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ghastley
In the house, soft ones that won't smash up the place if you miss. biggrin.gif

Kiln
QUOTE(mALX @ Jul 15 2016, 07:45 PM) *

QUOTE(Kiln @ Jul 15 2016, 03:00 PM) *

QUOTE(ghastley @ Jul 15 2016, 05:51 PM) *

What about the ammunition? I'd expect a heavier low-velocity round to produce a different recoil from a lighter but higher-velocity one. So the propellant/slug ratio in a given round would change things.

Sniper rounds are heavy AND high-velocity for accuracy, but we're not at that end of the spectrum here.

Absolutely right. Generally the faster and heavier a bullet is the worse the recoil will be. A lighter, more aerodynamic bullet may be able to achieve the same speeds with less recoil because it takes less powder to push it out of the barrel at the desired velocity. A large bullet is harder to push at a higher velocity and requires a heavier powder load.

As for rifle rounds though, a .308 rifle bullet (a typical law enforcement sniper round) is actually relatively light and aerodynamic, running about the same size and weight as 9mm. It is also a .30 caliber bullet similar to 9mm in diameter, although the dimensions from front to back are different. Longer barrels suited to optimize velocity (unburned powder is sometimes wasted from a short barrel) are also chosen to keep velocity up.

Basically though what makes a rifle faster is more powder, a longer casing to store that powder, and a substantially longer barrel. The bullets are mostly kept light so that they can travel further without dropping.

Now with older guns the focus was on fast AND large but generally the range wasn't as good.


On the bullets, what is better for stopping power if say you are a smallish female alone in the house; and some big burly men break in? What bullets would make sure they couldn't just get mad and take the gun from you and use it on you? We used to keep 15 hollow points in the Ruger, but is this the best thing to use for the scenario above?

More than likely. Depends on the type/brand. There are some proven designs and there are gimmicks. You've just got to research whateveryou go with to make sure it gets decent penetration and expansion. There are tons of posts online and videos to help select ammo.
mALX
QUOTE(ghastley @ Jul 15 2016, 04:09 PM) *

In the house, soft ones that won't smash up the place if you miss. biggrin.gif


Nerf bullets? laugh.gif




QUOTE(Kiln @ Jul 15 2016, 04:10 PM) *

QUOTE(mALX @ Jul 15 2016, 07:45 PM) *

QUOTE(Kiln @ Jul 15 2016, 03:00 PM) *

QUOTE(ghastley @ Jul 15 2016, 05:51 PM) *

What about the ammunition? I'd expect a heavier low-velocity round to produce a different recoil from a lighter but higher-velocity one. So the propellant/slug ratio in a given round would change things.

Sniper rounds are heavy AND high-velocity for accuracy, but we're not at that end of the spectrum here.

Absolutely right. Generally the faster and heavier a bullet is the worse the recoil will be. A lighter, more aerodynamic bullet may be able to achieve the same speeds with less recoil because it takes less powder to push it out of the barrel at the desired velocity. A large bullet is harder to push at a higher velocity and requires a heavier powder load.

As for rifle rounds though, a .308 rifle bullet (a typical law enforcement sniper round) is actually relatively light and aerodynamic, running about the same size and weight as 9mm. It is also a .30 caliber bullet similar to 9mm in diameter, although the dimensions from front to back are different. Longer barrels suited to optimize velocity (unburned powder is sometimes wasted from a short barrel) are also chosen to keep velocity up.

Basically though what makes a rifle faster is more powder, a longer casing to store that powder, and a substantially longer barrel. The bullets are mostly kept light so that they can travel further without dropping.

Now with older guns the focus was on fast AND large but generally the range wasn't as good.


On the bullets, what is better for stopping power if say you are a smallish female alone in the house; and some big burly men break in? What bullets would make sure they couldn't just get mad and take the gun from you and use it on you? We used to keep 15 hollow points in the Ruger, but is this the best thing to use for the scenario above?

More than likely. Depends on the type/brand. There are some proven designs and there are gimmicks. You've just got to research whateveryou go with to make sure it gets decent penetration and expansion. There are tons of posts online and videos to help select ammo.


