HyPN0
May 31 2006, 04:08 PM
QUOTE(Wikipedia)
Machiavellianism is the term some social and personality psychologists use to describe a person's tendency to deceive and manipulate others for gain. Whether the gain is personal or not is of no relevance, only that the resulting actions are the goal and the means by which one achieves the results are only important insofar as it affects the results
So, how manipulative are you? Take the test
here.
My score is 70.
Khajiit Overlord Rainer
May 31 2006, 04:32 PM
Rainer got a 54.
stargelman
May 31 2006, 04:35 PM
You are a low Mach, you reject Machiavelli's opinions. (score 49)
Neela
May 31 2006, 05:11 PM
Your Machiavelli score is: 60
You are a "average Mach."
Most people fall somewhere in the middle, but there's a significant minority at either extreme.
Guess I am just average here
ThanadoS
May 31 2006, 05:16 PM
hmm not taking the test, for the term emerged from people who obviously didn't read machiavelli and therefore thought he was pro rigorous power/might gaining.
I soon won't have any more cents ready as i'm giving them away in pairs all the time
stargelman
May 31 2006, 05:56 PM
QUOTE(ThanadoS @ May 31 2006, 05:16 PM)
hmm not taking the test, for the term emerged from people who obviously didn't read machiavelli and therefore thought he was pro rigorous power/might gaining.
I soon won't have any more cents ready as i'm giving them away in pairs all the time

Heh yeah, I was thinking the same. Guess they didn't read the prince. It isn't very scientific anyway, just for laughs.
ThanadoS
May 31 2006, 06:11 PM
well then... 72

I rule y'all!
Kiln
May 31 2006, 06:21 PM
I got an 88...according to this I'm charming and confident...take that!
Actually...I think that the test is wrong because they say if you score high then you are also calculating and cynical, arrogant, and prone to manipulate...I refuse to accept it...I am far too awesome to be arrogant.
ThanadoS
May 31 2006, 06:37 PM
QUOTE(Kiln @ May 31 2006, 06:21 PM)
I refuse to accept it...I am far too awesome to be arrogant.

LOL, word
Mazelure
May 31 2006, 07:05 PM
I would tell you what I got... but no... it makes me seem as a manipulative monster... witch I am not... right?...
mplantinga
May 31 2006, 07:48 PM
I got a 53.
Clearly all that means is that I can't make up my mind one way or the other.
Wait, that might not be true; I'll have to think about that.
DarkHunter
May 31 2006, 08:34 PM
hmmm I have a high 80... but I'm a sneaky kinda guy! Not 'Charming'...
I think it's broken *hits it with a hammer* i wonder if it works now?
softwhisper
May 31 2006, 11:16 PM
i scored a 100
i will rule the world! (not really)
but i really did score a 100. manipulation is a tool i use all the time, every time. and i've gotten pretty good at it over the years.
Megil Tel-Zeke
May 31 2006, 11:35 PM
No doubt inspired by Machiavelli's The Prince in which Machiavelli outlines the perfect ruler for europe and the world, particularly on man, Cesare Borgia.
without taking teh quiz I can tell you I have low Machs.
btw it's a good read.
1234king
May 31 2006, 11:59 PM
78, haha i got second best so far. apparently im a high mach. dont know what that means but all i know is that i rule more than everyone here except kiln. stupid kiln
Dantrag
Jun 1 2006, 02:39 AM
59. But that's okay. I don't pride myself in my manipulative abilities.
Erhm... 90.
I remember playing risk every day in grade 6. My teacher let us skip periods to end games. After convincing two people into Kamakazi, turning someone into a blithering mess of fear for attack, forcing my teacher into a European death march and sacking Asia with nothing but intimidation, I got the nick name Machi and later the manipulater. You cannot manipulate the manipulator!
Fethenwen
Jun 1 2006, 03:14 AM
Hmm, 78, well, I'm not sure if I should be flattered or what ..
Ibis
Jun 1 2006, 07:56 AM
Well, guess I'm a High Mach ... I scored a 96.
But in my defense, i came home from work in a wicked mood, mad at somebody there & took the test somewhat as blowing off steam, I guess.
... weally, I'm not so all-that-bad.
Bofra
Jun 1 2006, 02:41 PM
QUOTE(Ibis @ Jun 1 2006, 07:56 AM)
Well, guess I'm a High Mach ... I scored a 96.

