Florodine of Hlaalu
Nov 4 2005, 03:52 AM
so are we going to get some plans in motion or what, it seems like a lot of people aren't posting lately. I mean i know they're on cause they say online, but they seem to just post in other sections of the forums. The war between redoran and telvanni should start pretty soon. It is after all called War of the Houses
ShogunSniper
Nov 4 2005, 04:30 AM
off for teh night.
and, yes something should happen soon, pehaps endris' little brawl will spark some tension?
Soulseeker3.0
Nov 4 2005, 04:34 AM
well the news will, of coarse(sp?), spread across Vvardenfell like widefire or Corprus, which ever seems fit.....
I think I might as well get off too. cya all tomorow... NO SCHOOL! woot... okay calm down....
QUOTE(ShogunSniper @ Nov 3 2005, 10:30 PM)
off for teh night.
and, yes something should happen soon, pehaps endris' little brawl will spark some tension?
Of course.
Esspecially if one of the two House leaders decides to spin this attack as one orchestrated by Megil to kill both houses for House Telvanni.
Through rumor-spreaders of course. Doing so oneself would be political suicide in a sort.
ShogunSniper
Nov 4 2005, 12:57 PM
now that would be interesting.
then it would almost turn into public, hlaalu, redoran vs. megil, morag tong
*thinking*
Megil Tel-Zeke
Nov 4 2005, 09:02 PM
As if the people have any reason to doubt Megil, he has served them faithfully for 5 years. only the leaders of the house are frustrated with him for his neutrality.
DoomedOne
Nov 5 2005, 01:44 AM
Don't think Isaarin would try to spin it against Megil with all the public relations the guy does. Everyone in Vivec feels protected because of him. They accept that protection and therefore don't question some of the stranger aspects of him. Don't worry guys, I already have it set up. By the way, there will be no war with Redoran against Telvanni. There is currently a war between the Ashlanders and Telvanni which the redoran will be SECRETLY supporting. Not even Isaarin's agents, who are pretty good, will know about it. Only the Ashlanders in the union, Athyn, Ravvin and actual troops involved will actually know Redoran is supporting the Ashlanders.
The time for war is not here yet. Currently, if you want to find something to do with your character, then you can always start some minor tension. The brawl between Endris and whoever the hell he's fighting is not one that will result in any major war between the three houses, though be sure that Endris will walk away with quite a backlash against his house.
ShogunSniper
Nov 5 2005, 03:21 PM
inspiring speach by isaarin, doomedone.
Megil Tel-Zeke
Nov 5 2005, 06:38 PM
*stifles yawn*
is it over yet. the speech I mean
DoomedOne
Nov 5 2005, 09:43 PM
Wasn't that long. I noticed what looks long on paper doesn't sound nearly as long when said.
Megil Tel-Zeke
Nov 5 2005, 09:57 PM
I know it wasn't that long I read it. It was just babbling and blowing wind in my opinion. It worked one Endris which I guess is all that matters.
ShogunSniper
Nov 5 2005, 09:58 PM
well i can't exactly kill isaarin, which means endris can't.........
DoomedOne
Nov 5 2005, 11:43 PM
You guys piss me off. No one cares when someone is assaulted anymore?
Megil Tel-Zeke
Nov 5 2005, 11:55 PM
what %!) I allowed the duel to go on, it ended, that piece of business is over and done with, now we move on.
QUOTE(DoomedOne @ Nov 5 2005, 05:43 PM)
You guys piss me off. No one cares when someone is assaulted anymore?
Not like Raavin could do anything about it, it was a
duel.
DoomedOne
Nov 6 2005, 12:38 AM
No it wasn't. It was an assassination attempt.
Megil Tel-Zeke
Nov 6 2005, 12:47 AM
It was a duel. Endris spared Isaarin, had it been an assaination it would have most certainly gone through till the end.
DoomedOne
Nov 6 2005, 12:50 AM
Were it a duel Isaarin would have agreed to duel him. Besides, Endris striked three times, and the first two were not with the flat side of his sword. Emndris never openly told Ravvin or Megil that, "Don't worry I'm only going to beat his boat for slander." In fact, if anything he showed nothing but signs he was going to kill him.
gamer10
Nov 6 2005, 12:52 AM
Guys, I haven't responded in here for so long, but as far as I know my characters haven't done anything so I don't know where to pick up at.
Could someone tell me if anything's happened to Vivec or not, because I'm confused.
Megil Tel-Zeke
Nov 6 2005, 12:59 AM
nothing apart form a battle at ebonheart.
doomed, Megil being the authority of New Vivec has it within his jurisdiction to allo a duel to take place, in fact rules were laid down, Isaarin could have fought back, he just chose to be a coward.
post #47:
QUOTE
"This is between the two of you, do not drag me into it. Please feel free to settle your differences now, it will save many lives and spilt blood to settle this man to man than behind armies,"
there the duel was allowed,
psst #49
QUOTE
"Please Raavin, I will not allow it to go to the death, sometimes a good spar will settle many an issue. I am aware of the chaos that would befall the death of a leader, but a few wounds is not the same as death."
and there the rules are put in to place.
