstances. These people and I had some bad history together. We had met five years before, and were initially friends, and then we just stopped seeing eachother. It happens sometimes. Next time I saw them, they threw bricks at my. The time after that, one of them lifted me off the ground by my throat. Over the years, the beat me up several times. They made up rumors that I was homosexual. I ignored the rumors, figuring that it wasn't exactly that big an insult (as far as I can tell, there's nothing wrong with being homosexual, just because it's not my thing doesn't mean it's bad) and that nobody would believe it anyways. I found that, after that, some people avoided me a lot. I lost a lot of respect for people in general then, what with people making things up, people believing them, and the homophobia. They had hurt me on several occasions, hurt people for being my friends as well. And that was ealy in the morning. I'm not a morning person, especially when I get two hours of sleep as I had that night, and they were annoying me worse than usual. So yes, I did hurt him. Any you know what? It didn't solve anything. The solution only came when the people involved split up. (one deciding to find better things in life that picking on people, I had only been one of his favorite targets, and the othe coming out of the closet with some other guy, and deciding that he couldn't mock me even if his rumors turned out to be true)
The particular thing I said was that I didn't have a gun becase I was usually nonviolent, and too young, and because I usually try to avoid physical confrontations, I keep my name off the internet, making it more difficult to find me. Not that I actually think that someone is going to hunt me down from my name alone and actually find me, and do through all this trouble to kidnap a lower middle class guy. It's just a precaution that I take because it costs nothing, and had possible good sideeffects and no bad side effects that I can think of. I'll just use the alias Kindred Spirit when I need to say something, or use some kind of name or another for something. I was saying that I don't have a gun because I am usually anti-violent. Besides, as far as I can tell, shooting somebody in the heart is a few orders of magnitude more serious than twisting someone's arm, causing no serious or permanent damage. (He only thought I was going to break his arm, it wasn't near the breaking point. He isn't the toughest kid in the world)
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And another thing, whats with this stalking/gathering info/being cold hearted/ crap? Everything you describe about yourself reminds me of the rejects of the school that everyones dispises because there arrogant, stuck up, emo'ish (usually), and rejecting of society. You only have one life to live.. Why waist it? Sure sometimes I like going home and reading a book by myself, but its been made a fact that humans are social creatures and tend to do alot better in social enviroments.
Info gathering- This is simply keeping track of things I see. For example, I saw somebody go into a house immediately after school and drop their backpack on the ground, logically, I can assume they live there. I see someone going up to a locker, and opening it with the combination. Logically, I can assume that it is their locker. My brain retains information, both useless and useful, very easily. That is why I do good at school, my mind easily retains trivia. My brain eeps track of everything I know about everyone I know. Thus, information gathering, for me, is actually just something automatic. As long as my mind isn't preoccupied, I can usually remember things that happen. Otherwise, my brain doesn't remember, since it didn't make much of a note of it. See, not as big a deal as it was made out to be.
Cold Hearted- I can't speak for King Death, but for me, I act cold hearted because it makes it easier to stay away from people. I prefer to keep people at an arms length, and it helps if they aren't purposely coming after you. It isn't true, nor is the charade particularly well done, and people who really want to see through it, can. It is only something I use to keep people away from me to give me time to consider what to do, and to give me alone time.
Rejects of the School- Perhaps. I get along well enough with most people, I just prefer them not to get too close. (Physically, mentally, or emotionally) I am claustrophobic, and can't stand crowds, or enclosed spaces, or anything like that for long stretches of time. I also like to have mental and emotional room to breath, so to say. I like not having serious obligations to people, and I like them not to have serious obligations to me.
Arrogant- I don't think of myself as arrogant, but other's might, as one is always too close to oneself to be a pure and objective judge of character. I don't consider myself better than everyone, and I recongnize that other people are better than me at many things. I know that just because I am better at people at one thing, that doesn't mean that they can't be better than me at something else. I usually cleanly out argue one of my friends in religious/philosophical debates, but he almost always beats me at war-technology discusions, as he has more knowledge, both practical and otherwise, than me about this. I am better at some people at mathematics, but they may be better at physical things, or anything else. I might be better than somebody in any one area, but they might be better than me at other things. Even those who say that they aren't better than me at anything (not many people, but a few have said this) may be downplaying their own talents, or not considering them themselves. I don't disreguard someone's oppinion in an area even if I am better than them at that, I consider it, and if it seems valid, add it to what I was doing, and if not, have a discussion with them about that area, seeing if one of us was confused. (It has happened before that I was wrong about something, even though I thought I was right, and had no confusion in my mind whatsoever. If a person is not as good as me at something, and wants help, I'll help. If they are not as good as me and don't want help, I'll trust that they know what they are doing, and won't help them unless they ask.
Emo'ish- Like I said, an Emo is someone overly emotional. Somebody who cries at night because nobody likes them/something bad happened or someone who threatens to commit suicide. Someone overly dramatic. Once again, I don't consider myself an Emo, but you may have your own, differing oppinion, which isn't necesarily wrong, and it is entirely up to you to decide what you think. I can't change it, if I could I wouldn't as everyone is entitled to their own oppinion.
Rejecting of Society- Yes, I suppose I am rather rejecting of society, but I don't see it as as big a deal as you seem to. I seem to be perfectly fine on my own, and if I need society for something, it's right there, so I'll live with the fact that it lives next door rather than in my home.
QUOTE(DoomedOne @ Oct 29 2005, 12:10 AM)
You'll make a great president Channler, passing off judgement without bothering considering people as people. Classifying them into groups so they no longer become humans in your eyes... it's the American way.
I think you're being a little overly judgemental here. I think he's just trying to say something, and while I disagree with it, he may have a point. A person cannot be an impertial judge for anyone, especially themselves, but no one else either, as predjudices are instantly formed with every piece of knowledge about someone. Since all of our jdgements are flawed, I see no reason that his own oppinion may not be as valid as our own.
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Channler, I'm not emo, and here's why:
I leave my baggage where it belongs. When I walk into Karate, Football, Wrestling, one of my Activist meetings, class or anything else, I don't carry my crap in with me. With my friends, I'm a friend.
But despite that, I'm very offended by you using the term emo. Yes, I call people emo too weho bring their drama with them where ever they go, but you call people Econazis because they care about the environment, I mean, it seems like you're trying to start some sort of class war.
Yeah, that doesn't sound very Emo to me.
I am not Emo in my oppinon because I do not go around with everything that happens to me, carrying it around. I also don't express it often in public. Will I sometimes be dramatic, just for fun? Yeah, from time to time. Do I honestly carry around enough emotional baggage to keep an army of flight attendants busy? No.
As far as social classes go, the closest I can think of would be Gothic. If not for reasons I stated before, then for this one: I don't go out in the sun. I avoid the sun, I get a ride places on sunny days, I walk on the gry/cloudy days.
For this post, I tried to place aside cynicism, pessimism, and sarcasm as much as possible, and honestly give my oppinion.