Well actually you couldn't live on bread and water, you would die from malnutrition. You could live on beans, bread and water.

I'm all for killing animals to suit my tastebuds and stomach. That's a large part of why they exist, in my opinion.

Everything is as legitament of consumtion as the next option. We aren't exactly as sacred as we might think, if we got pussed to extinction I don't think anything less then devine intervention would save us..........
I tend to like meat over vetables and most fruit........

Well.... I like ice cream in my tummy!!!! *giggles like a schoolgirl*

Erm.... yea... I also like burgers from Harvey's Restaurants. They're a fast food chain that actually GRILLS the burgers! The actually have size and weight to them! They're awesome I tells ya. AWESOME!!

I don't care what people eat. As long as it isn't me, I'm fine with people eating whatever.

There are other reasons for being vegetarian/vegan, most animals which serve as food don't get the most humane treatment, hamster loads of environmental damage caused by lifestock and it is about 100 times more efficient energywise to be vegan. I would be vegan but my stomach outweighs by conscience.



mmm...soylent mallet...

Do you mean baked beans?

Back off Pisces! I'm not fish food! Honestly!

I'm all skin in bones, there's not much of a meal upon me. Plus, I'm gassy so I'd taste like rear end. You wouldn't want to eat that would ya?

I like skin, I'll make sure I'll cook you till your nice and crispy.



Any type of bean, raw beans are better but baked beans are adequte. Beans carry alot of the things you need to survive, not everything but bread contains the rest, of course you'll get all sorts of conditions sooner or later because your not getting the right vitamins/minerals but that won't kill you.

Yup, beans are full of good things for you, the proteins are very high quality and if it wasn´t for beans....of nearly all kinds one of my girls would starve, she´s a vegan and a big bean-eater!

I could never be vegan, since I really dislike beans and soy. I find meat to be highly efficient; large amounts of energy packed into a small volume. What could be better than that? (No offense intended to those of you who choose not to eat meat; I could just never be one of you).

I'm sorry.. I'm all for treating animals nice and anything but doesn't treating animals, humane, seem a bit of an odd word choice?

After all, they aren't human, and we don't treat plants humane. Hell we walk on them!

Hehe, I find this amusing because this all started because someone mentioned hunting down a shark that attacked someone. My of my, how the topics swirl on this thread!

It's all good though, this stuff is interesting to read.

I'd have to agree with you MM.

But yeah, animals are animals... not people. they can be part of the family though... as an animal

Funny, my other daughter would totally agree with you! If she doesn´t get some meat she´d be crazy!

The weather outside is god-awful, it's foggy, dry and cold and my feet are half-frozen [and I have THREE pairs of socks on'em]... and I need more coffee, as always.

so you have both sides of the spectrum? How do you guys decide what to eat on the holidays?

We have it all! Vegan-food and normal, it makes a nice mixture. All of the bread and cookies are made by my veggie-girl and they are pure delicious!

I eat Vegetarians!!!! (Cows are herbivores, calm down folks!) But I dont eat Vegans...I need some protein...

Oh my..but don´t you know that soy-milk contains far more proteins that normal milk?


*runs to the fridge to get a glass of soy-milk*

*Grabs a large jug of soy-milk and dunks it on BH* "What? Just 'cause I don't like football doesn't mean that I can't act like Blacky's a coach!"

*Sits in the corner eating carrots and burgers*

I just eat what tastes good. Most of the time... sometimes I'm forced to eat stuff I don't wanna.

*Grumbles about how he can't wait to move out*

i'm pretty sure that defines the most of us

I'm eating a taco

Hey whatever happened to Red?

I wish I had a taco... funny because i was talking about tacos to someone yesterday...

but yeah, what happened to Red.... I miss the sap

I'll be grilling some chicken for dinner, shortly. I try to avoid red meat, for my health--can't say I'm particularly successful, though. I like bacon too much.

If I could afford to I'd buy local, organically-raised meats. I don't think that there is anything wrong with eating meat, but if I could I'd avoid mass-produced meat, because the animals are raised in poor conditions, and large animal confinement operations are environmentally destructive.

