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McBadgere
QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ May 20 2014, 01:24 PM) *

I'm watching Star Wars!!!

Han just shot Greedo!

Greedo didn't get a shot off!!

@%#% you Lucas!!! laugh.gif


*Applauds*... biggrin.gif ...

I much enjoy many of the redone effects in the '97 version...But the whole Greedo/change some of the cantina patrons...Not so much...
Callidus Thorn
QUOTE(McBadgere @ May 20 2014, 10:11 PM) *

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ May 20 2014, 01:24 PM) *

I'm watching Star Wars!!!

Han just shot Greedo!

Greedo didn't get a shot off!!

@%#% you Lucas!!! laugh.gif


*Applauds*... biggrin.gif ...

I much enjoy many of the redone effects in the '97 version...But the whole Greedo/change some of the cantina patrons...Not so much...


This is the only upside I credit vhs with: that only on video can you see the proper version of Star Wars
mirocu
I´m so happy I got the trilogy on VHS! Such a nice box it is and fun to have biggrin.gif
Callidus Thorn
I'm just glad I don't have to put up with Lucas' bs.

Han didn't shoot first nono.gif

Han just shot biggrin.gif

Greedo just died laugh.gif
mirocu
QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ May 20 2014, 11:27 PM) *

I'm just glad I don't have to put up with Lucas' bs.

Han didn't shoot first nono.gif

Han just shot biggrin.gif

Greedo just died laugh.gif

PERIOD! biggrin.gif
McBadgere
Yeah, I've got them on VHS too...Sadly, I've not got a VHS player anymore... biggrin.gif ...So it's DVD all the way, baby!!... laugh.gif ...
mirocu
I still have my VHS from before the new millennium.. laugh.gif


On topic: To watch Star Wars on hehe.gif
Callidus Thorn
QUOTE(McBadgere @ May 21 2014, 04:20 AM) *

Yeah, I've got them on VHS too...Sadly, I've not got a VHS player anymore... biggrin.gif ...So it's DVD all the way, baby!!... laugh.gif ...


*Shakes head*

Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny

McB has fallen to the darkside sad.gif
mirocu
Why? He said he used DVDs laugh.gif
Callidus Thorn
QUOTE(mirocu @ May 21 2014, 11:31 AM) *

Why? He said he used DVDs laugh.gif


Original Star Wars on DVD is the Lucas remastered version.

That is the darkside...
mirocu
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, okidoki biggrin.gif

You might even call it.... A TRAP!!! laugh.gif
Callidus Thorn
And soon, I'm going to be watching The Empire Strikes Back

On VHS of course biggrin.gif
mirocu
QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ May 21 2014, 12:38 PM) *

And soon, I'm going to be watching The Empire Strikes Back

On VHS of course biggrin.gif

Wait! I´m coming over with some popcorn!! biggrin.gif
Grits
QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ May 20 2014, 08:24 AM) *

I'm watching Star Wars!!!

Han just shot Greedo!

Greedo didn't get a shot off!!

@%#% you Lucas!!! laugh.gif

laugh.gif IPB Image

I still haven’t watched the Clone Wars series. That’s in the works. Should get to it by next summer.
Callidus Thorn
QUOTE(mirocu @ May 21 2014, 11:39 AM) *

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ May 21 2014, 12:38 PM) *

And soon, I'm going to be watching The Empire Strikes Back

On VHS of course biggrin.gif

Wait! I´m coming over with some popcorn!! biggrin.gif


Don't be silly nono.gif

You never have popcorn rollinglaugh.gif

And just for more Star Wars-ness in this post, I'm reading the Star Wars: X-Wing novels again! Nearly finished the first one biggrin.gif
Darkness Eternal
Anyone read Darth Plagueis by any chance? If so, what did you think of it?
McBadgere
In reverse order...

DE...I was actually very interested in the idea of a Darth Plagueis novel...And had it not been James Luceno, then I'd have had it...

Sadly, James Luceno and "Damn You" Denning are pretty much on the same level of "Not worth spitting on..." in terms of quality... biggrin.gif ...Shame really...I actually gave up on the Millenium Falcon novel Luceno did...I really did try, just for the Falcon's sake... biggrin.gif ...

