Well Fallout4 does try to force you on the path set by the intro. You can hardly talk to anyone in the biggest settlement without your character asking about your missing child, which if you are playing a concerned parent that makes sense. There’s only one way to play that though. You can’t be the disinterested parent who just wants to start over. This one feels we should have been given the option to forget about the kid and just live out our life in this new environment, but that’s hard to do when your character is telling random strangers all about their problem, which we aren’t supposed to be concerned about.

Yeah I hear ya, Khajiit.

Back on topic: has anyone read any reviews of 76 which they'd like to share? I know I can just search for one, but I want to find something somebody here has digested.

Khajiit has not. This one just isn’t interested in this game.

Jim Sterling and Angry Joe have both done some good videos on it, shared their thoughts and experiences.

Thanks!

Angry Joe though.... he's always so angry! I'll have a look at Sterling's review if I can find it.

Progress = removing things

I am now seeing memes about 500 Atoms, so I am guessing that Bethesda just did something stupid with Fallout 76,

Yeah, they advertised a canvas bag to carry the stupid power armor helmet that came with the collector’s edition but then the bag that cane with it was made of nylon so people were pissed. In response Bethesda at first said they couldn’t do anything about but then when the complaints escalated they issued people 500 atoms (which are live electronic currency for micro transactions), which amounts to about 5 real life dollars. Sad.

Indeed. It’s like they learned nothing from the HAF (Horse Armour Fiasco).

Hey, Horse Armor rocks! I don't care what any of y'all say!

Horse armour is awesome. The way Bethesda implemented it was not.

Also, even if people wanted to buy anything with those 500 atoms, it's not enough to get very much. I think 500 atoms can get a player a hairstyle?

Perhaps ironically, the in-game postal worker outfit has a canvas bag - and the outfit can be yours for 700 atoms.

Indeed. It’s just ridiculous.

That same hairstyle worth 500 Atoms is free in Fallout 4. That kind of thing is free in any game with mods. That is one reason I won't play online games. They make their money with micro-transactions like outfits and skins, and hair. Things that are free in the games I play. It is like paying money to breathe air.

Yeah, but it’s a big deal for some people to be able to play with other folks (especially people they are already friendly with). In multiplayer games you can’t have mods because of cheating and the microtransactions do help support the game since the development cycle isn’t a one and done thing. That said, if you aren’t interested in playing with other people then there’s no reason to play a game like this.

Bah, friends are just the people you have not eaten yet...

Bahahahaha!!! Yet.

Why? I don't get it, I never have. Somebody please explain this to me!

Here. This article explains it pretty well.

It'll be a while before I play, but I have a copy sitting at home. $35 was hard to pass up, especially since any coming DLC was said to be free. At some point, expect a report!

Khajiit might look at it when it’s in the $5 junk bin.

Hmm. I can see why a lot of people got upset I guess, me personally though, I had no problem. I bought it for Xbox in 2012, along with all the other DLC I couldn't get on PS3; the total bill was less than half what I spend on groceries every week. So I am pretty happy with that.

Yeah it was a bigger deal closer to when the game launched.

More good news on the Fallout 76 front

So, did anyone play this dumpster-fire of a game?

Oh yeah, that was a big stink when that came out.


Khajiit did not. Probably will not.

I have been lurking the new Beth forums off and on and I'm not really seeing much negativity anymore. Most of the people playing the game right now are simply enjoying it. Some claim to be bored, some want their money back, but the vast majority are playing it without complaint. In fact I went over to those forums specifically so I could find some good rant material to read as I was eating lunch yesterday (cheap entertainment, lol). At worst, gamers are complaining about minor facets of the game, mostly balancing issues between players / loot / monsters, etc.

I'm not playing it, I have no interest in MMOs or co-ops, but I do like keeping tabs on what's going on.

To be honest, Khajiit would probably play the hell out of a proper Fallout mmo in the same vein as ESO, but proper mmo 76 is not.

Correct, it is not an MMO. More like a larger-scale co-op, I guess.

I want to revamp my statement above too. I used the word "enjoying" (most people are enjoying the game) and that's not exactly true, maybe I just caught a good day or something. They are playing it though, even as they complain about this or that, a lot of them are still playing it. And a lot do seem to be enjoying, just not all of them.

Bethy getting closer and closer to a product I'll enjoy a lot. Today they rolled out a Survival Mode for 76, and renamed the existing game mode "Adventure Mode". They also tweaked the PvP in Adventure Mode so that another player cannot damage you at all unless you return fire.

