Here is the new thread for our game planning... since the one that was locked for being in the wrong section...

Intestinal Chaos we're not ripping off any game! These are respected race names used many, many times to represent the Races...

What exactly is the point of this thread? You really should be more specific and explain yourself more man cause I don't know whats going on here...

Now normally I'm a very friendly and easy going guy and I really don't mean to be rude or troll-like in any way, but I have no respect for or faith in this idea of yours..

If this really does show any form of promise I just might join in.. but really..

Don't get you hopes up.



What was that about not ripping off anything again?

Wow this is getting ALOT easier to understand...thanks for clearing that up...

Loving the sarcasm Kiln.

Alright... here it is... my original thought for that topic "freaking awesome" was to get all the great writers of this site to combine forces with the artist... you know like someone will draw a realy cool character and then the artist can team up with a writer and make a realy cool story to fit the character... or the other way around... some one would write a story and some one else can draw the main character.... but then it turned into the development of a game... some how... well if you truly want to make a game I have a bunch of stories and ideas I have stored up over the time... I also started a "Demon VS. Angels" series... well in theory... I wrote everything down on paper... so if you truly are interested in this DarkHunter just pm and we will discuss this privately... by the way this got real big real fast... that was cool... anyways even do nothing got done I still want to say...

Kudos... Kudos

Not to be a pessimist...

But after reading the original topic, I would like to say that it would be a little more difficult than you're making it out to be.

Programming, animation, scripting, etc.

I loved the original idea, about having artists draw writers' characters, or having writers write about artists' characters, but I think that making your own game is a little far-fetched.

But if you can go through with it, I'll give you all a hand shake or something.

Yeah... the original idea was very cool... I hope we can still go through it... like I said before I wanted to get the artist and writers to join forces... but I guess not many people liked it... o well... I guess I am going to go learn how to draw and such... and once I do I'll start up that thread again to see how it fares a second time around... only this time I will be prepared...

That's good. Give it a good think.


That does make me more confident about this. Somewhat unrealistic though...


But if you're actually going to think it through, you might have a chance.

Ummm... Where I said "Copyright also decided how much Lore we use form Bethesda..." Means NONE! a copy-right means that NOTHING can be used of that game that was copyrighted. (and that's the entire game...)

Concerning making a game, I've read some threads on that before but I thought that people mentioned using the Bethesda construction set to make an independent, free playing game - as in - an .esm as opposed to an .esp that has to play along with MW or Oblivion. But the use of their construction set itself would then be including Bethesda, even if you made all new models and imported them in.

So, who among us knows how to build a game engine? Whoever does, I sure would like to learn. I'll supply artistic and retexturing needs as best as I can offer. I have 3ds max & Gmax - I'll make a greater effort to learn them.
I may be going to school for Computer Animation in Game Design ... this would look great on my application.

I already have gotten in due to my artwork & modding for Morrowind & a 3D cartoon I made at ElderScrolls.com. But I'm waiting now to find out the financial aid package. This would be great fun & be a wonderful experience.

I'm still in High School I'm taking Programming this September (coming up) and I'll bother the teacher until he tells me... He's great he knows everything about computers!

Until then Ibis: You,me, and Mazelure are working via PM. We'll be writing the story exchaning models (from you, I suck at it) etc...
Of course if someone joins who already knows how to do good game programming then I won't have to bother my teacher and will only have to write Quests, books, stories, dialoge, etc...

You're going to (College I take it) school for Game Design? Great! I'll be going there soon enough. Prehaps the three of us (Including Mazelure just cause he writes better stories than me... lets see how you do in quests Mazelure!) could team up someday and become a small company! (just like our dear friend Bethesda when it started)

Cool enough, DarkHunter! You, Mazelure & me it shall be. By PM. Okay, I'm gonna go look at some of Mazelure's stories in the Fan Fiction forum then.

Hmmm ... now how are we gonna get a company name out of DarkHunter, MazeLure & Ibis.... DarkMazeIbis Inc. .... HunterLureIbis Inc. ... etc??? lolol

I'll just suggest that we do think of races that are generic names .. like the list they started to give in the original thread ... Eldmer for Altmer, Drow for Dunmer, Bowsmer for Bosmer, Dwarf for Dwemer, etc.