Oh, urk. We probably got the crap ones. Thanks for the info! I will def look that up; I would have never known there would be a difference like that!

mirocu
Whatever the round, don´t forget about shot placement. A .22 can be just as lethal as any caliber if you know where to aim. Of course, in a stressful situation it may not be so easy. But I still wouldn´t want to be shot with a .22 kvleft.gif




mALX
QUOTE(mirocu @ Jul 16 2016, 09:51 AM) *

Whatever the round, don´t forget about shot placement. A .22 can be just as lethal as any caliber if you know where to aim. Of course, in a stressful situation it may not be so easy. But I still wouldn´t want to be shot with a .22 kvleft.gif


Yeah, I was picturing being panicked and not having time to aim, just shooting at the approaching said burly men and hoping something hits somewhere and does enough damage where-ever it lands to stop them in their tracks.



mirocu
So yesterday I finally got around to test my Remington 1858 New Model Army. A genuine black powder revolver from the American civil war. These old handguns are the only ones I can get and I don´t even need a license since it´s not considered a gun after 150 years. To put that in perspective; an exact replica made in modern times and that functions exactly as an original, and I mean to a T, requires a license.


Yeah. Explain that satisfactory and I´ll mow your lawn forever wink.gif


Anyway, fired twelve rounds with an additional round using a little bit more powder. Hard to hit what I aim at even at close distances and the smell wasn´t as pleasant as I´d hoped. But it was still fun and I really like the history behind it, something a replica cannot hope to match. Since it was an original it was very expensive but I don´t regret buying it. I only wish it could talk so I could learn all the things it has been through before reaching my hands.


1858 Remington cap and ball (Hickok45)
mALX
QUOTE(mirocu @ Aug 15 2016, 11:09 AM) *

So yesterday I finally got around to test my Remington 1858 New Model Army. A genuine black powder revolver from the American civil war. These old handguns are the only ones I can get and I don´t even need a license since it´s not considered a gun after 150 years. To put that in perspective; an exact replica made in modern times and that functions exactly as an original, and I mean to a T, requires a license.


Yeah. Explain that satisfactory and I´ll mow your lawn forever wink.gif


Anyway, fired twelve rounds with an additional round using a little bit more powder. Hard to hit what I aim at even at close distances and the smell wasn´t as pleasant as I´d hoped. But it was still fun and I really like the history behind it, something a replica cannot hope to match. Since it was an original it was very expensive but I don´t regret buying it. I only wish it could talk so I could learn all the things it has been through before reaching my hands.


1858 Remington cap and ball (Hickok45)


Holy Cow, aren't those the ones that blew up in people's faces? Awesome Vid! Did you see how many views it has had? WOW! And ... he said your gun had ... nipples?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDqsgbtpDLk




mirocu
They can chainfire if you´re not careful. That is, as Hickok explained, when you fire a round and the explosion reaches the gunpowder in other chambers and set them off too, sending the bullets out on the side of the gun. However, if you just take precautions and focus on what you´re doing it´s unlikely it´ll happen.


QUOTE(mALX @ Aug 15 2016, 06:24 PM) *

And ... he said your gun had ... nipples?

It also deals with balls and lube. And you have to [censored] the hammer before firing or put it on half-[censored] when reloading the chambers.


Edit: Bloody Mary! I can´t even describe the procedure!! rollinglaugh.gif rollinglaugh.gif
mALX
QUOTE(mirocu @ Aug 16 2016, 04:16 AM) *

They can chainfire if you´re not careful. That is, as Hickok explained, when you fire a round and the explosion reaches the gunpowder in other chambers and set them off too, sending the bullets out on the side of the gun. However, if you just take precautions and focus on what you´re doing it´s unlikely it´ll happen.


QUOTE(mALX @ Aug 15 2016, 06:24 PM) *

And ... he said your gun had ... nipples?

It also deals with balls and lube. And you have to [censored] the hammer before firing or put it on half-[censored] when reloading the chambers.


