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mALX
QUOTE(mirocu @ Oct 31 2016, 06:56 AM) *

No, it uses the same account as the former Beth.net.



Oh good. Now all I have to do is remember what I used and the password, lol.


Lopov
Looks like there won't be any advanced PM system like it is on Beth (or here). All I can see is the chat function which remained from the first version but not an actual PM feature.
mirocu
QUOTE(Lopov @ Nov 1 2016, 10:08 AM) *

Looks like there won't be any advanced PM system like it is on Beth (or here). All I can see is the chat function which remained from the first version but not an actual PM feature.

They keep not selling this to me wink.gif
Lopov
QUOTE(mirocu @ Nov 1 2016, 10:19 AM) *

QUOTE(Lopov @ Nov 1 2016, 10:08 AM) *

Looks like there won't be any advanced PM system like it is on Beth (or here). All I can see is the chat function which remained from the first version but not an actual PM feature.

They keep not selling this to me wink.gif


I only use the Beth forums for PMs these days, especially since they moved the FO section to Bethesda.net where it unfortunately 'died'. I doubt I'll be active on the new forums even when they launch in full.
ghastley
Since Bethesda.net will be the only source for XBox1 mods, I'll probably post mine there once converted to SSE, and that will mean monitoring the forum there for feedback.

I note that there are more XB1 mods than PC there, implying that some mod-makers are using only the Nexus for the PC versions. I think I'll do that, too. I don't want to move off the Nexus, and supporting the same copy in two places would be a pain.
mALX
QUOTE(ghastley @ Nov 1 2016, 02:03 PM) *

Since Bethesda.net will be the only source for XBox1 mods, I'll probably post mine there once converted to SSE, and that will mean monitoring the forum there for feedback.

I note that there are more XB1 mods than PC there, implying that some mod-makers are using only the Nexus for the PC versions. I think I'll do that, too. I don't want to move off the Nexus, and supporting the same copy in two places would be a pain.



How do you convert them for the XB1? Isn't it a different code language, etc? I mean, what do you have to do for your mods to work on the consoles?

And by the way, that is exciting that people are already clamoring for your mods to be converted, congrats !!!


ghastley
QUOTE(mALX @ Nov 2 2016, 04:45 PM) *

How do you convert them for the XB1? Isn't it a different code language, etc? I mean, what do you have to do for your mods to work on the consoles?

It's just a question of saving for XBox1 from the CK. It has extra options on the File menu for that. I've haven't yet worked out whether it's a "save and upload" or "save for upload".

There are also more menu options for the PC, one of which appears to include uploading to Bethesda.net. They may be "just save the esp", and "save the esp, and update my Load Order" or something similar, as you have the ability to launch the game for testing from inside the CK.

PC's and Xbox use the same CPU architecture, and PS4 may also, as that changed from PS3. But the mod files don't have any code that's compiled down that far. The pex files are interpreted by a Papyrus run-time, just like Java can run on any machine. PS4 has a bit extra to do for graphic conversion (no DirectX on PS4), but that's done as part of the save process.

mALX
QUOTE(ghastley @ Nov 2 2016, 05:23 PM) *

QUOTE(mALX @ Nov 2 2016, 04:45 PM) *

How do you convert them for the XB1? Isn't it a different code language, etc? I mean, what do you have to do for your mods to work on the consoles?

It's just a question of saving for XBox1 from the CK. It has extra options on the File menu for that. I've haven't yet worked out whether it's a "save and upload" or "save for upload".

There are also more menu options for the PC, one of which appears to include uploading to Bethesda.net. They may be "just save the esp", and "save the esp, and update my Load Order" or something similar, as you have the ability to launch the game for testing from inside the CK.

PC's and Xbox use the same CPU architecture, and PS4 may also, as that changed from PS3. But the mod files don't have any code that's compiled down that far. The pex files are interpreted by a Papyrus run-time, just like Java can run on any machine. PS4 has a bit extra to do for graphic conversion (no DirectX on PS4), but that's done as part of the save process.



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So, does this mean you don't have to actually change anything about the mods, just load them up to the Bethnet site?


ghastley
I don't know what the CK is doing differently, but no, I don't need to change anything, however ...

The CK will "fix" things that are different in SE, so there's still some work to do finding out what happened when it loaded up. It made poor Uzi's little head explode, until I found the change to the mouth she was using. It uses a new nif format, and saves the FaceGen data for you automatically (using that new format), so I had a lot of work opening and re-saving before her head was saved properly.

I still have to wait before I publish that piece, as it would be cruel to let people adopt her before she can live at the Stronghold. That part needs Hearthfires Multiple Adoptions, which hasn't been ported yet, possibly because it needs SKSE64.