Thorny!!!...My video player died and there was just no point buying another one...I could buy the versions with the Theatrical Release on...But that's more money again, and I'm so not that arsed really...

Whether that makes me less of a fan or not...I no know!...*Shrug*... tongue.gif ...

I'm doing this last Allston, X-Wing novel - Mercy Kill - meself...

I envy you your time, sir!!... laugh.gif ...
Callidus Thorn
QUOTE(McBadgere @ May 21 2014, 12:48 PM) *

DE...I was actually very interested in the idea of a Darth Plagueis novel...And had it not been James Luceno, then I'd have had it...

Sadly, James Luceno and "Damn You" Denning are pretty much on the same level of "Not worth spitting on..." in terms of quality... biggrin.gif ...Shame really...I actually gave up on the Millenium Falcon novel Luceno did...I really did try, just for the Falcon's sake... biggrin.gif ...


Well, I never read Darth Plagueis, though as far as James Luceno goes, I don't think he did too bad a job with Labyrinth of Evil and Dark Lord, they were pretty good books. I think they're the only books of his that I've read though.

QUOTE(McBadgere @ May 21 2014, 12:48 PM) *

Thorny!!!...My video player died and there was just no point buying another one...I could buy the versions with the Theatrical Release on...But that's more money again, and I'm so not that arsed really...

Whether that makes me less of a fan or not...I no know!...*Shrug*... tongue.gif ...


To paraphrase Yoda:

Quicker, easier, more seductive, the dark side is tongue.gif

laugh.gif
McBadgere
I'd forgotten how much I loved Allston's books...I mean, yeah, you ask me who's my fave SW author - Allston...Straight off...But reading Mercy Kill reminds me why...

I may have to buy the previous sequence that he did with "Damn You"...And, just like I did with the first one...Not buy the ending novel...

I just couldn't...

But, Allston rocks, so bad... laugh.gif ...



RIGHT!!!...


INFORMAL POLL TIME!!!!
...


FAVE STAR WARS CHARACTERS?!!!!...Go*Points*...Give reasons why, if you want...But it's not necessary... biggrin.gif ...

Just, who's yer Wars-y-boy/girl thang?...

Callidus Thorn
Favourite Star Wars characters? I'll avoid the characters from the films, just because they're the obvious choices:

Revan, pre TOR that is. Just for being epic, while still retaining depth of character.

Kreia, from KotOR2: the grayest character ever in Star Wars, but saying anymore would be a KotOR 2 spoiler.

Corran Horn/ Kieran Halcyon: Fighter pilot, detective, Jedi, and he even set Luke straight on a couple of points in I, Jedi.

Darth Bane, for utter badassery and clarity of vision. He might have been Sith, but he was THE Sith.

And of course:

Grand Admiral Thrawn.

Just for being Grand Admiral Thrawn.

Because no more reason is needed biggrin.gif

Edit:

*Facepalms, with planet shattering force*

I can't believe I forgot Kal Skirata and Bardan Jusik ohmy.gif
McBadgere
Ah, those Imperial Commando books were definitely amongst the best...Shame Lucasfilm and whatsit Filoni decided to shaft Karen Traviss with all that... kvleft.gif ...
Callidus Thorn
Yeah, that really was a shame, the characters were bloody brilliant sad.gif

Anyway, where're your favourite Star Wars characters?

You've yet to list any...
McBadgere
Well, I was hoping to encourage others to join in the discussion, rather than take it all up ourselves...Y'know?... biggrin.gif ...

Once I think about it properly, I'll let you know... laugh.gif ...

Likely to be Corran Horn and Wedge Antilles at the top though... biggrin.gif ...
mirocu
Corran Horn? huh.gif
Callidus Thorn
One of the characters from the Expanded Universe. Actually all my picks are from the Expanded Universe.
mirocu
Meeeeeeehh....


I go with Han, Vader and Yoda. Now that´s the A-Team! biggrin.gif
Callidus Thorn
Wookiepedia

For everything you could ever want to know, and everything else, about Star Wars biggrin.gif

Just thought I'd throw this in here...
mirocu
Does it contain a section about the real Star Wars only...? biggrin.gif
Callidus Thorn
AAAARRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!! panic.gif

Just saw a thread about this over at Bethsoft.