Now I'm scared of you.. Maybe you are just manipulating us all making us part of your wicked plan to take over the world!
DarkHunter
Jun 1 2006, 03:59 PM
Total Score: 91... I will destroy you in Rick Kiln... Even after reading all the rules I tricked my brother into a suicide attack from Russia's corner to Alaska... Then I had my Dad take a last stand in Australia... and after that I tricked my friend into trying to cross the Africa/South America section and killed him from behind.
Plus: I tricked a local person that beats me up quite a bit... I ws like oh no! and started running away from him... of course he decided I was the more fun person to beat up so he chased me, until I got to a wall where I did a wall plant (without the skateboard of course) and took out a baseball bat in mid air and smacked him up-side the head... He never chased me any where ever again...
Wolfie
Jun 1 2006, 04:00 PM
I got a 59
Kiln
Jun 1 2006, 05:32 PM
QUOTE(DarkHunter @ Jun 1 2006, 02:59 PM)
Total Score: 91... I will destroy you in Rick Kiln...
Yeah but you took it twice. Or did you forget that you put your first score on first page of this?
milanius
Jun 1 2006, 08:01 PM
QUOTE(That page with the test)
Your Machiavelli score is: 58
You are a low Mach, you reject Machiavelli's opinions.
Meh. I guess that the means DON'T justify the end... or was it the other way 'round ??
QUOTE(Fethenwen @ Jun 1 2006, 02:14 AM)
Hmm, 78, well, I'm not sure if I should be flattered or what ..
QUOTE(Ibis @ Jun 1 2006, 06:56 AM)
Well, guess I'm a High Mach ... I scored a 96.
But in my defense, i came home from work in a wicked mood, mad at somebody there & took the test somewhat as blowing off steam, I guess.
... weally, I'm not so all-that-bad.

Women

Y'all are a bit whitchy, aren't you ?????
HyPN0
Jun 1 2006, 08:26 PM
QUOTE(milanius @ Jun 1 2006, 09:01 PM)
Women

Y'all are a bit whitchy, aren't you ?????

Hey no fair! You didn't post
your results and you're criticising others!

Let's see
you Mil!

P.S.
Yes, they indeed are witches... Some more, some less, but they're witches alright...

And they have special ways to get a man do what they want

EDIT: *Homer Simpson voice* Dooh!
You put your results in a quote. It was kinda unclear. Sorry about the above.
DarkHunter
Jun 1 2006, 08:38 PM
Kiln: I forgot to post my score...
Dantrag
Jun 1 2006, 08:46 PM
QUOTE(DarkHunter @ Jun 1 2006, 03:38 PM)
Kiln: I forgot to post my score...
Actually, you said you got in the high 80s.
Not much difference though.
DarkHunter
Jun 1 2006, 08:55 PM
I was commenting on the high 80's not my score (yes, I did do it twice the 91 being my first score)
HyPN0
Jun 1 2006, 09:02 PM
Lame excuse DarkHunter. And not belivable too.
You have been.....
Owned!
Kiln
Jun 1 2006, 09:23 PM
QUOTE(HyPN0 @ Jun 1 2006, 08:02 PM)
Lame excuse DarkHunter. And not belivable too.
You have been.....
Owned!OMG...that picture is hilarious but it would truly suck if that were me...a moment of silence for the soccer player.
*Brief silence*
Ok silence over...its not that it really matters anyways, its just something to do for fun...the test itself proves nothing about your personality.
HyPN0
Jun 1 2006, 09:27 PM
QUOTE(Kiln @ Jun 1 2006, 10:23 PM)
Ok silence over...its not that it really matters anyways, its just something to do for fun...the test itself proves nothing about your personality.
True.
Foster
Jun 1 2006, 11:20 PM
I got a nice, normal and healthy 72, though that is mainly because I am completely jaded about the world and convinced that people are out to get me. Because they are. That's not paranoia. Oh no. No. They're really wanting to get me. Why wouldn't they? Yes. Not paranoia, not this time.
HyPN0
Jun 1 2006, 11:24 PM
QUOTE(Foster @ Jun 2 2006, 12:20 AM)
I got a nice, normal and healthy 72, though that is mainly because I am completely jaded about the world and convinced that people are out to get me. Because they are. That's not paranoia. Oh no. No. They're really wanting to get me. Why wouldn't they? Yes. Not paranoia, not this time.
Your real name wouldn't happen to be Glathir by any chance?
J\K
Chalur
Jun 2 2006, 12:18 AM
Glarthir, bahahaha, thats a good one.
I got a 54. I'm a low-mach. So, those that mean that I'm a gullible little idiot? I dont think so because Im screw up my friends plan to trick me all the time, is like a hobbie.
Kiln
Jun 2 2006, 12:43 AM
QUOTE(Chalur @ Jun 1 2006, 11:18 PM)
Glarthir, bahahaha, thats a good one.
I got a 54. I'm a low-mach. So, those that mean that I'm a gullible little idiot? I dont think so because Im screw up my friends plan to trick me all the time, is like a hobbie.
Welcome to the forums.
Yeah I used to be pretty gullible as well but then I turned to Foster's way of thinking.
Foster
Jun 2 2006, 01:15 AM
QUOTE(Kiln @ Jun 2 2006, 12:43 AM)
Welcome to the forums.
Yeah I used to be pretty gullible as well but then I turned to Foster's way of thinking.