I'm working on Argonian Hearthfires now. So there's a Spreads-her-Thighs for Special Edition, who's struggling up to level 14 so she can do all the quests.

mALX
QUOTE(ghastley @ Nov 5 2016, 10:09 AM) *

I don't know what the CK is doing differently, but no, I don't need to change anything, however ...

The CK will "fix" things that are different in SE, so there's still some work to do finding out what happened when it loaded up. It made poor Uzi's little head explode, until I found the change to the mouth she was using. It uses a new nif format, and saves the FaceGen data for you automatically (using that new format), so I had a lot of work opening and re-saving before her head was saved properly.

I still have to wait before I publish that piece, as it would be cruel to let people adopt her before she can live at the Stronghold. That part needs Hearthfires Multiple Adoptions, which hasn't been ported yet, possibly because it needs SKSE64.

I'm working on Argonian Hearthfires now. So there's a Spreads-her-Thighs for Special Edition, who's struggling up to level 14 so she can do all the quests.



Child: "Would you like to adopt me and give me a new home?"

Prospective adopter: "I would love for you to come home with me, I will be your Pa and we will be a family!"

Child: "KABOOM!" (head explodes)

Prospective adopter: *sigh* (goes to Gweden "Inn") ... "Hello there, Spreads-her-Thighs!" (lays 20 gold on nightstand) "The usual, please..."



ghastley
The primary site and the mods server use one avatar image, but the new forums have another. At some point, I need to get them reconciled, but in the meantime, Diablita's getting some air-time.

I'm amazed at the rate that XBox users are downloading mods. Bosmer Heartfires has just about caught up to the total downloads on PC, old and new combined!

What I don't like about the Bethesda mod site is that I can't link to the Fake Wiki for the extra information that won't fit in the 2500 word description. I'm not happy about the way the "box-cover" image gets cropped from its already small 260x260 when displayed. It's hard to figure if title text will show properly. And why 1315x740 for screenshots? That's a strange size to pick, that doesn't get used for anything else.

Notifications are a bit of a flood, too. There may be ways of turning some of it off, but I need to distinguish questions that need answering from like/rating/follow stuff that needs no response.

Edit: And it's now PC- 146+50=196; XB1-926 for the Bosmer one. Similar numbers for the others.
ghastley
Don't they teach logic in schools any more?

There's a thread over at Bethesda.net that claims that all crashes are caused by shortage of memory, "because when I run out of memory, it always crashes".

I replied that logic doesn't work like that. The Ancient Greeks understood that; I am ancient, therefore I am Greek, and I understand. It's only logical. laugh.gif
TheCheshireKhajiit
QUOTE(ghastley @ Nov 10 2016, 12:39 PM) *

Don't they teach logic in schools any more?

There's a thread over at Bethesda.net that claims that all crashes are caused by shortage of memory, "because when I run out of memory, it always crashes".

I replied that logic doesn't work like that. The Ancient Greeks understood that; I am ancient, therefore I am Greek, and I understand. It's only logical. laugh.gif

Logic and reason have nothing to do with Bethesda.net, laugh.gif
'Tis a silly place.
TheCheshireKhajiit
QUOTE(mirocu @ Mar 20 2017, 09:40 AM) *

End of an era. sad.gif
Decrepit
Just visited the "old" official forums. Saw an official post stating that they will be going "read only" 28 April 2017.
TheCheshireKhajiit
QUOTE(Decrepit @ Apr 21 2017, 06:17 PM) *

Just visited the "old" official forums. Saw an official post stating that they will be going "read only" 28 April 2017.

verysad.gif
mALX
QUOTE(Decrepit @ Apr 21 2017, 07:17 PM) *

Just visited the "old" official forums. Saw an official post stating that they will be going "read only" 28 April 2017.



verysad.gif


*mALX wipes tear from eye*


mirocu
End of an era.

At least I did get on my tenth year so there's that. I guess the place has run its course for me but I'm still gonna miss it, and .net is definitely not a substitute.
TheCheshireKhajiit
Lol, Khajiit posted this on the update thread over there:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8SbUC-UaAxE

Thought it was fitting
mALX
QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Apr 22 2017, 03:43 AM) *

Lol, Khajiit posted this on the update thread over there:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8SbUC-UaAxE

Thought it was fitting



Aw, one of my favorite songs!


TheCheshireKhajiit
QUOTE(mALX @ Apr 22 2017, 08:46 AM) *

QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Apr 22 2017, 03:43 AM) *

Lol, Khajiit posted this on the update thread over there:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8SbUC-UaAxE

Thought it was fitting



Aw, one of my favorite songs!

Khajiit isn't a huge G'n'R fan, but he does like Cold November Rain, Knockin' on Heaven's Door, and Welcome to the Jungle.
ghastley
The old forums just went read-only as I was using them. I'd replied to a topic, then went to do the same on another, and the reply, quote and similar buttons had gone. Spooky!!

