Lol, those pics are hilarious! You can't call a Breton "small"! They are like those little dogs that act like they are the biggest dog in the room!

Alois is at least a little more self-aware, but it's still easy to tease him about it.

Fun fact! When I first started TES I was convinced Bretons and Nords were the exact same height! This is mostly due to Arena describing them both as a "tall" race, with only the hair colors differing (I played a bit of Arena before my 360 copy of Oblivion arrived).

Like, after playing a while with a Breton I rolled an Imperial and though "Wow, he is so small!" That should give you an idea how much I believed it.

Then I learned that Imperials were the exact same height Breton men: the "default" height setting of 1. Oops. (It also includes Dunmer, Khajiit men, and Bosmer, Redguard and Argonian women)

It's also why the ESO Squad have varying heights. They'd be the same height otherwise. :V

Haha yeah Khajiit used to think it was amusing playing as a Breton female and then find and look down on the Bosmer males

Love how in ESO you can alter the height of your characters!

tbh I actually miss Bosmer men being the smallest playable race. I thought it gave them charm. I dunno, I guess Skyrim had a good reason to make them almost as tall as the women. (.98 I think?)

I guess that makes Breton and Khajiit women the smallest now.

Anyways, yeah! The best part about ESO's character creator is that it lends to more diversity and realism to everyone. I say this every chance I get: bring it to the main games.

Honestly Khajiit has no idea why they didn't have an ESO style character creator in Fallout4. Well, actually this one supposes that the focus was on the face constructor. Still, mods prove that tweaking the individual body sections can be done too.

I love both of these! Always love the skit ones that have a theme because you manage to get some real emotions in their expressions! Love the second because I recognize them from in game; and it looks like they are about to go out on an adventure!







I love this one for the same reason as Khajiit - Breton men are like miniature bull dogs, or banty roosters; What a great combo of bravado these two will make, (Nord and Breton, like sticking two male lions in a sack and letting them duke it out, lol). Awesome!






Yes, I modded my Khajiit in Oblivion to make her petite - didn't want her to be as tall as the tall men.







Yes! I have seen men with beer guts and paunch! And Acadian's Buffy is so tiny that even my short Mia towers over her! Love that you can really customize in ESO!

They also reference the Soul Shriven costume image.
I've been wanting to make a parody for a while now. Same with this Imperial City image. (Though I remember the EP one having dual axes? Guess I was wrong. Checking the screenshot i made from release confirms this lol)



Luckily, by default Khajiit women in Oblivion are only taller than Bosmer men. But apparently Breton women are daintier. :V I love looking at game values, tbh. I also learned that Bosmer men are pretty burly in spite of their height, a trait shared only by male Nords, Orcs and Argonians. (Their weight surpasses height, making them look stockier) That discovery and Brodras' comments (they're true!...proportionally) led to Deleras' creation in Skyrim.

Course height/weight settings have never been TOO consistent. For example, back in Morrowind Imperial men were a little more buff than women (1.05 and .95) where in Oblivion they were both at a weight of 1. Dunmer were less dainty than in Oblivion, too. Then there's Bosmer men's height being increased in Skyrim while weight is entirely up to the player. Which brings me to...



It's the best! Being able to manipulate specific body parts outside of the face is also great. I gave Jo'zira witch hands and wide hips to go with his lankiness, and Eolan has big EVERYTHING (which is bad for delicate work so whoops) except for his average height, while Hates is a runt all around.

Not only does it lend to better character customization, it makes the world feel less game-y. In games before Skyrim EVERYONE in the same race/gender group was identical in terms of body shape. Which made people having a moniker like "The Portly" somehow have an adventurer's body instead of being, well, portly.

But then Skyrim just gave NPCs a variety of frames which helped somewhat, but regardless of weight men were always ridiculously ripped. It made playing what was supposed to be a waifish Khajiit necromancer awkward, not gonna lie. I like to pretend it was all fur fluff. It also forced me to change Alois's appearance. (Which I planned to illustrate eventually) But then that was also because EVERYONE had to be horribly weathered because reasons. Even people who'd have reasonable access to things like regular skincare.

idk now i'm just complaining about past Elder Scrolls games. Point is i love that FO4 brought in the body triangle with a robust face editor and I hope that it means TES VI will have most if not all of ESO's sliders.