Too right. Nobody can stab you in the back if you don't let anybody close.
It's like my father taught me: Age and trechery will overcome youth and enthusiasm.
Ibis
Jun 2 2006, 08:44 AM
Foster, are you sure you didn't divide your score in half before you told it to us? I expected you to ace 110 easy!! j/k
QUOTE(Bofra @ Jun 1 2006, 09:41 AM)

Now I'm scared of you.. Maybe you are just manipulating us all making us part of your wicked plan to take over the world!

Darn!! Bofra you're too smart for me. Who'm I gonna get now for my evil takeover plans??
QUOTE(milanius @ Jun 1 2006, 03:01 PM)
Women

Y'all are a bit whitchy, aren't you ?????

ROFLMAO!!!
QUOTE(HyPN0 @ Jun 1 2006, 03:26 PM)
Hey no fair! You didn't post
your results and you're criticising others!

Let's see
you Mil!

P.S.
Yes, they indeed are witches... Some more, some less, but they're witches alright...

And they have special ways to get a man do what they want

Oh c'mon now!! You know you want to hold our purse for 4 hours while we try clothes on at the mall, visit all our girlfriends weddings, give up your nights out with the boys and sports & drinking & betting in favor of art galleries, gift shops and girl flics at the movies.
HyPN0
Jun 2 2006, 09:59 AM
QUOTE(Ibis @ Jun 2 2006, 09:44 AM)
Oh c'mon now!! You know you want to hold our purse for 4 hours while we try clothes on at the mall, visit all our girlfriends weddings, give up your nights out with the boys and sports & drinking & betting in favor of art galleries, gift shops and girl flics at the movies.
HAHAHA

Good one!
Well, as I said, you woman have ways to pursuade a man to actulaly do that
But not me. Nope, I won't end up being controled by a woman... Witch spells don't work on me
milanius
Jun 2 2006, 10:37 AM
QUOTE(Foster @ Jun 1 2006, 10:20 PM)
I got a nice, normal and healthy 72, though that is mainly because I am completely jaded about the world and convinced that people are out to get me. Because they are. That's not paranoia. Oh no. No. They're really wanting to get me. Why wouldn't they? Yes. Not paranoia, not this time.
Welcome to
Teh Club, Murr... I mean, Foster

QUOTE(Ibis @ Jun 2 2006, 07:44 AM)
Foster, are you sure you didn't divide your score in half before you told it to us? I expected you to ace 110 easy!! j/k
Darn!! Bofra you're too smart for me. Who'm I gonna get now for my evil takeover plans??
ROFLMAO!!!
Oh c'mon now!! You know you want to hold our purse for 4 hours while we try clothes on at the mall, visit all our girlfriends weddings, give up your nights out with the boys and sports & drinking & betting in favor of art galleries, gift shops and girl flics at the movies.
*sigh* you win