Do you think it'd be good to feature one already written story of Mazelure's so we can get the feel & I can try drawing the characters the way he wants them to look?

Well, we can continue this in pm, just thought I'd throw out some ideas!

Alright! Lets get to work... now... how do I put Abyss into a quest...

Well, good look to you guys.


But I suggest that if you really are gonna make a game, then start making up the world from scratch. Put down your own ideas, and yours alone.
Drow for Dunmer? There is already a race called the Drow in other games.

Making a brand new game?
Wow, that's ambitius. Well, it's posible, but you all need a biger team. And a lot of hard work. And a good communication. A website would be nice too. And..........

Oh well, best of luck

Dear Fethenwen: The name Drow has been used many, many times in D & D Dragon Lance, other games... Etc.

For Hypno: Planning on making website... on Freewebs cause I don't feel like paying...

To All: We need more members and we'd like critisim once we release a beta-test game section or something...

Aye, I just commented one thing that Ibis said. So, you shouldn't use the name Drow because it has been used much already.
But, that is just my thoughts, a suggestion.

If you plan on making Drow, make their society as it is. Try to recreate something like Ust'Natha from Baldur's Gate.

My opinion when it comes to races would be to create them yourself than to use races that has already been used so much - Taking for example the dark elf; we see them in several games like in TES Lore, D&D, Warhammer - pretty much the same, elf looking creatures with dark skin...

So I think you should try to come up with you're own races, don't have to be something completely unique but something you guys think of yourself...

And as Hypno said - Get a website running with a forum + a mIRC channel or a TS Server. Start working things out, organize a team of people who can actually make this game come to life and work from there...

Good luck!

Think it was Stomach Ache that gave me the link a while back...

Project Offset, is a RPG FP game thingie - Goes very good from what I've seen, I suggest you guys to drop by the site and other sites where they are currently working on games, take a look around and get some ideas on how to organize something like this... even tho this will be in a smaller scale I guess..

Project Offset

Alright... We'll work on our own versions of the elvish races...

Ours might get some "Air" time too (T.V. just in case noone understood that) but, no ours isn't going to be That big. But I (And hopefully the other members of the team) hope that we can give Bethesda a little compitition. If our game doesn't hit top ten, it's all right because it'll have served a purpose at least. We're not going to have a top class one like Offset, because they are a company and we're probably going to max out at 10 friends just trying to push thier favorite game company (Beth) into putting out superior games.

Of course if we do hit it big, then we'll continue (hopefully) and be a company some day and have our own forums open around us... wow, thats one hell of a daydream, Eh?

Aye, it sure is :)

Offest is amazing... but its a shooter... so what we're doing Might Count as good as what thier doing despite thier graphics being amazing...

Ok: Ibis, Mazelure. What are we calling this game... kinda hard to name the site without the name of the game...

DarkHunter, sent you two pms where Mazelure & I talk about a company name & a name for the upcoming game he has already started writing.

I have been checking out Daz3D program and I've been looking up game design engings online. Haven't found any suitable ones yet. I have found some tutorials.

Wow, this sounds really cool, if maybe slightly overambitous (considering DarkHunters quote "...If our game doesn't hit top ten, it's all right..." ) it's great to see folks actually trying to pull something off. I wish I could help but I know practically nothing about making games. I have very little programming skills and have only tested out Blender with a few tutorials to try some modelling, but nothing serious. I might have some imaginative ideas on quests, storyline or history but then again, I'm no expert.

How many are you actually considering working with the game? Is it DarkHunter, Ibis and Mazelure? As mentioned, I would be happy to help with whatever I can.

And wow, Project Offset looks amazing, another game to look forward too!

I think you guys should only think about the company name for the time - Better to do some brainstorming about the game itself, storyline etc. and when the plans are ready - then you make a title that fits

We have (more technically Mazelure has): (New info: fill in blanks)
-Game name = Dark Hearts (might not be quite that...)
-story line = Age old battle of Angels and Demons (with a twist)
-Lore = Lot'z of stuff (Don't ask...)
-Some new never before seen races = Orana... (might have another sometime...)