Ah, meat. If i couldn't eat meat i'd go mad. 'Tis truly one of the greatest of culinary delights
And as for soy milk... YUCK! That stuff just tastes nasty lol. Give me plain old cowjuice any day

I do assume wolves would go mad if they didn't eat meat... not much else their teeth are good for

Being a carnivore isn't as easy as everyone makes it out to be.

yeah you gotta chase down your food don't ya

Chasing down soy-beans is easy I tell you..... I do it all the time

Chasing down my food may not be easy, but it's very fun
And it gives a great sense of satisfaction when it gets caught. Plus it really builds up the appetite, that's why nothing gets wasted. That and the family is fairly big and they all gotta get some...

**Wipes off Soy-Milk** Remind me to thank Revan in my own special way....

...as for hunting my food...I think we would all have a great deal more of respect for animals if we had'nt reduced them to livestock. When your hunting something down for days on end, and you may well end up becoming your quarry's meal, you learn NOT to develop a "I am Man, I can eat anything I want" complex.

At that same token, I respect Vegetarians who chose not to eat meat, but dont make it a religion. "How could you eat meat?" Like this. (Takes a big bite of steak.) I am not one to put down others for their life choices, but when they feel the need to put mine down..)

I can be just as biting and mean as the Militant Vegetarians can be...."Fine, bears are cute. In National Geographic. Lets throw you in a bear den, and see how tasty,..ah..cute,..they find you to be. And dont forget to play with the Cubs, the Mama Bear LOVES that!!"

We could amke it a reality show! Vegetarians meet the animals they want to protect, we could call it. or something else, i'm not taht great with name slol. We'd make MILLIONS!

Minque: How old are your daughters and how long has the vegan one been vegan?

I hope your 'special thank you' is going to be dumping a container of soy-milk on me. Otherwise I have to take a rain-check....


PS: the proper punishment must be equal to the offense, meaning you can't do something worse to me then I did to you.

The non-vegan is 20, she just came home from Michigan...the Vegan is 17, she´s been one for.....a year and a half approximately. Btw, her cookies and cakes are awesome! You wouldn´t believe it!

wow... form you saying it alot, you'd think they are the best thing since electricity or somethin

Heh...in fact they are! But still....electricity? That´s something I really "manufacture" every day...so to speak!!

I forget that you work at a plant. (right?) i couldn't think of anything better to say better then sliced bread is to cliche(sp?)

Hurray, the vegan one is just the right age for me to flirt with (I'm 18, don't tell Ibis, she wants to kill me when I turn 19 but she doesn't know if 18 or already 19) Well I'll remember to do just that if I ever go to Sweden (right?). Vegan cakes and cookies are awesome, a good 1/4 of my friends are vegan or vegetarian and I eat alot of things they make, I cook a lot of vegan myself and I always eat vegan or vegetarian when I travel or attend a conferance.
Vegan chocolate is the best, its made with soy and has actaully managed to make the taste of chocolate even better, I only eat fair trade products for the most part and all the fair trade chocolate here is vegan.

*cough* suck-up *cough* *cough* ehrm... sorry, i gotta get that checked out, got an appointment on the morrow. Just kiddin' i don't doubt that vegan stuff is good, just never had it

Oh---my---god! My vegan also prefers fairtrade thingies! I think you two should get on very well together! hihi

Are you guys still talking about food? Jeeze...

Yeah this is the longest i have ever seen people manage to sustain a conversation about food...

Oh dear....but food is important, you wouldn´t like to be without it right?

Dearie me! All this talk has gotten me hungry! Damn all of you!

Suppertime isn't for a little while either. If I eat a snack now though, my dinner will be ruined! Argh! This suffering we call hunger!!!

Eeeeh....I´m hungry as well, and for me it´s past bedtime now! Think I´m gonna grab a bit anyway!

Wow, I honestly just realized that it was only two more days until Christmas.

Beh, whatever, I don't honestly care all that much, I haven't had much a Christmas-y spirit for the past two or three years, and I honestly don't much care about presents. If I get something I get something, and if I don't, then I don't, and that's just how it is.

20 minutes later and it is one day till Christmas, infact it is only 9 and a half hours to go but I won't be allowed to open presents at midnight.

I did all my Christmas shopping on Wensday, I sent you all vegan chocolate cake, keep checking your mailboxes.

Merry christmas everyone - and is there a way to delete your account?