Edit: Bloody Mary! I can´t even describe the procedure!! rollinglaugh.gif rollinglaugh.gif



This is like the first time I learned how real mechanics talk about the parts inside your car's engine! hubbahubba.gif


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mirocu
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Nice day yesterday evening, so out I went once again with six loaded chambers. Had to find out why I was missing the target so much last time. Turns out the rumors I´d heard about the Remington 1858 were true: it prints really high. I guess it´s because so they could shoot longer distances, what with black powder not being so powerful.
I increased my distance to the target and held well below (into the ground under it) and then I started to get hits on the upper part of said target. It really prints high blink.gif

After that I loaded up six more, but this time I had a misfire. The cap went off but the ball stayed in the chamber. I heavily suspect it was becuase of my excess lubrication after last time´s cleaning. This time I was more careful not to drench vital parts in oil. Anyway, with a new cap the ball flew out and all was well. Don´t have more than three balls left now and only one patch (that goes between the powder and the ball) so no more shooting for now. Probably not until next year, if even then. I´ll soon have a new toy to toy with biggrin.gif
Acadian
Heh, that may be why black powder guns are no longer so popular. . . laugh.gif
mirocu
Still popular for home defense in non-free non-American places around the world smile.gif


Why? huh.gif



Because it worked in the 1800s and it works now wink.gif
Kiln
QUOTE(Acadian @ Aug 17 2016, 12:28 PM) *

Heh, that may be why black powder guns are no longer so popular. . . laugh.gif

It's a lot easier to load and clean modern firearms so sales on the old designs have slowed. Many old designs eventually die. Very few persist beyond a few decades.

The 1911 (which I'm sure you know well) , Hi Power, and a few com bloc guns being the exception.
mirocu
I would love having a 1911, such a classic! And a .45 Colt Peacemaker. And a MP5. And an AK-47.


Blimey. How long does it take to become an American citizen because I´m seriously considering it now tongue.gif
mALX
QUOTE(mirocu @ Aug 17 2016, 07:43 AM) *

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Nice day yesterday evening, so out I went once again with six loaded chambers. Had to find out why I was missing the target so much last time. Turns out the rumors I´d heard about the Remington 1858 were true: it prints really high. I guess it´s because so they could shoot longer distances, what with black powder not being so powerful.
I increased my distance to the target and held well below (into the ground under it) and then I started to get hits on the upper part of said target. It really prints high blink.gif

After that I loaded up six more, but this time I had a misfire. The cap went off but the ball stayed in the chamber. I heavily suspect it was becuase of my excess lubrication after last time´s cleaning. This time I was more careful not to drench vital parts in oil. Anyway, with a new cap the ball flew out and all was well. Don´t have more than three balls left now and only one patch (that goes between the powder and the ball) so no more shooting for now. Probably not until next year, if even then. I´ll soon have a new toy to toy with biggrin.gif



(I know, saw from the nearby trees) laugh.gif


Those guns became extinct for a reason; it is called blown up hands and faces! Use extreme care with that gun.





mirocu
QUOTE(mALX @ Aug 18 2016, 02:19 PM) *

Those guns became extinct for a reason; it is called blown up hands and faces! Use extreme care with that gun.

Extreme care is taken, I assure you smile.gif


Guns blown up usually happens when you load a black powder gun with modern smokeless powder which has a much higher pressure curve that the gun is not designed to handle. Normal loads with black powder or black powder substitute combined with proper precautions and use, the risk is quite low.

I use real black powder and I always cap all loaded chambers and grease the front so there´s no risk of a spark entering another chamber when firing. I also have a thick patch between the powder and the ball so in essence I´m really doing everything I possibly can to prevent accidents. Which is all I can really do smile.gif
Darkness Eternal
Hehe. Got a pellet gun I borrowed from my brother-in-law. Taking out these damn pigeons!! One by one. The ones that can't fly are executed!

The days of cleaning up bird drippings is soon coming at an end!
mALX
QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ Aug 18 2016, 09:00 AM) *

Hehe. Got a pellet gun I borrowed from my brother-in-law. Taking out these damn pigeons!! One by one. The ones that can't fly are executed!

The days of cleaning up bird drippings is soon coming at an end!



You are executing Mirocu's friends? GAAAAAH!!!!



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QUOTE(mirocu @ Aug 18 2016, 08:37 AM) *

QUOTE(mALX @ Aug 18 2016, 02:19 PM) *

Those guns became extinct for a reason; it is called blown up hands and faces! Use extreme care with that gun.

Extreme care is taken, I assure you smile.gif


Guns blown up usually happens when you load a black powder gun with modern smokeless powder which has a much higher pressure curve that the gun is not designed to handle. Normal loads with black powder or black powder substitute combined with proper precautions and use, the risk is quite low.