We're missing:
-More members = still
-Company name = ...
-Some one with serious programming skills. = Still missing

Anyone who wants info just PM me.

Haha, funny how the field were blank a few seconds ago and then suddently after a reload they were all magically filled in with info . (after you edited)

Anyway, as I said, I'll gladly help with whatever I can. I'm a quick learner but I sometimes lack the time and motivation to get starting.

Would be interesting to hear about that story, Angels and Demons are fascinating creatures .

uhmm ....hmmm what game? This is like...I'm watching a chinese tv show without subtitles...

hmm interesting idea... but i headed down that road once already: I had a good idea for a huge mod for another game some time ago. I had some skills (but not much) and because of the idea i had i was able to get about 9 people into it. With irc channel, forum etc. Went along quite well - but then, i found out that the guy who starts the whole thing needs talent in organizing and has to be quite experienced in at least one branch of skills needed for the whole project.

My idea got spoiled by the lack of experience/organizing skill mainly. Forum, irc etc. are not that important, you just gotta start off. All of you who already want to participate, learn stuff, create some content basing on your idea (coder etc is not that important at the beginning).
If you manage to take the first, hardest step, and actually create some stuff :

a) people will join automatically in a working, promissing project
you will have skills to create very much on your own
and c) Naming, etc will get quite easy.

My two cents to this

Well ThanadoS I am good in one section: Writing Lore, Quests and Short stories. (nothing on Mazelure though...)

Plus, this isn't a modding project. We're starting from (nearly) scratch.
And I can organize quite well. (my room doesn't count) And we are working (soon at least) on something...

While actually making a game is far beyond my abilities, I would love to contribute ideas. I've also always wanted to see how various artists visualize my characters.

Get some stuff to Mazelure if you want to see if your stuff fits into his story line...

Good to hear
Yeah i know that you aren't modding but: in the end it's all the same, only that your way might be slightly harder, yet.
I just mentioned what i experienced, if the things i said are no problem at all to you, great, then there is a great chance we see your idea blossom.
If i were just a bit safer in the fields of the english language, i'd contribute stuff myself, but at the moment i think i wouldn't be able to pull off anything decent

Good luck to you anyways

Go ahead... Microsoft Word has a spelling and Grammer check (in english) and I can run it thorugh there...

You know what I barely notice?... we realy dont have a leader... I mean I kinda am it... but then again so is DarkHunter and Ibis... maybe we should vote for one... or we can keep it like the round table... I think I like the idea of the round table more than anything else...

An idea would be to make people have different areas of responsability, like you (Mazelure) have the main Lore while DarkHunter has Races and Quests, etc..

I also like the idea of a round table, but I suppose someone that kind of organizes it a bit more than the rest would be good to have.

Specializationism... wow long word... sounds good then each of us founders (we're still lacking the programming section.) can take a section. I call the Mortal Races!!!!

I think programming can wait, at least until there is a Lore and Story part roughly done. But then again, programming is kind of important when creating a game so I suppose we'll need someone who is rather good at it, especially when it comes to engine-creations .

Also, a website is very much needed. It's a great way to organize stuff. I could create a temporary site and host it on my google-pages or ISP-space (no ads/banners on either) but it wouldn't be anything too sophisticated.

Okay, very good and helpful opinions from all!! Thanks for your interest and input.

Maze & Hunter, I vote Bofra in ... if you guys agree. He has offered, seems very interested & has wonderful suggestions and seems level headed on this.

I absolutely totally agree with Fuzzy = we should make our own names for the familiar version of races, probably giving them little visual/character twists of our own.

as far as I know, the division of labor thus far is:
Mazelure = writing the story, Race creations & names
DarkHunter = Website Setup, Quests, Enchantments, Character Traits - Programming possibly
Ibis = Artwork, Modeling, Character Depiction - Programming
Bofra = Website Setup, Organizational Skills, other contributions to be decided if he joins us

I too like the idea of a roundtable structure for our company. It gives everyone equal voice & that can be very important. Also we should vote if there are any decisions we have trouble agreeing on. If is does become an even number of company members - a tie vote could be broken by posting a survey at chorrol on the point in question and getting a public opinion for the deciding vote.