DAMN YOU DISNEY!!!!!!! mad.gif
McBadgere
*Is actually looking forward to that*...

biggrin.gif ...
Callidus Thorn
QUOTE(McBadgere @ May 23 2014, 10:39 AM) *

*Is actually looking forward to that*...

biggrin.gif ...


You're looking forward to Disney-made Star Wars spinoff/cashgrabs? ohmy.gif

Now where did I put that saberstaff...
mirocu
Let me share a good Nostalgia Critic quote:

"Don´t get too offended at all the changes made as long as you still have the original to enjoy"


I´m gonna remind myself of that quote everytime someone brings up Expanded Universe laugh.gif
Callidus Thorn
QUOTE(mirocu @ May 23 2014, 10:46 AM) *

Let me share a good Nostalgia Critic quote:

"Don´t get too offended at all the changes made as long as you still have the original to enjoy"


I´m gonna remind myself of that quote everytime someone brings up Expanded Universe laugh.gif


nono.gif

Expanded Universe is awesome.

Save that quote for the *shudders* prequels goodjob.gif
mirocu
Maybe you´re right. I thought of the *shudder* prequels as part of the Expanded Universe. Not really sure about what things are being called these days..
McBadgere
QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ May 23 2014, 10:41 AM) *


You're looking forward to Disney-made Star Wars spinoff/cashgrabs? ohmy.gif

Now where did I put that saberstaff...



Well yeah...Any Star Wars in the cinema is good for me...

We have a severe lack of decent adventure sci-fi at the moment...

And as J.J. has abandoned Trek for Wars then I'm happy to have however much they want to give headed our way...



As for the Expanded Universe...Quite obviously there are those that love it, and those that think it should stop with the films...

As I said at the start, I respect that...And don't feel that either side should be disparaged in any way...

But I know how much I've loved reading the E.U. stuff...Even if I'm having trouble remembering a lot of it now...*Sigh*...

But I'm pretty definite that Mercy Kill is headed to the top of my list of the most awesomely amazing favourite SW novels ever...It's so brilliant, it's almost tear inducing...
Callidus Thorn
QUOTE(mirocu @ May 23 2014, 10:49 AM) *

Maybe you´re right. I thought of the *shudder* prequels as part of the Expanded Universe. Not really sure about what things are being called these days..


Well, Lucas considers the films his universe, and the Expanded Universe the other universe. So for Lucas, only the films are canon.

Most fans of the EU consider it all Star Wars canon, except for the prequels.

And some people consider all of it to be canon.

And Disney consider it a cash-cow to be milked. mad.gif

Of course, it would be so much simpler if Lucas hadn't made the prequels dry.gif

QUOTE(McBadgere @ May 23 2014, 10:53 AM) *

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ May 23 2014, 10:41 AM) *


You're looking forward to Disney-made Star Wars spinoff/cashgrabs? ohmy.gif

Now where did I put that saberstaff...

Well yeah...Any Star Wars in the cinema is good for me...

We have a severe lack of decent adventure sci-fi at the moment...


I thought the same once, and then I saw the phantom menace verysad.gif

I do agree with you about the lack of adventure sci-fi though, really need to see some more...
McBadgere
QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ May 23 2014, 10:53 AM) *

I thought the same once, and then I saw the phantom menace verysad.gif

I do agree with you about the lack of adventure sci-fi though, really need to see some more...



Yeah...Okay...And once more I will point to my two...One of which is almost begging to be allowed to not watch Empire, but says The Phantom Menace is her favourite...

*Shrug*...

I enjoyed The Phantom Menace...And will more than likely watch it again at some point...I'm still not sure what everyone's problem is with it...And bear in mind that any opinion is all From A Certain Point Of View™...
mirocu
QUOTE(McBadgere @ May 23 2014, 12:00 PM) *

bear in mind that any opinion is all From A Certain Point Of View™...

Wise words from the scruffy-looking Nerf herder biggrin.gif
McBadgere
Who's scruffy look-*Catches sight of reflection*...