I use real black powder and I always cap all loaded chambers and grease the front so there´s no risk of a spark entering another chamber when firing. I also have a thick patch between the powder and the ball so in essence I´m really doing everything I possibly can to prevent accidents. Which is all I can really do smile.gif



The squirrel watches from the trees to make sure you follow all safety measures, laugh.gif




mirocu
Friends don´t poop on friend´s car or motorcycle dry.gif



Good show, DE! biggrin.gif
mALX
QUOTE(mirocu @ Aug 18 2016, 09:06 AM) *

Friends don´t poop on friend´s car or motorcycle dry.gif



Good show, DE! biggrin.gif



BWAAHAA!



Uleni Athram
QUOTE(mirocu @ Aug 18 2016, 10:06 PM) *

Friends don´t poop on friend´s car or motorcycle dry.gif



Good show, DE! biggrin.gif

They don't?

Well... Uhh... Wow, I err..... Hmm.... You know....

Carry on, ladies.

*runs away frantically*
mALX
QUOTE(Uleni Athram @ Aug 18 2016, 09:21 AM) *

QUOTE(mirocu @ Aug 18 2016, 10:06 PM) *

Friends don´t poop on friend´s car or motorcycle dry.gif



Good show, DE! biggrin.gif

They don't?

Well... Uhh... Wow, I err..... Hmm.... You know....

Carry on, ladies.

*runs away frantically*



SPEW!!!



Darkness Eternal
QUOTE(mirocu @ Aug 18 2016, 02:06 PM) *

Friends don´t poop on friend´s car or motorcycle dry.gif



Good show, DE! biggrin.gif

Wait, we don't?? tongue.gif tongue.gif

mALX
QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ Aug 18 2016, 04:34 PM) *

QUOTE(mirocu @ Aug 18 2016, 02:06 PM) *

Friends don´t poop on friend´s car or motorcycle dry.gif



Good show, DE! biggrin.gif

Wait, we don't?? tongue.gif tongue.gif



And now neither you or Uleni are invited to ride my motorcycle (should I ever get one) since you have both admitted to a lack of housebreaking and plans to redecorate the seat in your favorite fudge dragon decorl


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Darkness Eternal
QUOTE(mALX @ Aug 18 2016, 10:08 PM) *

QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ Aug 18 2016, 04:34 PM) *

QUOTE(mirocu @ Aug 18 2016, 02:06 PM) *

Friends don´t poop on friend´s car or motorcycle dry.gif



Good show, DE! biggrin.gif

Wait, we don't?? tongue.gif tongue.gif



And now neither you or Uleni are invited to ride my motorcycle (should I ever get one) since you have both admitted to a lack of housebreaking and plans to redecorate the seat in your favorite fudge dragon decorl


rollinglaugh.gif
What? No! That's no fair.

ohmy.gif
mirocu
I think we can move this to the Everything thread now.
mirocu
MY FLIPPIN´ LICENSE HAS ARRIVED!!! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


But we won´t go down there and get it until Monday I think because the weekend rush is unbelievable. I mean, last time we went was on a Tuesday and when the doors opened we had a long cue behind us. On a Tuesday, at a shop in the friggin nowhere! blink.gif

But now I have the license and I´ll soon have my little cowboy gun! Or as lever guns are known in Tennessee: New Jersey assault rifles tongue.gif

IPB Image
Acadian
Beautiful little rifle, mirocu!

Rules/laws/licenses? Just become a criminal. Then you'll be exempt from all that nonsense. tongue.gif
mirocu
Yeah, it´s a nice gun smile.gif

QUOTE(Acadian @ Sep 8 2016, 04:00 PM) *

Rules/laws/licenses? Just become a criminal. Then you'll be exempt from all that nonsense. tongue.gif

I´m already treated as a suspect so why not? And if I did I´d be able to easily get as many handguns and full autos as I want and all I gotta do is pay up and shut up wink.gif


But I won´t do that of course. Not yet... Never ever wink.gif
mALX
QUOTE(mirocu @ Sep 8 2016, 08:43 AM) *

MY FLIPPIN´ LICENSE HAS ARRIVED!!! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


But we won´t go down there and get it until Monday I think because the weekend rush is unbelievable. I mean, last time we went was on a Tuesday and when the doors opened we had a long cue behind us. On a Tuesday, at a shop in the friggin nowhere! blink.gif

But now I have the license and I´ll soon have my little cowboy gun! Or as lever guns are known in Tennessee: New Jersey assault rifles tongue.gif

IPB Image



WOO HOO! Congrats, Mirocu!