Also have this cube, which I posted before but it hadn't shown up here.


I just...really appreciate how cube-like[/url] Eolan is.

Heh, even in just a shirt and pants, Eolen looks like a tank!

Alois and Roggi! I was under the impression from playing Oblivion that Bretons were taller than Imperials, so Skyrim heights were a surprise. I ended up making my own tweak mod to make Bretons taller and Bosmers shorter.

I am another fan of the ESO body customizer. I have seen just about every flavor represented in the game, except no one seems to make chubby female wood elves.

I love the contrast between Eolan, Hates, and Jo’zira’s appearances. Even Eolan’s facial hair makes a cube!

Wow, I never realized it was adding the weight in Oblivion that changed the body size! That is really interesting!

I made a mouse follower mod in Oblivion and had to play with the weight to make him stop being flung about in combat. He was supposed to look fat anyway (due to his background story); so I was hoping adding the weight would make him plump. It didn't, but he was so sturdy he could knock an NPC enemy 15 foot into the air on attack!

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That Skyrim "Weathered" look is one of the things that totally turned me off of the game. I couldn't make myself play it until SubRosa gave me step by step instructions on how to beautify the characters, Even with my males I prefer a bit of an androgynous look rather than the badass "tough as nails" faces of those Skyrim men. In ESO = not real happy with how my Bubba came out, he looks way too buff and tough (but definitely not as bad as Skyrim's males).






He is most def shaped solidly and very "Tankish" looking!

I agree with all this about Skyrim males.

I was trying to create a "Nijel the Destroyer" character to play with Conina the Hairdresser. He's supposed to be over six feet tall, and about 100lb. You can't make that kind of wimpy, not matter how hard you try, and he's also disappointed me by learning how to use his sword. The idea was he'd just block and let Conina (who's supposed to be the one with the genes for it) do all the work. Lately, however, he's been getting his own kill-cams! And that's with an unimproved iron greatsword.

Rincewind has learned to cast spells, too. That's why I gave up and rolled a Smurf instead.

It's always fun to hear how characters that were meant to be whimps suddenly find themselves being very capable thanks to how the games work. Like a "craft only" character i had in ESO that's suddenly capable of killing things, but only a little!

But yeah, I know they were trying to go for an ~aesthetic~, but personally I felt they undermined it by not allowing you to do the same to women characters (at least not as much as the men). I would have loved to play a big "Brawn Hilda" type character in Skyrim, with the girth and the twin braids and everything but nope. I mean I can probably do it now, since I have access to mods, but it's too late. :V



Anyways, here's a Dragonborn DLC Skyrim "comic" I drew a while back that i didn't want to post without context. And becaus4e Aza-jo looks a bit off-model.


It's a bit irritating how you're forced to read books before you pick them up. Especially the Black Books. Aza-jo resited the temptation by "bubbling" them with a precursor to my ESO Squad's inventory bubbles. In other words console-command Disable

Oh noes, Jo! Leave those ucky black books alone!

The Scourge of Skyrim

(seriously though, a lot of people die whether they meet or not)

Lol this reminds me of this meme:

Bandits are suicidal, I guess. Unsurprising.

I think about the fact that TES Heroes are a lot closer to the classical definition, like, a lot. I mean some people had it coming, but still, the Aza-jo and company did horrible, horrible things to Skyrim and the worst part is that it was preferable to Alduin and the dragons taking over. Fun times.

ANYWAYS

I made up a dumb interaction a while back and tried to make it into a comic, but not only was I unable to do the scene justice, I realized how dumb and borderline out of character it was. So have these 2 frames instead which more or less convey what I wanted to do.
Listen, I'm going to take Eolan's side on this mostly because he's the one that made the tea to begin with. The least they could do is humor him and not drink it like "degenerates." Disrespectful. Rude.

Oh, Eolan made the tea? How funny!

Eolan does all the cooking, being the Provisioner of the group. It's gotten to the point where they won't eat anything other than what he makes. (But they are learning how to cook the way he does. It's not going well)
'Course, he considers brewing alcoholic drinks his weak point.

Anyways, an extension, since I figured this one should have been included even though it lacks the, ah, transition.