I don't think we are being too ambitious. I have heard of games made by amateurs. I've even seen them reviewed or at least discussed in gamer mags. This example is a much simpler enterprise, but 2 of my friends & I posted a 3D cartoon called The Wingmer Sister (made with MW TESCS & mostly mods with my artwork added) at TheElderVaults.com & it was great fun & quite time consuming. But other than that, easy for 3 people - 1 wrote the storyline, 1 gathered the mods & was fashion consultant & I did the staging & screenshots in TESCS and then edited them with Paint & Photo Finish. I also hexed coded it into the website.

But, I think if we keep things as simple as possible & be direct in our goals = this could work. Everyone who is saying for us to brainstorm first & get the ideas out on paper & to use a website devoted to this = are absolutely correct. We certainly welcome any input from everyone here at Chorrol and will consider all suggestions.

ps- No need to worry about grammer. I am good at punctuation and spelling and as was said ... everything would be run through Microsoft Spellcheck as well.

I vote for Bofra! Alright... Ibis has Mazelure sent you the new race Info yet? And Bofra: Maze should send it to you too.

I think we can get somewhere with this game! We're doing quite well (for just starting) and maybe Ibis if you figure out a Poser soon we can have a few character models out within the month... (June)

Yes, I've downloaded Poser and am trying it out now. I also DL'd Daz and am thinking of pm'ing Konradude to get some expert instructions on making it work. I'm having trouble loading the extra mods that I DL'd for it.

I haven't gotten the race info yet but look forward to it. Maze & I did review a wing design for some of the Angels.

PS* Note to Geonox - This thread continued from a previous one where Mazelure, DarkHunter & I have decided on trying to make our own game. Maybe that will help clear up some of the confusion. We also need talented people to join. *hint, hint*

Hey... I already welcomed him in... so I guess he is in... good job Bofra ... glad to have you aboard... and I will pm you guys with the race information Dark H send me... and I will begin typing the story plot since I foud everything I had writen down in a shoe box ... I know... I was surprised too...

Yay! I'm in!

I've been working a little bit with a site we could use but since it's 5 am in the morning it's not going too well. I need sleep .

I'll start working on a new race tomorrow and I'll help you Mazelure with names on Demons and Angels.

Well, this is going well & Bofra, you sound like me .. staying awake all night. I got the info on the Orana & they sound cool. I guess we will need a variety of races to fill the mid-world between angels & devils. I will try to think of some too.

Yeah, well the problem is not much gets done at that time of the day/night, but still it's hard to stop with whatever you're doing.. Quite a dilemma .

Anyway, DarkHunter, are you working with a website aswell? If that's the case then I'll leave you to it unless you rather have me work on it. The site I've been working is nothing very fancy but it will probably satisfy out needs. I believe I'll have it done by this afternoon (think 12 hours from now) then I can show it to you so you can give your opinions.

Also, what kind of forum do you suggest? I know only of phpbb but maybe there are other templates that are better?

Good work on the Orana aswell DH, I'm trying to imagine how they look but I just get the picture of an argonian in my head . Or maybe something like this? That is a Merian from Lusternia.

Ibis: Is Sunburst Studio your work? If so then wow! Amazing! But what about digital images? Would be cool if you could make some images for the website. I'll post you what I have in mind when I get home.

Cheers!
Bofra

Yeah.. that pretty much EXactly what I had in mind... wow so there was a race like that somewhere... Well I didn't copy it cause I've never even heard of Lusternia....

Ok I read thier little stat card... It's not quite what I had in mind... but the picture almost looks the same as the on in my head (overactive imagination...)

Heh, cool, then I can picture it in my head aswell . I don't think you need to worry about it being as similiar as yours, I bet practically every race we come up with will exsist in a similar fraction on some game out there.

Wow, that is a cool looking race. Well, I pictured the Oranas slimmer than that, although that is pretty close. Oh I'm so excited now, I just realized that this is my perfect opportunity to create a race that I often thought should have been inclided in gaming.

But I won't say out loud who or what they are - I want it to be a surprise.

Ummm... just Pm me, Maze.. oh screw it... I'm naming this company if you guys agree: FarFallen!