mirocu
IPB Image IT IS HERE!! IPB Image




So today I went down to the shop and could finally bring home my new Chiappa lever gun in .22LR! Such a fine little rifle indeed and it feels so nice to have a wood n steel rifle instead of the plastic one I had before. Sure, I have other wood n steel guns but that only made me realize even more how much I don´t want a plastic one. But you know, if someone wants to donate an AR-15 it´s not like I can´t take it off yer hands if yer twist me arm a bit... biggrin.gif


Haven´t fired it yet but I will later this evening. I also bought a shooting target but I fear the choice might have been a tad sacrilegious.. rollinglaugh.gif rollinglaugh.gif


And when the guy gave me the ammo I thought he was giving me shorts, but no. It was standard LR´s. I´m so used to see magnum cases tongue.gif
Got 1000 rounds of CCI mini mags and 50 rounds of Winchester SuperX that they threw in for free. Strangely though, there were no holes for sling mounts so I guess I´ll have to make due without.
Acadian
I know you've been looking forward to this one, mirocu and really hope you enjoy it. I wouldn't worry about your target - green crows are okay to shoot. tongue.gif
Darkness Eternal
Awesome! Post videos of you killing stuff!
Kiln
QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ Sep 12 2016, 09:31 PM) *

Awesome! Post videos of you killing stuff!

If by stuff you mean plastic bottles and foam birds I'm good with it.

Congrats on the new firearm Mirocu. Glad it all got sorted out.
mirocu
QUOTE(Acadian @ Sep 12 2016, 09:43 PM) *

I wouldn't worry about your target - green crows are okay to shoot. tongue.gif

Yeah. My excavator runs on diesel and I don´t want any green crows raining down on my parade tongue.gif

QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ Sep 12 2016, 11:31 PM) *

Awesome! Post videos of you killing stuff!

Already killed some bricks but forgot to take pixies laugh.gif

QUOTE(Kiln @ Sep 13 2016, 03:05 AM) *

Congrats on the new firearm Mirocu. Glad it all got sorted out.

Thanks and yeah, me too smile.gif


So I fired about 50 rounds yesterday evening and another 50 today and I must say, it shoots quite well. Windage is pretty much where it´s supposed to be so no need for Kentucky, only elevation might need some adjustments since I can´t really shoot that far with open sights; they pretty much cover the entire target which makes it hard to shoot at a specific place on said target.

That bird was so much fun! I just stuck it into the lawn and took some shots at it and by god, the LR has some force to it! The bird swung seemingly just as hard as the steel target when shooting with .22 magnum! I sort of see the LR as a slight step up from air guns but it´s way more than that. Yesterday when I was shooting at some bricks it even knocked them down! And they were quite big as well and I had placed them so they wouldn´t tip over!

That CCI ammo is well worth its price. Apart from me tilting the rifle and working the lever too slow sometimes it cycles really well and there were no misfires. The mechanism in the rifle was very stiff and borderline clunky at first, but I suspected it was because it had been at the shop for a very long time. Since it´s a takedown I took it apart, cleaned and lubed it and put it together again and while watching The Simpsons I gave the lever mechanism some "gymnastics" while applying more lubrication on the moving parts and now it all works very smoothly smile.gif


I´m so happy I got this rifle! Between it and the revolver, all I need now is a Stetson and a horse and I´m all set! laugh.gif
Acadian
Ride 'em Cowboy 'Rocu!
Darkness Eternal
Bricks are no fun!!

Do you have rats? Birds? Peopl--- uh squirrels? ( Hides from mALX) wacko.gif
mALX
QUOTE(mirocu @ Sep 12 2016, 10:46 AM) *

IPB Image IT IS HERE!! IPB Image


*snip*

Haven´t fired it yet but I will later this evening. I also bought a shooting target but I fear the choice might have been a tad sacrilegious.. rollinglaugh.gif rollinglaugh.gif
*snip*



ohmy.gif ... laugh.gif

Congrats on your new toy ... er, gun...


mALX
QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ Sep 13 2016, 11:10 AM) *

Bricks are no fun!!

Do you have rats? Birds? Peopl--- uh squirrels? ( Hides from mALX) wacko.gif



*mALX stomps into thread...reads...*


*The ground begins shaking...*


*mALX turns green, grows to giant proportions*


"GRAAAAAAAAAAAHGR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"






Darkness Eternal
QUOTE(mALX @ Sep 13 2016, 05:38 PM) *

QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ Sep 13 2016, 11:10 AM) *

Bricks are no fun!!