Also I was digging though some folders and learned Eolan has made that very face in-game thanks to an update bug. (Using a blacksmithing station would make your character angery)

Wow! You are right, it is the exact same face!

Aw, I thought it was going to be the Telvanni personality when I saw this artwork in my email notices!







D'aaaw, look at the expression on Jo'zira's face!








BWAAHAA!!!!














Oh, that is funny! Why do they make the characters look mad to do their smithing?

That's Aza-jo. A different Jo. Mostly. Now they are. It's complicated.



There was a bug that came with the patch that added the Appearance Change Tokens that made characters sport really angry faces for no reason--usually caused by activating a crafting station (a lot of people say Smithing, but it's probably cause you get a direct look at the character's face). It was pretty well-documented in the main forums, but before I learned that I was really concerned about it because I had changed Eolan's face and deviated from what I did with his alt. (It's more angular than heroic, and I did some tweaks on the eyes and lips)
So for a while I thought I REALLY messed up, but it turns out it was just the bug. It's since been fixed.

Pretty hilarious, though. I can't believe I forgot about it.

I have never heard about that bug, that is hilarious!!!

Monkey! I love your artwork!

As someone who has struggled to depict her characters in sketches and drawings, I'm in awe of your ability to capture the personalities at play in your art. This combined with the comments you've made elsewhere in this forum have helped me form rather full impressions of your Squad!

@mALX - . (I keep finding the most appropriate screenshots in my folder)

@haute - Thanks! Given how...big any attempts at telling their story would be, I think it's the best I way I can do it. :V though I wish I could focus enough to do more like I wanted to


Anyways, I debated posting this because it's a flipping meme but I'm on a Skyrim roll atm so here's more of my Dragonborn Aza-jo and Alois.

Aha, now I get Eolan’s reaction to the uncouth tea service. The significance of the mug escaped me the first time around.

I remember that crafting bug. It was horrifying! Even my delicate Lil had a b-face. Eolan’s was quite a bit stronger.

Ha, the meme works for those two! Glad you posted it.

I tried drawing again recently but I guess I'm not really quite up to it. But as I was going through my WIP folder I found a relic from a darker time....
It is a huge image, btw[/url]

I hate this so much, but if you want one of my "original" "works" from 2012, here it is.

I love this!







This is amazing! Is this your first impressions of Skyrim? I absolutely LOVE your artwork!

More like...second impressions? This is an alternate version of another I did for Alois, who I played as Dragonborn like pretty much every other character that I decided wasn't even Dragonborn. Not really sure why, either. Zul'massa (now known as Aza-jo, his original name was a corruption of a non-TES character) was designed to be my "true" or "canonical" Dragonborn on the timeline I base all my characters in, and a lot of his traits were thought up ahead of time.

But I digress. Those are still basically my first impressions and for the most part are my current opinions. Spellmaking was one of my favorite features of Oblivion, and its loss along with a lot of other spell effects really hurt my enjoyment of the game. Combine it with the implication that some effects were removed to make shouts more unique, and how boring magic was in the vanilla game, and you got one of my most hated aspects of Skyrim. :V

Like with the insane amount of Draugr, sometimes story isn't enough to justify how awful certain gameplay elements are. (People like to make the excuse that because Nords are suddenly anti-magic and the Mages Guild split into two petty organizations that ended up losing a lot of magical knowledge along the way, magic will be awful in the game. Never mind that the College of Winterhold is an independent organization. This smacks of the terrible decisions made for Cyrodiil that turned it into High Rock Lite. They made Skyrim low fantasy for this Conan bullshit and killed a lot of the interesting bits of the Province and its people, but not as bad as what they did to Cyrodiil admittedly)

lol wow do I have a lot of opinions tonight. Did I mention I was playing SKyrim again with a fresh character?

I have nothing new, yet. Here's a preview of what I'm working on. Skyrim's still trendy, right? Cause I'm making a Skyrim-based "comic".







Also, I was throwing out going through some old stuff and found some more TES drawings circa 2012.