Nevermind... laugh.gif ...
SubRosa
QUOTE(McBadgere @ May 23 2014, 05:53 AM) *

And as J.J. has abandoned Trek for Wars

That's good for Star Trek. Bad for Star Wars though... If Disney owning the franchise was not bad enough... Now if they could get someone like Bryan Singer to make the movies, they might turn out decent.
stargelman
At least Rick Berman and Brannon Braga aren't ruining Star Wars now, so... it could be worse smile.gif
McBadgere
QUOTE(SubRosa @ May 23 2014, 04:20 PM) *

QUOTE(McBadgere @ May 23 2014, 05:53 AM) *

And as J.J. has abandoned Trek for Wars

That's good for Star Trek. Bad for Star Wars though... If Disney owning the franchise was not bad enough... Now if they could get someone like Bryan Singer to make the movies, they might turn out decent.

Well, unless Singer's got a good lawyer, he's not going to be making much except himself known to the prison warden for a while... biggrin.gif ...if the allegations are proved true etc...

*Sigh*...Well, I'll just continue to be the lone J.J. fan in the room then... biggrin.gif ...I don't mind, I've been a fan of Marillion for long enough...I'm used to it... laugh.gif ...

Well, I'll be first in the queue for all and any SW films that come our way...Well...With the kids anyways...No, I'm not dressing up...Well...Maybe give the Obi-Wan look a spin...Who knows?...



Berman and Braga...*Shudders*...
Callidus Thorn
Aargh!

All this talk of Star Wars has me itching to break out a game. I've got Jedi Academy, but I doubt it'll run too well on the 360 sad.gif

Which leaves me with KotOR 1 & 2, and getting them to run on windows 8 will be a pain. Assuming I can even get them to run.

And my options for picking one up for the 360 are either Lego Star Wars, or The Force Unleashed sad.gif

*Sigh*
stargelman
I guess TOR ain't a crowd favorite around here biggrin.gif
Darkness Eternal
Favorite characters: Darth Maul, Darth Vader, Darth Sidious, Darth Tyranus, Darth Bane( thank you sir for helping the Sith.survive), Darth.Zannah. I sort of liked Darth Revan but he was corrupted by the lightside after being manipulated and brain-wiped by the Jedi. Starkiller was interesting but he, like Revan, turned evil.

Now, Jango and Boba are my favorites non-force users.

Edit: Star Wars 1313 and.Star Wars: Damage being cancelled was the worst decision ever made. We would've played as Boba Fett and Darth Maul as the protagonists. What the hell George Lucas!? And screw Disney.
McBadgere
QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ May 23 2014, 07:54 PM) *


And my options for picking one up for the 360 are either Lego Star Wars, or The Force Unleashed sad.gif



Lego Star Wars is bloody awesome though... biggrin.gif ...I mean, come on!...Who doesn't love the Lego Han and his winking?...Or the Lego Lando's hand kissing thing?... laugh.gif ...Love it!!!!...


DE...I never imagined that...Not for a second...You've chaaanged... tongue.gif ...

Oh, wait huh.gif ...No...Nevermind... wink.gif ...

( biggrin.gif )...
Callidus Thorn
QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ May 23 2014, 08:08 PM) *

Favorite characters: Darth Maul, Darth Vader, Darth Sidious, Darth Tyranus, Darth Bane( thank you sir for helping the Sith.survive), Darth.Zannah. I sort of liked Darth Revan but he was corrupted by the lightside after being manipulated and brain-wiped by the Jedi. Starkiller was interesting but he, like Revan, turned evil.


Vader, Sidious, Tyrannus, and Bane, I get. They were all good characters, and I love the books focusing on Bane. But Maul? Does he get a pass just for being a Sith? That guy was a major letdown as Sith go. Not only was he an utterly one-dimensional character (one of the worst parts of the phantom menace was that flop of a villain compared to Vader) but he then got himself sliced clean in two by a padawan.

[[edited by stargel: major spoiler wrapped in spoiler tag]]

"Corrupted be the light side", "turned evil", are you trying to run the old "Jedi are really the evil ones, and the Sith are the righteous" argument?