Do you have rats? Birds? Peopl--- uh squirrels? ( Hides from mALX) wacko.gif



*mALX stomps into thread...reads...*


*The ground begins shaking...*


*mALX turns green, grows to giant proportions*


"GRAAAAAAAAAAAHGR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"





....

*runs*
mALX
QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ Sep 13 2016, 12:58 PM) *

QUOTE(mALX @ Sep 13 2016, 05:38 PM) *

QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ Sep 13 2016, 11:10 AM) *

Bricks are no fun!!

Do you have rats? Birds? Peopl--- uh squirrels? ( Hides from mALX) wacko.gif



*mALX stomps into thread...reads...*


*The ground begins shaking...*


*mALX turns green, grows to giant proportions*


"GRAAAAAAAAAAAHGR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"





....

*runs*




*Follows, emitting a sound wavering between a howling wolf and the maniacal laughter of a jackel scenting prey..."


Oh wait, back on topic? Right then, ignore this...




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mirocu
Yeah, no squirrel shooting allowed nono.gif

But I´m ok with bird shooting, as long as they´re completely green and inanimate. Or if they´re pigeons tongue.gif


When I got the other gun it came with a small wire lock that you put through the ejection port on the autoloader. I kept it when trading in the gun and I´m glad I did so because it locks the lever nicely. I mean it´s not a tight fit but you can´t cycle it and put a round in the chamber.
mALX
QUOTE(mirocu @ Sep 14 2016, 04:22 AM) *

Yeah, no squirrel shooting allowed nono.gif

But I´m ok with bird shooting, as long as they´re completely green and inanimate. Or if they´re pigeons tongue.gif


When I got the other gun it came with a small wire lock that you put through the ejection port on the autoloader. I kept it when trading in the gun and I´m glad I did so because it locks the lever nicely. I mean it´s not a tight fit but you can´t cycle it and put a round in the chamber.



NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! No pigeons either, they are your relatives!!!! The poor birds!!!!







mirocu
QUOTE(mALX @ Sep 14 2016, 03:31 PM) *

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! No pigeons either, they are your relatives!!!! The poor birds!!!!

I know. What´s your point? cool.gif


rollinglaugh.gif



Had a small setback yesterday when I disassembled and reassembled the gun. I had butterfingers and got stuff loose that shouldn´t be loosened and when I put it back together again the lever got stuck and didn´t go fully up. Got a little sweaty as I didn´t want to go all the way back to the shop again but after a short while looking closely at the mechanism I figured out how it was supposed to be and got it back together and it all works fine now. Even tested it by putting a round in the mag and cycling it.

But don´t do that yourself. I´m what you´d call a professional cool.gif
mALX
QUOTE(mirocu @ Sep 14 2016, 09:51 AM) *

QUOTE(mALX @ Sep 14 2016, 03:31 PM) *

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! No pigeons either, they are your relatives!!!! The poor birds!!!!

I know. What´s your point? cool.gif


rollinglaugh.gif



Had a small setback yesterday when I disassembled and reassembled the gun. I had butterfingers and got stuff loose that shouldn´t be loosened and when I put it back together again the lever got stuck and didn´t go fully up. Got a little sweaty as I didn´t want to go all the way back to the shop again but after a short while looking closely at the mechanism I figured out how it was supposed to be and got it back together and it all works fine now. Even tested it by putting a round in the mag and cycling it.

But don´t do that yourself. I´m what you´d call a professional cool.gif



Is this the gun I warned you in advance they stopped making because they jammed and blew up in people's faces?



mirocu
No, no. I´m talking about my new carbine here. What you are thinking of is the black powder revolver smile.gif
Darkness Eternal
QUOTE(mALX @ Sep 14 2016, 02:31 PM) *

QUOTE(mirocu @ Sep 14 2016, 04:22 AM) *

Yeah, no squirrel shooting allowed nono.gif

But I´m ok with bird shooting, as long as they´re completely green and inanimate. Or if they´re pigeons tongue.gif


When I got the other gun it came with a small wire lock that you put through the ejection port on the autoloader. I kept it when trading in the gun and I´m glad I did so because it locks the lever nicely. I mean it´s not a tight fit but you can´t cycle it and put a round in the chamber.



NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! No pigeons either, they are your relatives!!!! The poor birds!!!!

Poor birds??? They are disease-ridden, and their droppings carry diseases . . . they're noisy lol. I can't stand their "Pruu Pruu, Pruu Pruu PRUUUU."

Then again I don't tolerate loud animals. I LOVE animals, not the annoying ones. Last night I woke up three in the morning because there's this stray dog that goes around barking and waking up the other household dogs, causing a choir of barking dogs. She did this every single night. Last night I woke up, walked out of my house and into the street in my underwear with a bucket of water lol. She took a nice bath. So far she was still pretty quiet. Saw her this morning trying to play with my dog.

But to stay on topic . . . man I don't like pigeons. I hate cleaning nasty bird-droppings and I had to do it every day until I started shooting them at night. I avoid it during the day because in this communist-like country killing pigeons is frowned upon. Not sure if its illegal, and if it was, who the hell cares? People died here because of their diseases. My grandmother is 84 years old, strong and able yet . . . the smell is terrible.

I say shoot them all. wacko.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif

EDIT: OOOH and Mirocu, I'll probably be heading back home to America next month or so since I was done selling dru---drums here in Brazil laugh.gif laugh.gif. I'm going to go shopping for some nice firearms, too. I love the AR-15. Got to use it last year at the range, and the Glock 18, and 19 when I did my concealed carry course.

mALX
QUOTE(mirocu @ Sep 14 2016, 10:38 AM) *

No, no. I´m talking about my new carbine here. What you are thinking of is the black powder revolver smile.gif



Oh good!




QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ Sep 14 2016, 10:56 AM) *

My grandmother is 84 years old, strong and able yet . . . the smell is terrible.
I say shoot them all. wacko.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif


ohmy.gif



Darkness Eternal
QUOTE(mALX @ Sep 14 2016, 04:18 PM) *

QUOTE(mirocu @ Sep 14 2016, 10:38 AM) *

No, no. I´m talking about my new carbine here. What you are thinking of is the black powder revolver smile.gif



Oh good!




QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ Sep 14 2016, 10:56 AM) *

My grandmother is 84 years old, strong and able yet . . . the smell is terrible.
I say shoot them all. wacko.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif


ohmy.gif

Well, I meant the pigeons not my grandmother hahaha.
Kiln
QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ Sep 14 2016, 02:56 PM) *

QUOTE(mALX @ Sep 14 2016, 02:31 PM) *

QUOTE(mirocu @ Sep 14 2016, 04:22 AM) *

Yeah, no squirrel shooting allowed nono.gif

But I´m ok with bird shooting, as long as they´re completely green and inanimate. Or if they´re pigeons tongue.gif


When I got the other gun it came with a small wire lock that you put through the ejection port on the autoloader. I kept it when trading in the gun and I´m glad I did so because it locks the lever nicely. I mean it´s not a tight fit but you can´t cycle it and put a round in the chamber.



NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! No pigeons either, they are your relatives!!!! The poor birds!!!!

Poor birds??? They are disease-ridden, and their droppings carry diseases . . . they're noisy lol. I can't stand their "Pruu Pruu, Pruu Pruu PRUUUU."

Then again I don't tolerate loud animals. I LOVE animals, not the annoying ones. Last night I woke up three in the morning because there's this stray dog that goes around barking and waking up the other household dogs, causing a choir of barking dogs. She did this every single night. Last night I woke up, walked out of my house and into the street in my underwear with a bucket of water lol. She took a nice bath. So far she was still pretty quiet. Saw her this morning trying to play with my dog.

But to stay on topic . . . man I don't like pigeons. I hate cleaning nasty bird-droppings and I had to do it every day until I started shooting them at night. I avoid it during the day because in this communist-like country killing pigeons is frowned upon. Not sure if its illegal, and if it was, who the hell cares? People died here because of their diseases. My grandmother is 84 years old, strong and able yet . . . the smell is terrible.

I say shoot them all. wacko.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif

EDIT: OOOH and Mirocu, I'll probably be heading back home to America next month or so since I was done selling dru---drums here in Brazil laugh.gif laugh.gif. I'm going to go shopping for some nice firearms, too. I love the AR-15. Got to use it last year at the range, and the Glock 18, and 19 when I did my concealed carry course.

Good choice. Especially if you look at Daniel Defense.
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