Green-Root can show up anywhere in the sewers, and Vasha's group are with him as well.

Why so slow?

I'm probably part (large) of problem, I'll have all of my characters moved up in the afternoon. I'm not sure if Florodine saw your last post, but I PMed him/her about it...... also FOH left before it could be read.

Btw, a lot of fog is rolling over the Imperial City. Just a weather update for you guys.

I'm planning for the "interaction" between Ian and Kirana to end abruptly when Ian attempts to tear Kirana's soul gem from the corpse, not knowing that Mannimarco can recall it back to himself. Does this work with you, POS?

What Mannimarco is trying to do is to get at Issac, who killed his "mother",

Mannimarco has seen the group, he even killed Soldin and froze Issac, so Mannimarco knows they are close. He decided to attack the young target, A: for killing Kirana, resulting in Mannimarco's death, and B: Because Issac is young and apparently at a loss for the killing of his maternal.

Ian can kill Kirana, but Mannimarco will send another copy back, and keep sending her until he dies...

Psychological warfare....

Well I think I'm done for tonight. I need some sleep.

Alright, so I guess this Alien versus Tamrielics will have to continue in the (later) morning. Issac and Satyana will probably notice the bad situation just as the Silhouette has begun conquering the Talos Plaza. Now, this is a little early for the Plys'Iea to be slain, so maybe the fight will end as the Silhoutte appears and the Tamrielics retreat (maybe with one or two people injured.....it would be perferably for them to be severely so).

It's kind of a change from how hardly any of the group has gotten injured to a severe degree...... Except for Soldin and Kirana getting killed by TKOW, Karn getting smoked by Fervus, Ian getting bitten by werewolves and slashed through the back by other vampires, Issac getting frozen (not really an injury, I know), Dalrus and Satyana during their captivity experiences, Astratus getting bitten by a zombie, Patholos being cursed by Sithis and beaten by Dark Brotherhood renmants, and am I missing anything?.......

Most of these incidents seem to involve my characters, so I must be missing some....... or have most of the others been relatively unharmed during these last few months of fighting?

Flint broke an arm but that is all I can remember. Bloody coward never sticks around long enough to get hurt.

Green-Root took a scar to the snout during his first encounter with Flint and Flogir, then later on he got messed up by a Golden Saint and nearly died. He still has a bit of a limp while on land as a result of that.

But yeah, we're missing injuries with some.

Alright then, I guess the spellcasters won't be spiriting the group away then...... Oh well, they can just dish out their own apocalypse before fleeing.

Edit: It's fine for you to control Vasha and her group as well as Green-Root, Cloudy.

As for the wounding, I volunteer Flint. He is one of the older people, has almost run out of Magicka, is probably growing tired and the most important reason of all.....

He threw his swords away so he can't fight back effectively. I originally planned to make him catch them after tossing the flin, but I kinda forgot. Oh well, I'll just play along with my mistakes.

Moving on to the point Vasha, I want to ask you something, Revan. Will the Narza'tai continue guarding the sewer entrances, or will they move to guard the....how do you call those metal caps on the street that cover the sewers? Portholes? Anyway, will they move to guard the portholes instead? I personally think that would be the wiser approach now. With the outer district in control, no Silhouette critter is going to take a swim.

I would like to have Vasha's group conduct some nighttime raids later on. Sneak out of the sewer, kill whoever happens to be near, slink back before an alarm is raised, repeat all around the Silhouette-controlled part of the city.

I can have the Silhouette injure Flint, if you volunteer him, but then they should make a counter attack that calls the Silhouette elsewhere, that way I don't kill Flint.

Well, certain key points have been sealed off or are unhealthy to pass through. So the Narza'Tai are concentrated in the eastern and central sewer passages. Most of the manholes (as I know them) that are accessable to the Narza'Tai sections are within the districts still held by the Morrowind Army.

Ano one of the more prominant forms of travel (teleportation) means that the defenders can simply seal all the interances necessary with debris and dead bodies that they won't use themselves. They are more devoted to protecting the passageways than entrances, the lack of light giving them advantages over intruders lacking night eye or proper illumination.
But Vasha's group along with a few other can go marauding at night. Perhaps running into some form of trouble after a few adventures when a few misc. enemies predict their coming.

Ok, a nighttime raid it is.

About the Silhouette beating up Flint, whose going to save him? Even if the Sil is called away, Flint is still beset by a horde of Goblins. Or maybe Flint makes it through the gates to the uncontrolled districts before they are closed but somehow he draws the Sil's attention. But then we have to deal with the Sil being in a controlled area.

Ah well, I'll just give it a start and then sleep on it.

I'm off to bed. First day of class tomorrow.

Well, I may as well be off then. I totally forgot that in the states you guys start in August. Have fun!

Here is the latest from the priest

Gave Mannimarco power he didn't have before, don't worry, not godmodded, just stronger to last a bit longer in fighting.

Patholos, subjected by the horrors of his past, has fallen prey to the Necromancer King. He will have to fight his own demons and the resurrection of the Dark Brotherhood to overcome.