Maybe one day they will work their way back to getting this game to the type of game it should have been. Nice to see they are making an effort to correct some of their missteps.

Definitely. I also read that a future update will add human NPCs to the game.

It's sounding more like something I'd get, too. Might pick it up when it comes to Steam.

Hmm. Now I'm paying attention to Fallout76. Thank you for the info!

That is awesome! Just a shame that it took Beth 100G of updating to get there.

Installed last night. Only played for a little bit as I was tired, but I made an Appalachian American named Duane Barry and explored around the vault. Gorgeous game, so far.

Sweet, I am glad one of us is trying this game.

Do you have it on the Bethesda launcher? How does it work for you? I haven't heard great things about the launcher, so I am hesitant to get it there. But I also buy games off of GOG whenever possible so that not everything I play on PC is through Steam. I want the competition. I know it is coming to Steam this year but I don't think they have announced a date yet. I'll install it on the Bethesda launcher as long as the launcher works well.

I do have it on the Bethesda launcher, yes. I had zero issues redeeming the my code or downloading the game. I let it download in the background while I played Skyrim, and then jumped right in without hassle.
I've had the launcher installed for some time for the Creation Kit, and it's never given me an issue.

Can second that the launcher is not bad. Works fine with Creation Kit.

You also get PC access to Fallout Shelter, if you are in to that kind of thing.

Been a while since this forum was posted in. Was wondering what folks think about Bethesda's latest shenanigans regarding this game. Me, I'm not a Fallout guy, so can smile and remain above it all.

I think Bethesda was feeling jealous of all the good press that companies like EA and Epic Games have been getting. So they had to do something to work their way onto this list of worthies.

I am not a Fallout 76 person, so I can sit back and laugh too.

Yeah Bethesda Game Studios are so far out of touch. It’s one thing to release a bad game, I mean, every studio is capable of that. It happens. But 76... it ought to be criminal how they’ve mishandled almost every aspect of this game.

It was a train wreck from the very start. An mmo with no NPCs? Great idea. How about a racing game with no race track?

I couldn't watch the video, those guys immediately got on my nerves! What exactly is going on? (I don't feel like Googling).

Whatever it is, I just hope Beth doesn't try to make ES6 an MMO or even a co-op. I hope all their blunders with 76 has made them definitely keep my favorite series single-player, without even a thought of anything else.

I can't, even though I don't have the game. This is so disappointing to see. I love Fallout and I really want this game to succeed, but there is always some new controversy popping up for this game. I want to try this game out myself at some point, but Bethesda is really making it hard to justify doing so.




As annoying and overblown as the anti-Bethesda circlejerk is (not saying you are part of it, of course, Khajiit), I find it very hard to believe that it is the usual gamer outrage against Bethesda when the game is getting constantly lambasted for all sorts of issues. Bethesda has been very disappointing with their overall handling of this game.

Now admittedly, I haven't looked into all the details about this latest issue, but from I understand about all the issues in general, I don't see how Bethesda can be justified in even the majority of the issues. The canvas bags. The excessive amount of bugs even for a Bethesda game. PvP. Unbelievably absurd prices for cosmetics. And now this.

I love BGS. Their games have brought me an immense amount of joy and they gave me my favorite (TES) and one of my favorite (Fallout) series. But I won't be an apologist for them. I hope this isn't just BGS trying to press their luck with consumers or being complacent with their games. This makes me concerned about what will happen with Starfield and TESVI.




I guarantee that won't happen, at least. We already have an Elder Scrolls MMO and they haven't shown any interest in regular co-op previously. Still, I am concerned about what this potentially means for TESVI (and to a lesser extent, Starfield).

Fallout 76 was just released on Steam a couple days ago. I've been reading up on their free Wastelanders expansion and it sounds like the game has gotten a lot better. Although it is anecdotal, I've been seeing fairly positive responses from some people. I've put it on my wishlist.

Still, the game is $40, and I am not confident enough in pulling the trigger on it. I'm a bit of a cheapskate anyway, but I'm still a bit hesitant to buy it. If there is a decent discount on it, I'll probably try it out. The most interesting aspects of Fallout for me are the world and the lore, and those for Fallout 76 look intriguing. For all Bethesda's faults, they are damn good at making exploration interesting. We'll see what happens when a discount rolls around.

Wasn't Fallout 76 always on Steam?

Ok, I just saw it was only on Bethesda.Net before. Interesting.