Pre-Dragonborn datamining promised mounted spellcasting. Turns out it was referring to being mounted on dragons, but before that was revealed my first thought was "BETHESDA WHAT HAVE YOU DONE, HE IS TOO POWERFUL NOW". So I sketched this out and forgot about it before I finished. Maybe I'll finish it and a few others I found. Back then, I used to care about my Eternal Champion and I actually played Arena/Daggerfall. :U

OH yeah, SKyrim is still very trendy. How ya doing monkey?

This guy looks like a spooked merchant. Like, he's one of those NPCs who one-lines us as we pass by, telling us of some monsters underground or something.

Great, thanks, Renee! Anyways, no spoilers till I'm done, but let's just say he's not the one that's spooked.

Anyways, I could have been working on that thing, but I've been playing Psychonauts lately and Steve Blum (the same guy responsible for Eolan's voice type--Breton A) voices a few odd characters. Some of his characters' lines seem to really fit Eolan and oops I wanted to do this while I still found it darkly funny.


"Right, I saw nothing."

(The characters in question happen to be the G-Men, from the Milkman Conspiracy level of Psychonauts)

Poor Eolan, lol!

It's fine, he has somewhat different hangups that have since been addressed. Somewhat.

(I just found out the G-Men disappear once the level they appear in is completed. Boo. I'm gonna miss their weird monologues about their professions. OH WAIT)

I love the G-men's lines. The assassin lines are so Dark Brotherhood.

Oh, geeze, you're right. It's so accurate it's almost offensive. Right down to how easily they get picked off.

D'Aaaw !!!!







This had me rolling!!!!

Hey, so I'm not sure what the rules on blood/gore are but lemme know if this crosses the line in any way.

This was supposed to be wacky. It was going to be followed up by him angrily chasing another leftover guard while screaming like a madman but...yeah.

He doesn't talk about Markarth. Neither does Genevieve. She helped with the smashing.

So.
Much.
Red!!!!

Khajiit loves it!

*mALX eyes the Catalina dressing on her salad...*

Uh, wait. Alois ideally thinks villains should have redemption, but ... who is the villain? Those are guards around his feet if I'm not mistaken!

Guards in Markarth are all corrupt. It is known.

Ah, I see!

Unlike most other threats that have a choice in the matter like bandits (who, in his mind, lose their chance the moment they attack--hell some of their idle dialogue has them mention preferring to die instead of going back to jail), he pulled off a Pelinal Whitestrake actually relished killing the guards, soul-trapping Thonar Silverblood and releasing Madanach. The last one was done in the heat of the moment and probably wasn't one of his best ideas.

Markarth is a nasty, nasty place and I think in the end the ones that suffer most are non-Forsworn Reachmen, no matter what happens. Alois and Genevieve left the place on fire (metaphorically!) and never returned.

Markarth is a complete mess. Funny thing is, Khajiit loves it and The Reach in general (it is a beautiful place, imo). The Forsworn are simply a reaction to years of oppression by the Nords. Doesn't make them right, but "for every action, blah, blah, equal or opposite reaction".

The true villainy in Markarth is the lack of guardrails on all of the stairs. You're more likely to trip and fall to your death on the way to the market than you are to encounter any Forsworn.

Also, people living in Dwemer structures rather than preserving them as historically significant sites makes Haa-Rei's scales itch.

Hey so I found this really old Oblivion sketch and I felt like sharing because Bretons are OP. When you get the Mundane Ring, mages are nothing to you.

I should finish it, tbh.

Bahahaha someone's on a power trip!

It was certainly fun to put the Mundane ring, Amulet of Axes, Ring of the Iron Fist, and Escutcheon of Chorrol on a Breton and just reflect or resist everything (except arrows). Especially the Arena fights. Walk out, wait a while, get declared winner, profit! I did much the same with a character that wasn't a Breton by enchanting a pair of the prisoner sandals to compensate.

I think they made the AI in Skyrim a bit better in that respect, as the mobs don't seem to attack themselves to death when you have the HA perk.

I think I achieved something similar with potions and Mankar's Robes. IIRC the ingredients used made them heavier than .1 but it was worth it having every enemy kill themselves by attacking. Think I murdered some Bravil guards that way but I still got charged for murder.

Anyways, I don't think I've leveled HA high enough to see the perk in action. Reflect Damage/Spells is one of those effects that I sorely missed. Not as much as waterwalking but... :T