Astratus, seemingly beset by the onslaught of the Silhouette, will concentrate defenses and position troops strategically.

A few dangling threads for the Priest to Solve...

A) Prater, prolly will have him join the attack and lead the ashes of the Dark Brotherhood
The matter of the Dark Brotherhood, a few soldiers in the MA will prolly join, along with one or two disenters from the Narza'Tai who still think killing is fun.
C) Good ol' Patholos, got new eyes, weapon is still being worked on, prolly have him work with Karn to eliminate the Dark Brotherhood, maybe have a war-within-a-war between Dark Brotherhood and Narza'Tai to make things climactic
D) Mannimarco's power, Silhouette will still be able to defeat Mannimarco, but not as easily, I see it as a better and more efficient understanding of magic, not anymore magicka or deadly spells, but more of what to use and effeciency

All in all, had to catch up and let Revan use Ian again, sorry, and possibly Kirana, also sorry, just post anything that should be fixed.

I bet Dantrag thinking right now is "Dang! Why didn't Ian free Cerpin during that battle!?"

Hehe!

No, more like, "Dang! School started!"

Uhhh....so much happened! Still, Satyana is with Issac, that´s good, but what about Brianna and Rahvin? They are....in a room at Tiber Septim....ehhh..doing things! And I do hope they will be able to continue...doing those things!

Hmm....I have no idea how to hop in again...have to think hard....

Minque, I really, really doubt they won't be disturbed by the bandits and goblins in Talos Plaza.

That said, It's great to have you back! Talos Plaza was taken by the Silhoutte's army, so Bree and Rahvin are in enemy territory now.....

Hmm...I guess you´re right about that...anyway then they will have to either find a way out of it or get help...

It´s good to be back,

Heh, I love a sneaky scene. Want some help from Vasha and her sneaky gang? They know a few ways out of the sewers. Maybe you can escape through the toilet. (It stinks, I know. But seriously, I'd rather jump down a dung-filled hole than get torn to shreds by all those baddies outside.)


Oh, and does anyone know where Flint has been teleported to?

I took some minor liberties with Satyana, she is currently offering to heal Rann's ribs, deapite the misgivings between them

NICE! that may make him more friendly towards her! As a matter of fact I do not really like them not being friends!

Well, if one thing can be said with absolute certainty about Rann, he can hold a grudge if he wants to.

It would seem difficult for a guy like him to have lots of friends (or keep them). Well, I don't think Issac (or Satyana) are going to give up on him..... No matter how much of a royal pain in the british boat he is.

Going to have Mannimarco repel the alien, wouldn't do good to be killed so soon... (Maniacle Laugh)

Sending Astratus to fight closer to the Silhouette, what's going to happen?

Patholos is going to recommend precision strikes against specialist troops. Karn can agree or disagree.

I'm off for the night once more. Gotta go to work early in da mornings!

Aren't the undead supposed to be fighting the Silhouette's forces right now? Mannimarco has his own side now, and since the undead are basically mixed with the Silhouette's forces right now, they're bound to be fighting those in their immediate vincinty rather than trying to breach the walls, no?

they are, but since Mannimarco had to retreat, they can't be rising on their own accord. So Im just having them mop up the remaining undead and burning the bodies.

I find myself fantasizing Karn walking up to Altair in the presense of the entire group and revealing him as Veric. It will eliminate a lot of frustration on part of myself and my characters....... who are basically being ridiculed for not trusting the blasted politico in their midst.

but then the entire plan for the plot would be ruined.

Isn't he already going to have to reveal his true identity to Rann? I hope Issac will be around for a smug comment, but I doubt it. Anyway, it will relieve a lot of stress when Veric is revealed..... so much frustration.

I am going to have the Silhouette take the temple district and green emperor way. That way the city is cut in half. Then the huge battle happens when they break into Green Emperor Way. That will be the final part. Then Mannimarco and Veric can fight the Silhouette. Then the Silhouette will have to fight two on one, and when he sees his army crumble he dissappears.

Even if Karn tried to reveal Altair as Veric, I'm sure the others like Rann, Amrita, Voltar, and perhaps Aerona would not believe him. The fact that he once was trying to kill them should prove to show that the group shouldn't trust him. Basically I think the arguments Amrita told Issac would be enough to sway those not wholly set out to expose Altair.

And in answer to the random post in the playground (that I think was meant for this thread) Rahvin never saw Veric change. In fact, he only just recently discovered that Sadril worked for Veric.

And I bet Flogir and Flint would be on Rann's side, being that they suspect Green-Root.

Yeah, my bad on that....... Anyway, I still have Green-Root, Tenek (he'll show up.... I'll make sure of it), and the Narza'Tai on my character's side. I don't know if Amrita will be able to lead Satyana astray. But ultimately my characters will have a shining moment when everyone realizes that Altair/Veric isn't so great...... I doubt they'll get to be smug at that momnet, but it just helps me (and them) sleep at night.