DoomedOne
Nov 6 2005, 03:54 AM
Study up on dueling, both parties have to agree to a duel. Just because your character is the mayor of New Vivec doesn't mean he can walk along the streets telling people they can beat each other senseless.
At most, Megil basically gave Endris permission to smack Isaarin around, in which case his popularity in the city will take a drop.
ShogunSniper
Nov 6 2005, 04:04 AM
this is getting interesting.
it appears isaarin has screwed over megil and endris.
appears.
i'm sure megil has some clever way to get himself out of it.
DoomedOne
Nov 6 2005, 04:27 AM
Yeah maybe, just for future reference know this is what isaarin does. His morals basically extend to, "How will this make me look?" Therefore, he always covers his boat and always looks at things with the perspective of "what the headlines are going to read" sort of speak. I mean, really you guys screwed yourselves, i warned you when I described Isaarin's character ealier. he's always excruciatingly careful with his words and if you fail to be as careful as he is he will twist your words around. Because Megil failed to state it was a duel but only hinted at it, and Isaarin never accepted any challenge, it was therefore not legally a duel. Because only the sylphs ever saw Wred without his mask, (not including Megil who saw him under the effects of the face changing potion) only they can testify it was him. Sylph eye-witness account < alibi of fighting bravely during the orc/goblin invasion. Why would a guy choose his words so carefully if he didn't reap the rewards from it? If Megil tries to act above the law then Isaarin is going to turn that around too, making it seem like Megil's just arresting people at random, with some underlying hidden motive.
ShogunSniper
Nov 6 2005, 04:29 AM
maybe endris should leave before he gets arrested...
Channler
Nov 6 2005, 04:34 AM
You kbnow what I think...
You can only play up to much political hype before it comes crashing down.. this goes for RL (IE GWB) and in teh RP.. I'd be careful doomed.. After all, your basically saying that everyone agrees with the Hlaalu to begin with, anmd that Isaarin has that much control of the people.
In a land where murder, and conspiracy seems to run rampant I don't see how it would entice the rest of the land to agree with him just cause he got jumped... Just meh thoughts
And I'm sorry about my grammer and spelling.. Im eating right now..
DoomedOne
Nov 6 2005, 04:42 AM
Actually you misunderstand me. I'm saying generally the people of Vvardenfel like what Isaarin has been doing, not Hlaalu, but him. They don't like him, but they think he has accomplished good things. No one really liked Isaarin to begin with, he had to work to gain his popularity by doing exactly what he's doing now, making everything look like a scandal. Isaarin has huge popularity not just as a House Leader but generally as a political activist. The reason is as I stated, he's a fire-starter, he began the regressive movement, and though it's over with it made him famous. Generally, like normal, most people in Vvardenfel don't care either way when it comes to these politicians, just like the US. You have two minorities who are very polarized where they either hate or love certain political figures but most of the population does not. Isaarin understands that the key to his power is tapping into these people and getting them to see injustice. He has said everyone loves a tyrant, and that's true, everyone loves showing off their sense of justice. If Megil does not play his cards right Isaarin will target him.
ShogunSniper
Nov 6 2005, 04:50 AM
whens melkaan gettin assassinated? havent seen dantrag in a while i dont believe...
Megil Tel-Zeke
Nov 6 2005, 04:54 AM
and Megil's realm of influence exceeds those of Isaarin, he has afterall rebuilt Vivec and done it mostly through his own philanthropy. he has ties with the mainland and the empire. he rejects none who come to his door. everyone in Vivec has an equal chance for greatness. His city is the most prosperous inVvardenfell. and he rules the city with an iron fist. And I ahve yet to see isaarin's good works.
DoomedOne
Nov 6 2005, 04:54 AM
Me neither, I don't know where he went. I'd like that to get finished.
EDIT: Yeah but Megil your character is breaking the law. I'm being objective here. Okay, this is the law. Isaarin has put two counts against Endris, that means he has to see trial where Isaarin will have to prove the duel was not legal. If Isaarin cannot prove the duel was not legal then he gets off. Despite that, Isaarin chose to bring him up on charges making it Megil's legal duty to arrest him. Furthermore, you need either a warrant or probable cause to arrest Wred which shows under what grounds your arresting someone. You can't arrest somebody because of their first name.
Now, you're right, Megil is the head of the Justice code there, but if he breaks the law, then his popularity WILL plummet, simple as that. I'm not saying that despite Isaarin's objections Megil couldn't take Wred, but he has to at least give a reason other than, "Because I said so."