my life, I guess, isn't nearly as tough as yours.
Foster
Jun 2 2006, 11:39 AM
QUOTE(Ibis @ Jun 2 2006, 08:44 AM)
Oh c'mon now!! You know you want to hold our purse for 4 hours while we try clothes on at the mall, visit all our girlfriends weddings, give up your nights out with the boys and sports & drinking & betting in favor of art galleries, gift shops and girl flics at the movies.
You forgot how we love it when you berate us for leaving the toilet seat up (it works both ways - up for us, down for you, it's not hard), or how women seem to have this right to go psycho for 5 days every month, or how we love it when you insist on mapreading in a car and get us lost, or the wonders of being asked to buy the nasty-woman-thing when we're at the supermarket (that's just gross), or how you only seem to need the toilet when we're about to leave, and then you spend five minutes in there (or worse, when you go to the toilet in PACKS - why can't you go on your own? This is why the women queues are longer!), or, my personal favorite, how you insist on wearing high heels, and then insist on moaning about how much your feet hurt all night.
And what the hell is it about candles and baths? You're like a bunch of pyromaniacs. It's a bath. Just sit in it. You don't need to surround yourself with fire as though it's some kind of pagan ritual.
Ibis
Jun 2 2006, 02:59 PM
ROFLMAO!!! Foster!!
When did they reign in our right to go psycho to only 5 days a month? As to pagan rituals - you don't consider 3 or 4 shelves worth of hair and body products to be a pagan ritual - - to ourselves? I have candles but never light them, they still smell good.
canis216
Jun 2 2006, 03:48 PM
63. But I'm more manipulative in practice than in theory...
Khajiit Overlord Rainer
Jun 2 2006, 04:21 PM
QUOTE(Ibis @ Jun 2 2006, 01:44 AM)
Darn!! Bofra you're too smart for me. Who'm I gonna get now for my evil takeover plans??
The only way Rainer can see "evil takeover" from Ibis is that we all start posting teeheehee's or write in colour in every post

Other than that, The only way you can see "Ibis" and "Evil" in the same sentence is that "Cannot possibly be" is in between.
Your just too nice to be evil.
Foster
Jun 2 2006, 04:21 PM
Suck up.
Khajiit Overlord Rainer
Jun 2 2006, 04:24 PM
QUOTE(Foster @ Jun 2 2006, 09:21 AM)
Eh...It's they way Rainer lives

He is the most likely candidate in his family to be strangled by his father, so being smart-mouthed and rebellous gets Rainer in alot of trouble.
HyPN0
Jun 2 2006, 04:45 PM
QUOTE(Foster @ Jun 2 2006, 05:21 PM)
There is no need of being rude.
Kiln
Jun 2 2006, 05:55 PM
QUOTE(Foster @ Jun 2 2006, 10:39 AM)
You forgot how we love it when you berate us for leaving the toilet seat up (it works both ways - up for us, down for you, it's not hard), or how women seem to have this right to go psycho for 5 days every month, or how we love it when you insist on mapreading in a car and get us lost, or the wonders of being asked to buy the nasty-woman-thing when we're at the supermarket (that's just gross), or how you only seem to need the toilet when we're about to leave, and then you spend five minutes in there (or worse, when you go to the toilet in PACKS - why can't you go on your own? This is why the women queues are longer!), or, my personal favorite, how you insist on wearing high heels, and then insist on moaning about how much your feet hurt all night.
And what the hell is it about candles and baths? You're like a bunch of pyromaniacs. It's a bath. Just sit in it. You don't need to surround yourself with fire as though it's some kind of pagan ritual.

-there's no way to fit enough of these smilies to describe how funny that was. Sadly, its all so true....

No offense to the ladies here because come on, you know its true.
Lord DoomsDay
Jun 2 2006, 10:19 PM
My master of the universe score is...... 62?
O' Well, geus im more humane than I thought.
N E case, Ibis evil? You never know, Hitler started out as a house painter.
teeheeheee
What the hell is that teehee doing here?
THEEEEHEEEEEHEEEEEE!!!!!!!OH'NO!!! THE IBIS WORLD INVASION HAS BEGUN!!! RUN CHILDREN RRRUUUNNNN
Foster
Jun 3 2006, 12:53 AM
Invasion? Blast. Someone call the Orinithologists, and maybe resurrect Alfred Hitchcock. He'd know what to do.
Or get Rainer. Cat's eat birds, right?
1234king
Jun 3 2006, 05:24 AM
ahhhhh women, they're just another hand in your pocket. but then again, i guess it's worth it

"edit" ooops sry did the smiley wrong
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