I have this big urge to make Green-Root brag to Flint about Altair being a yellow-eye Breton in disguise, seeing as how the whole enmity between the two was because of Altair. I mean, it would be something Root would do but Flint isn't that stupid either. He's had a Veric-obsession for the last twenty years now and only the recent crisis with the Silhouette has pushed it to the background of his mind. He would realize that not even the Argonian could imagine something like that so he would instantly turn camps.

If Flint does that though, he can't be one of the people who get under the emperor's vow and under Veric's thumb later.

Should Green-Root tell or not?

*Obsessive screeching* Do it, do it!!!! *Normal voice* Yeah, let's let it happen. Karn can even tell how Veric sent him after the group after Satyana escaped.

^^The whole point is nobody's supposed to know before he comes to power. If people know, then nobody's gonna support him.

Still, isn't Veric going to have his rise after the siege ends? We can just have that the people who know don't find the appropriate time to try and convince those who don't. Besides, aside from Flint, the entire anti-Veric/Altair party isn't that credible in the eyes of Rann, Aerona, and (maybe) Dalrus.

Now that everyone's cooped up in the city, I don't see how there will be much peace where people can have an undisturbed argument while three-no-four armies are fighting (not four-way, but there are two forces against two with no-discrimination policies).

From what I remember, only Karn (and Voltar, Sadril(what's he been up to?), and Amrita) truly knows that Veric is Altair. Somehow Karn managed to convince Ian (I'm still a bit confused as to why he believes him) which indirectly convinced Issac and possibly Satyana due to their trust in Ian. Oh yea, and Karn managed to convince Green-Root as well, but only on the fact that Altair isn't to be trusted right (due to him seeing Voltar with two "different" people)?

That's about right, so only Karn knows that Altair's real name is Veric, but it wouldn't be very difficult for him to tell the others who know Altair can't be trusted. Shogun said that anyone who feels able should take over his characters, btw.

Yes, but my concern is why believe Karn, a person who until the siege started to happen was willingly trying to murder them? To me, it doesn't make sense to believe him just because he's right. His character traits up till now would not inspire much trust. Sure, he showed Ian that amulet, but did Ian try to use it to find out who he was communicating with on the other line? For all he knows, it could've been a hunk of junk basically.

Like, I know it's interesting to have this "Altair is Veric" conspiracy among some of the characters, but I feel that some characters were convinced a little too easily.

Well, both Ian and Karn have fought each other for more than twenty years, they know how the other thinks. Ian knows that Karn has changed from a simple murderer to a more thoughtful leader-figure since he took the riens of the Narza'Tai.

Ian has never trusted Altair, who he knows has something to hide. So the vampire agent firmly believes that Karn is telling the truth because thye both know the status quo has changed. As agents, Ian and Issac seek to perserve the existance of civilized life, they know the Empire needs a strong foundation if it is to recover.

Likewise, Karn and the Narza'Tai want the new governemnt to be strong for the same reasons. Both former combatants acknowledge that their goals are one and the same now that the storm is coming (literally and metaphorically).
Ian and Issac's "far-sightedness" and suspicions lead them to believe that Altair/Veric is not the kind of leader the people need to lead them in recovery. The way agents are taught means they must exploit every opportunity to accomplish a desirable outcome.

In a (philosophical) wierd way, Ian and Karn don't have as much of a problem working side by side being that they know (and can read) each other better than most of the other characters.

also, if people do not trust someone just by a vibe they get, they don't care who they hear it from, they will believe anything bad said about someone.

Dalrus does not like Altair, however, she does not think he is evil, she just thinks he is a political person who wants to become popular. I want to get her a little more involved in the plot. Anyway I can do that?

Agents also performs tasks that can be considered decietful and sneaky, they're basically like spys and assume false identities and whatnot. You'd think that Ian would be the last person to believe Karn because they've been mortal enemies for so long, that his "changes" is simply a ploy to try to further some sort of goal Karn seeks. But that's just me.

You do provide some valid points, as it does seem that Karn has changed due to his leadership role. But the fact that Ian and Karn plan to kill one another even after this situation is dealt with leads me to believe that they would try to stay apart from one another as much as possible or watch each others' backs just so that they get the privilege of killing their long despised opponent instead of some zombie/creature.

And perhaps the termanology of "when this is over" can extend the wait until their fight when they realize that Altair actually will seize power. So instead of having their fight after the war, they have it at the end of the RP..... I still haven't decided who will die, so maybe it would be best for them to postpone their grudge.

Hehe, I guess that's the good thing about RPs: you can change stuff on the fly.

Unless something contradictory was in a locked down thread.... then its pretty much written in stone. Unless a Moderator or Admin can edit those posts.

Btw, what exactly is Green-Root getting at, Cloudy? Just to clarify.

Basically, Green-Root wants someone else to spill the beans, someone Flint won't just ignore 'because I don't trust you'.

The way things are, a completely unknown person saying the right words has a hundred times better chance at convincing Flint than Root.

If Flint is convinced, he might spread the word.

Of course, even with a convinced Flint it won't help much. Just look at the Issac+Sathyana disaster.