Correction: It appears that I can still report a post, and edit my old posts (just not create a new one).
TheCheshireKhajiit
A moment of silence for Bethsoft forums.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hZY5DBmgC_A
mirocu
Unless the new place and my mind change drastically for the better, Bethnet will not see me or my feathers.
TheCheshireKhajiit
QUOTE(mirocu @ Apr 28 2017, 12:29 PM) *

Unless the new place and my mind change drastically for the better, Bethnet will not see me or my feathers.

Well, Khajiit got to where he was tired of discussing speculation on new games and was primarily posting in the community discussion forum. He never felt as comfortable there as he does here with sharing his characters' goings on either. If they get a community discussion forum over there, this one will probably still post regularly, but until then Chorrol will be Khajiit's one and only Bethesda game forum.
mirocu
I've had as many as three forums going and for a long time too, only with a different third forum. Now I'm down to two which perhaps will make my focus a bit better smile.gif
TheCheshireKhajiit
QUOTE(mirocu @ Apr 28 2017, 12:47 PM) *

I've had as many as three forums going and for a long time too, only with a different third forum. Now I'm down to two which perhaps will make my focus a bit better smile.gif

Lol, see good in bad, good philosophy! Wise man say, it doesn't rain everyday!
mirocu
And wise farmer say; rain is good laugh.gif
TheCheshireKhajiit
QUOTE(mirocu @ Apr 28 2017, 01:05 PM) *

And wise farmer say; rain is good laugh.gif

As with everything, moderation!
Decrepit
QUOTE(mirocu @ Apr 28 2017, 12:47 PM) *

I've had as many as three forums going and for a long time too, only with a different third forum. Now I'm down to two which perhaps will make my focus a bit better smile.gif

Participated with some regularity in two Beth-centric forums since my arrival here, then added a third to give bethesda.net a fair shake. The count now stands at two again. Whether two or three or however many, for the most part my contributions can be copied and pasted from one forum to next with little to no alteration. Yes, they are equally incoherent wherever you chance upon them.

I once prepared a good many posts beforehand in my word-processor of choice, giving them thought and polish before seen online. Alas for all parties concerned, those days seem all but behind me. I just don't often possess the mental energy and/or sticktoitiveness I once did. I almost always wing it these days, subjecting all and sundry to my many brain farts and honest flubs.

On a slightly sad note, I moved the now defunct official forum from its second-spot position on my Firefox "new tab" link page. For the time being it remains in a lower position. But the link page houses only twelve sites. When next something new needs a spot on the page, the "good old" forum is the logical link to remove. Maybe I'll feel less nostalgically attached to the old forum by then.
TheCheshireKhajiit
QUOTE(Decrepit @ Apr 28 2017, 01:46 PM) *

QUOTE(mirocu @ Apr 28 2017, 12:47 PM) *

I've had as many as three forums going and for a long time too, only with a different third forum. Now I'm down to two which perhaps will make my focus a bit better smile.gif

Participated with some regularity in two Beth-centric forums since my arrival here, then added a third to give bethesda.net a fair shake. The count now stands at two again. Whether two or three or however many, for the most part my contributions can be copied and pasted from one forum to next with little to no alteration. Yes, they are equally incoherent wherever you chance upon them.

I once prepared a good many posts beforehand in my word-processor of choice, giving them thought and polish before seen online. Alas for all parties concerned, those days seem all but behind me. I just don't often possess the mental energy and/or sticktoitiveness I once did. I almost always wing it these days, subjecting all and sundry to my many brain farts and honest flubs.

On a slightly sad note, I moved the now defunct official forum from its second-spot position on my Firefox "new tab" link page. For the time being it remains in a lower position. But the link page houses only twelve sites. When next something new needs a spot on the page, the "good old" forum is the logical link to remove. Maybe I'll feel less nostalgically attached to the old forum by then.

Well Khajiit finds your posts easy to understand and coherent. This one had a similar dilemma today. He was going to delete the Bethsoft bookmark on his phone but just couldn't do it.
mirocu
I will keep my bookmark and have in fact added more. I like going back and browse around smile.gif
TheCheshireKhajiit
QUOTE(mirocu @ Apr 28 2017, 01:56 PM) *

I will keep my bookmark and have in fact added more. I like going back and browse around smile.gif

Khajiit has decided too as well!
Acadian
It's sad indeed but less so for me I think. Buffy and I only live in one game at a time and our current home is ESO. So the only game I have installed is ESO - made by Zenimax. So I just belong to Chorrol, Zen Official forums and Cain's wonderful site over at Haven.
TheCheshireKhajiit
QUOTE(Acadian @ Apr 28 2017, 02:52 PM) *

It's sad indeed but less so for me I think. Buffy and I only live in one game at a time and our current home is ESO. So the only game I have installed is ESO - made by Zenimax. So I just belong to Chorrol, Zen Official forums and Cain's wonderful site over at Haven.

