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So more arguments on the Empire in collapse scenario then, eh?

I think it will work out fine

uhh yeah....but it can´t be total collapse..then we´ll never get it on it´s feet again....unless we rp until next christmas....

Hey, next x-mas is only 4 or so months away... This one took (slightly) longer, methinks.

well both the ideas sound alomsot the same to me. i would join either so i am impartial.

I would love to play a char trying to create his own Empire and quelling the resistance and other competitors. Maybe we could all work for this man at first when he was but a small faction of a handful of men and eventually work him and us up to a large scale nation. Eventually by then the other factions would have gotten together and formed their own nations, then the entire field changes from quests roam battling to political intruige and wars as well as making alliances A fun time will be had by all!

this idea requires ALOt of people, unless everyone wants to be representative of an individual group.

i dont

That could also work, and it would work fine with the amount of people we will have. Some people could direct NPC helpers but mostly the PCs would be the special group, recovering items, eliminating particluarly strong threats, ect.

i say go with the house wars, not this post-apocalyptic empire fallen thing...

I think the Empire in Collapse idea would be very epic It would really be a change of pace, many different scenarios could play out. I love the idea of everyone working for a particular faction trying to restore peace on Tamriel as the New Age Empire and everyone doing it a different way. Quests and Eliminations could give way to wars and tactical missions. I don't see why people don't jump at the mention of this idea!

hmmm guess you´re right Dantrag.....house wars, with some side stories...sort of...

We need to play in new territory. Vvardenfell is old and exhausted, lets make a new area where me make the rules. It looks as we want it too not like the pre-rendered image of Vvardenfell so burned into our minds.

i think vvanderfel is so common is -because- we have in image of it in our mind. it would take even longer to get this started if we came up with our own world, and then we would make arguments like "ithought this town was west? no its east" etc.

Exactly my point. This image of Tamriel would be our own, no more time will be spent arguing over geography.

It's his point too.

With making up your own world, arguments over geography occur because there really IS no geography, and nobody knows where they are.

*cough* well i wish someone could post in the playground so we could have a nice conversation over some flin...

Ooh ha! Touche! I see your point, possibly this struggle could take place on Vvardenfell then. Taking over the island might be a bit more difficult than some people may think. The island is famous for making and breaking factions and many a war has taken place on it's blackened lands.

Perhaps the House Wars could be a RESULT of the Empire's collaspe.

As otherwise the legion *will* step in stop any open warfare. With the Empire aroudn the only house wars are quiet skirmishes in the ashlands and assassinations, like in morrowind.

Oh. And for Future Referance, heres a map of the known World: click

So we know some geography.

I'd rather like to stick to morrowind. MW's mainland and Vvardennfell are large enough...

Alrighty, House Wars during the collapse. 3 factions, 1 neutral 1 evilish 1 good, but they all have their falts and their own territory. I like this idea MUCH better. House wars it is! Hlaalu is somewhat neutral but ruthlessly mercenary and will do anything to better their standing and get a few extra coins but with the Empire collapsed and money worthless Hlaalu has lost a valuable allie and made many enemies from their Empire support and with most their holdings being in gold Hlaalu has suffered a mage hit but they retain their many mines. Redoran is theoreticly good but they can be closed minded and controlled by rules and regulations and have an utter lack of mercy being natural warriors they are fitted for war but with the collapse of the Tribunal they lost a majot allie but at large are still very powerful and with most their holdings being in weapons they are cut out for war. The Telvaani are evlilish but mostly are uncaring and they have their few rogue good guys, unfortunatly they can be condescending towards all and just about everyone hates them and they have no allies and this leaves them weak, but they have holdings in powerful magic items and a number of extremely powerful mages number in their midsts.

Hmm nice! But why is it that there are so few cities in Cyrodiil? Is the nature that harsh or do we just not know?


Oh yes .....I´ll be redoran of course!

5 actually.

House Redoran

House Hlaalu

House Telvanni

House Dres

and

House Indoril.

Dres and Indoril are entirely based on the mainland however. So thats the only time you'll hear from them. Though there are alot of Indorils in the temple/Ordinators.


We just don't know...

Or, we could make the Legion another faction to side with, for characters such as Falx.

The legion being in collapse Hlaalu has abondoned them and thinks of them as a weak allie that will only bring them trouble. The Legion whom everyone now hates not only is cut off from their province where their power lies but everyone on Vvardenfell views them as a nuisince and wishes to destroy those who they had formerly been ruled by. Since the Tribunal crashed (let's just say Vivec is dead too) the priests are listless and Ordinators or idle. The ORdinators started to fight amongst themselves and most are gone, but large numbers of priests took up with Redoran while others just became hermits or swore off priesthood all together. House Dres and Indoril being powerless in Vvardenfell may or may not wish to get in on the action.


The Thievs guild has withdrawn from Morrowind altogether because they face bigger problems at home. The Warriors guild is busting at the seems and the Mages guild is not as powerful without Imperial backing and is being assaulted by House Hlaalu. The Cammona Tong are stronger than ever and may actually be exerting force on the events taking place on Vvardenfell and they may have their own small towns.