Because if so I'm more than happy to throw down about that wink.gif


McB- Maybe the one that covers the first three movies (as in IV, V, VI) could be worth considering...
Vital
QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ May 24 2014, 06:43 AM) *

McB- Maybe the one that covers the first three movies (as in IV, V, VI) could be worth considering...

I swear I played one like that on my ds ages ago...
McBadgere
QUOTE
"Corrupted be the light side", "turned evil", are you trying to run the old "Jedi are really the evil ones, and the Sith are the righteous" argument?

Because if so I'm more than happy to throw down about that


Well, as long as it's respectful of the rights of others to disagree...Go for it... biggrin.gif ...

As for Lego Star Wars...

The Complete Saga was the first game I ever played on the PS3 and was impressed by how much the graphics were an improvement on the PS2, Original Trilogy game...I'm not sure about the X-Box versions...How much they changed/improved or anything...

But I definitely prefer the cantina in the PS2 one to the PS3 one...So much bigger and more stuff to do...

I've completed both PS2 games to 100%...I've never finished the PS3 one...I can never get through the third film in either set...*Sigh*...The same for the second Lego Indy one...But that's a different franchise... laugh.gif ...
Darkness Eternal
QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ May 23 2014, 09:43 PM) *

QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ May 23 2014, 08:08 PM) *

Favorite characters: Darth Maul, Darth Vader, Darth Sidious, Darth Tyranus, Darth Bane( thank you sir for helping the Sith.survive), Darth.Zannah. I sort of liked Darth Revan but he was corrupted by the lightside after being manipulated and brain-wiped by the Jedi. Starkiller was interesting but he, like Revan, turned evil.


Vader, Sidious, Tyrannus, and Bane, I get. They were all good characters, and I love the books focusing on Bane. But Maul? Does he get a pass just for being a Sith? That guy was a major letdown as Sith go. Not only was he an utterly one-dimensional character (one of the worst parts of the phantom menace was that flop of a villain compared to Vader) but he then got himself sliced clean in two by a padawan.

[[edited by stargel: major spoiler wrapped in spoiler tag]]

"Corrupted be the light side", "turned evil", are you trying to run the old "Jedi are really the evil ones, and the Sith are the righteous" argument?

Because if so I'm more than happy to throw down about that wink.gif




The movies didn't do Darth Maul any true justice on his character. He was a mysterious, dark-clothed Sith we knew nothing about. All we knew about this guy is that he's an alien, he wants revenge against the Jedi, he's a Sith Lord and he's apprentice to Sidious. The EU did give him more justice than the movies ever did, and I started liking him much more since we got more story on him. I guess, though, that EU is no longer canon so we have to stick with what we saw of him in the Clone Wars(I hate you, Dave Filoni).

The fact that he got sliced in two by a padawan was due to his overconfidence as a Sith Lord. His ego, as many Sith, is way high. Hell, Sidious warned him that he's not a one-being army and that if he keeps being cocky he's going to end up getting more than scratch(he told this to him after he got wounded after butchering a bunch of Black Sun criminals all over the Outer Rim territories). As far as I remembered, Maul, a Sith apprentice killed Jedi master( a skilled Jedi MASTER) Qui-Gon Jinn, and then was able to overpower Obi-Wan and leave him hanging for his life. Instead of killing the padawan, Maul taunted him. That's what got him sliced in half, his arrogance.

Darth Vader was the same deal. His arrogance and believing he had the ultimate power resulted in his losing of his limbs and suffering fourth-degree burns and encasing him in a metal suit of a prison his entire life. Darth Tyranus was overconfident as well in his duel against Anakin Skywalker. He believed he had the upper hand and could use Dun Moch(a technique used to lower an opponent's self esteem via psychological warfare) and he lost his head when it backfired on him.

Hmm, on Revan:

The whole Sith being good and Jedi evil is more of a tease I like to use through my own point of view. Like I said, going by the books, the Sith believe the Jedi are corrupt, hypocritical, and to some extent, evil(Darth Vader, and Darth Tyranus referring Yoda to a "shriveled and evil green potato). I just believe it is a matter of perspective, and everything else is just relative.
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