Khajiit should probably join the Zen forums for ESO purposes.
Acadian
The Zen official forums are quite a bit like the old BethSoft forums. Easy to use, loads of members and tons of expert info. Also like the BethSoft forums, plenty of ungracious members as well. Lol.
TheCheshireKhajiit
QUOTE(Acadian @ Apr 28 2017, 03:17 PM) *

The Zen official forums are quite a bit like the old BethSoft forums. Easy to use, loads of members and tons of expert info. Also like the BethSoft forums, plenty of ungracious members as well. Lol.

Meh, Khajiit can ignore the ungracious ones, lol
Decrepit
Discovered the oddest thing. Visited the now defunct "old" forums while ago thinking to copy and past a recent thread entry into Bethesda.net. Finding the entry in question, I was surprised to see its EDIT button intact. The button works! I was able to edit the post. I did not, however, attempt to SAVE the edit. That button remains too, but I didn't want to risk screwing things up should it not behave as expected.
TheCheshireKhajiit
QUOTE(Decrepit @ Apr 28 2017, 08:43 PM) *

Discovered the oddest thing. Visited the now defunct "old" forums while ago thinking to copy and past a recent thread entry into Bethesda.net. Finding the entry in question, I was surprised to see its EDIT button intact. The button works! I was able to edit the post. I did not, however, attempt to SAVE the edit. That button remains too, but I didn't want to risk screwing things up should it not behave as expected.

Yeah, this one guesses they wanted folks to be able to edit stuff. In theory you could edit your last post over there and start brand new conversations (if anyone was paying attention).
Dark Reaper
Well I've migrated from the old forums to the new one. Seems like the old days over there just got to get use to the new layout, I only wish they had a Community Discussion there cause there's not a lot of things about Elder Scrolls I can talk about that hasn't already been said.
Crimson Paladin
Right now I'm waiting/hoping for the still-active TES roleplayers to migrate over. I haven't seen any RPing going on in the new forums as of yet.
mirocu
QUOTE(Dark Reaper @ Apr 29 2017, 11:18 PM) *

Well I've migrated from the old forums to the new one. Seems like the old days over there just got to get use to the new layout, I only wish they had a Community Discussion there cause there's not a lot of things about Elder Scrolls I can talk about that hasn't already been said.

I can't stand the layout and frankly I don't want to get used to it. And if it was a good layout I wouldn't have to.


So if you ever want my opinion or comments you need to, and I quote Scorpion; "GET OVER HERE!"


bigsmile.gif
Callidus Thorn
QUOTE(Crimson Paladin @ Apr 30 2017, 08:59 AM) *

Right now I'm waiting/hoping for the still-active TES roleplayers to migrate over. I haven't seen any RPing going on in the new forums as of yet.


Bah! Bring 'em over here. Maybe then we could kick the RP section back to life. laugh.gif
TheCheshireKhajiit
Yeah, Khajiit was really hoping we'd get more Bethsoft folks here than we seem to have. It's practically a twin of the Bethsoft forums, so this one doesn't understand why more people aren't wanting to join.
vometia
QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Apr 30 2017, 04:50 PM) *

Yeah, Khajiit was really hoping we'd get more Bethsoft folks here than we seem to have. It's practically a twin of the Bethsoft forums, so this one doesn't understand why more people aren't wanting to join.

Some of us are just stubborn. I don't like change. But I especially don't like bethesda.net: ew.
mirocu
Yeah, Bethnet is too bad for me to adapt to..



Also; hi, vometia biggrin.gif
Dark Reaper
QUOTE(vometia @ Apr 30 2017, 02:38 PM) *

Some of us are just stubborn. I don't like change. But I especially don't like bethesda.net: ew.


Ah nice to see a familiar face join us welcome .
TheCheshireKhajiit
QUOTE(vometia @ Apr 30 2017, 02:38 PM) *

QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Apr 30 2017, 04:50 PM) *

Yeah, Khajiit was really hoping we'd get more Bethsoft folks here than we seem to have. It's practically a twin of the Bethsoft forums, so this one doesn't understand why more people aren't wanting to join.

Some of us are just stubborn. I don't like change. But I especially don't like bethesda.net: ew.

Yayyy vometia! Khajiit said hi to you in the Everything Thread!
Kane
QUOTE(Acadian @ Apr 28 2017, 03:52 PM) *
It's sad indeed but less so for me I think. Buffy and I only live in one game at a time and our current home is ESO. So the only game I have installed is ESO - made by Zenimax. So I just belong to Chorrol, Zen Official forums and Cain's wonderful site over at Haven.

biggrin.gif We appreciate the kind sentiment. I'm glad to be a member here at Chorrol, too!
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