Florodine of Hlaalu
Nov 6 2005, 04:59 AM
is solsteim able to be a part of this RP or would i have to start a whole new RP?
ShogunSniper
Nov 6 2005, 05:00 AM
just to use the island? or to add another plot?
Florodine of Hlaalu
Nov 6 2005, 05:02 AM
well more to use the island, cause i wanted to have a character who was like a skaal kinda person. And plots could form from there, but more just a new land to be on
ShogunSniper
Nov 6 2005, 05:05 AM
well there's the whole blockade thing around vvanderfell so travelling to and fro would be difficult, but i see no reason why you cant use it.
if you start a little sub-plot up there, i may consider throwing in good ole osano.
but this isnt my rp...
Florodine of Hlaalu
Nov 6 2005, 05:08 AM
ok, thanks, well i was actually thinking there'd be two main things up there. The Skaal leader who would most definetely use this as a chance to take the island back and unite all the nords there. And then the factor of the EETC who would now have control of the legionnaires and would tie in with falx needing his help and all.
ShogunSniper
Nov 6 2005, 05:09 AM
well, you should prob wait a little bit and get everyone's feedback before starting something that big, but you have my support.
DoomedOne
Nov 6 2005, 05:10 AM
I don't know Florodine, it's great that you suggested that but that is a huge responsibility to play out that whole sub-plot, especially with what's your plate already.
Florodine of Hlaalu
Nov 6 2005, 05:11 AM
ok thank you very much. I forget the people who are running it. i know intestinal used to, but i think he relinquished that once he was off for like a month. so i have no clue.
Yeah i know what with the silhouette and all. But the silhoutte is more of a temporary main character. Once he and judd systematically destroy miran he will more be a side character like judd is for you. Dalrus is not a high maintnance character, basically she and stauros (soon to be husband, just mine and soulseekr's sub plot) just fulfill hlaalu's order.
However i do agree it is a big thing, so tomorrow when i have had a chance to talk with quite a few people ill start the idea, with the leader of this RP's consent
DoomedOne
Nov 6 2005, 05:15 AM
Oh and Florodine another thing is Darum sort of yelled and threatened to beat a fellow ashlander. It seems like you haven't been paying much attention to the Ashlander storyline, but I think IRL it was 2 or 3 weeks ago when Kaushad shipped everyone out. Your charascter was not actively involved so he wasn't a part of it, but it was already publicly agreed upon that Kaushad would have the power to send off brigades of Ashlanders to start the guerilla war. It's been going on for quite a while and Erabeninsum ashlanders are doing their job. I've even managed to sneak in updates, like when En'Fel was awaiting Amili he overheard a conversation about two Sadrith Mora citizens talking about that mess.
ShogunSniper
Nov 6 2005, 05:17 AM
well teh 4 of us are here, whose turn is it to post?
i'm getting impatient!
Florodine of Hlaalu
Nov 6 2005, 05:17 AM
Yeah i kinda forgot about that after i posted it, and when i was going to change that you posted a reply. So im going to say Darum has been so bored he's resorted to drinking and so he kinda forgot that kashaud is in charge
Megil Tel-Zeke
Nov 6 2005, 05:18 AM
florodine, go ahead and break into the council chamber were everyone is, it will make things even more interesting.
ShogunSniper
Nov 6 2005, 05:19 AM
QUOTE(Megil Tel-Zeke @ Nov 6 2005, 12:18 AM)
florodine, go ahead and break into the council chamber were everyone is, it will make things even more interesting.
yay! more fighting!
Florodine of Hlaalu
Nov 6 2005, 05:20 AM
ok this should be a good fight
ShogunSniper
Nov 6 2005, 06:09 AM
did silhouette use magic to block the attack or what?
not saying there's anything wrong with it, i just need to what you mean by 'flicked his wrist'....
Florodine of Hlaalu
Nov 6 2005, 06:11 AM
well he's carrying duel swords so with his sword, cause otherwise id say he sheathed one of the blades.
Megil Tel-Zeke
Nov 6 2005, 06:11 AM
^ ^. OH yeah. this should be fun, Wred will soon be joining
Florodine of Hlaalu
Nov 6 2005, 06:16 AM
yay a party
Megil Tel-Zeke
Nov 6 2005, 06:42 AM
what race is the sillhouette again? I am developing a history here of ancient conflict between the sylphs and the sillhouette's race. it will make the fight that much better, Of course as of yet Megil know the silhouette isn't normal, but the silhouette is not aware of Megil's inheritance. though his alter sue of magic we will assume will give it away.
Florodine of Hlaalu
Nov 6 2005, 06:51 AM
the silhouette is the name of the top mages of the moldair which are like tsaesci and live among them. They have a black hide however and since they are kinda evil their appearance is not that of the tsaesci.
I really like the idea of the sylphs and silhouettes fighting i am eager to read about it
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