Just so long as not everyone in Vivec city loses faith in Vivec...

Unless we want a steaming crator where Vivec was. As no faith in Vivec = Ministry of truth hitting city at terminal velocity.

Seriously, when Vivec stopped that he esentially 'paused' it in place so if faith is lost in him, the thing un-pauses and continues straight into the city. *booom*....

That should exactly be it! Nice poitn Aki, faith in Vivec was lost, the ministry crashed and brought the death of the leaders of the Tribunal as well as the ministry of Justice and Wisdom leaving the Ordinators on Vvardenfell leaderless as well as the priests. There being no more leadership from the temple and the Empire being vitrually powerless and unable to exert control over anything the people of Morrowind have no other leaders to look to but the houses. The houses being so hateful of eachother and having a recent huge burst of power from all their support are now concentrating on ruling Vvardenfell and possibly replacing the Empire.

Telvaani is under new leadership by a new younger man who has burning ambitions for his house to rise to power. Hlaalu is ruled by a new man as well since Duke Vedam being no longer a Duke has been ousted by his followers and replaced by a younger man hungry for power and conquest. Redoran's former leader was killed in a mob after his corrupt ways were revealed to the public and he was replaced by a more militant man yearning for war and the control of all of Vvardenfell.

Thus the stage has been set, new younger men fueling the fire of ambition in their followers have set out to conquer Vvardenfell. These men may or may not be players (I don't think the leaders being players is a good idea). The players may be important people in their faction, lower level people doing the work they have been told, neutral people seeking to end the house violence that is tearing apart Morrowind, or supporters of the Legio seeking to restore its former glory.

I think the houses would also like control of the mainland as well.

'cause you know. Its nicer and has nice farmland in Dres' territory (being so close to the Black Marsh the soil is fertile).

Vvardenfell has some nice places but its mostly ashland....

I think we should stay in familiar territory in Vvardenfell. Making it all of Morrowind is a little too broad and tends to have less focus and familiarity. We can just make some reason as to why the main land isn't being conquested. Such as the empire still has some weak control of the area and they are doing their best to cut off all transportation and communication to Vvardenfell leaving the inhabitants stranded and self sufficent thus giving the Houses there even more power since the people's only hope is from protection provided by the houses.

i vote aki and intestinal chaos to be in control of the next rp.

YEs, I think we should be, I have some prime ideas for the rp and I'd like Aki to be in co control because he has some great ideas of his own.

Well, if it is supposed to be a "continuation" of AMU, then Vivec(the guy) is dead, along with Vivec(the city). And I assume that the ministry of truth is gone as well.

One or the other; joint leading almost never works.

Edit: sorry for double post, I thought I edited that last one to say that....

I don't think we should continue off of AMU, lets start with a clean slate. AMU was just sort of a provate thing. After this one is done I don't think we should continue it, because one way or another all of Vvardenfell will be changed.

true about the joint leadership

and true about continuing AMU

perhaps a poll is in order for leader of next rp--or maybe thats a bad idea...

But the after-effects of AMU give a perect set-up for this house war - vvardebfell is in shambles, and the empire is worrying more about the destroyed capital than Vvardenfell, I'm sure.

Nah I think we have got this all figured out. After I get off I will start writing some ideas for the RP and I will run them by you when I get back on tomarrow. I think the leadership thing is great.

Why wouldn't it work?

Alright, Aki has agreed to co-own the RP with me. I'm busy alot and Aki could take full control when I am gone. When I am here (which is most the time) we will work on it collaberate sometimes but mostly me and Aki will be controlling the major actions of the houses and focusing on particluar houses of our choosing.

i'd like to join, but could there be like an ashland faction to, like maybe their goal is just to return to the old ways, and they are willing to step in, and force it, while all the other houses are at war. They'd be like run by four differant people, considering ther is four differant tribes, and one of the chiefs could try to unite them, and make a new power

that could be interesting. or you could just be a member of your favorite tribe or something

yeah and as a member, you could maybe have a whole plot where you become leader of your tribe

I think the ashlanders will play a minor role. Nobody in civilazation really likes them and they are usually killed on site. The house have moved on to domination but maybe a quest for a more caring player could involve saving ashlanders who are being wiped out during the ferocity of the House wars. Perhaps one of the houses has set their sights on controlling Ashlander lands and are killing them off and setting of settlments.

yes it's true they are hated, but in their terrain they are stronger, adn united they could be as powerful as a great house

i may take a part in protecting the ashlands....

and i think i want to lead the Zainab tribe

They are weakened from generations of their young being slaughtered. Some of their young men and women have become bandits and abandoned the tribe. Also the ashlanders have to contend with disease. They also rely on trading with houses, and if the houses no longer want them they are also slowly starving since game is become more scarce and the plants are often ruined.

Another good quest idea for the ashlander sympathiser could be attempting to unite the tribes and and drive off the houses from taking their land.

(oops sorry, double post )

What sort of character are you going to have?

I'll be the ashlander sympathiser.

We will set up the guidlines for character creation later when the ball starts rolling and the RP has a name and is about to start.

Or could you do that as a chief to, like taking over the other tribes by marriage or war?