oh, that sucks shogun. here have some and coffee. but anyway, argh popups are second on my list of things that i hate so very, very much. The top thing is waiting.

poor Shogun... i wish i could help...

Shogun: I feel your pain. My man is moving about an hour away to go to college.

yeah, se's movin.. well i dont know where exactly, because of some court case fiasco. her family got threatened and so they don't feel safe there anymore.. somthing like that, it really bites.

and it's not like i'm worried whether she would stay loyal or anything.. i'm worried about how loyal i can stay without seeing her but maybe once every 2-3 weeks

I'm really torn to pieces and don't know what to do...

Aw, man... I'm so sorry. Why can't you see her more often?

well i can't drive (im 15... jeeze) and just about every weekend im off to NC (about an hour and a half away) because of my grandma wasting away...

i can't go during the week cause there is too much school stuff going on. summer perhaps, then i'll be off to florida for most of that..

Where in NC, if I may ask? (As well as change the subject a little)

black mountain, near asheville. if you still dont know, its on the very western part of the state.

That's too bad
I kind'a know how you feel. My boyfriend went to England for some months ago to work. Ok, he's not gonna be there forewer, he will be back this summer.
But yeah, it sucks allright. I don't even recall how he looks like anymore. I've only had time and money to visit him once, and he's been visiting once too.

Well, an hour away is not that long. I'm sure you could get someone to drive you or something, even one visit once a month is enough to keep a relationship together. Just make sure you call each other

OMGZ peeps.. School really sucked today.. (thats fairly normal come this late in the year) and so I was rather down today, even though it was my burfday.

But i go to the gas station with a few of my buddies to pick up something to drink.. and I see two of my friend girls fighting each other in the MIDDLE of the STREET. I was like wtf.. And my buds girl got beat up pretty badly and he was really pissed cause that other chick tossed a cig in his car (nice street car) and kicked the side of it.

So yea, today was awesome... Reminds me of the gladiator days

you almost contradicted yourself in a single post... yeah what do you do when some girl beats up your girl friend? its not like you can exactly go and avenge her...

happy birfday BTW

Hmm I did contradict myself didn't I? Ok..

Today sucked untill I saw a fight, then it was good.

Is that better?

So you like female fights?
Haha,they really look funny!

You should always bring along a couple of Calm scrolls... Or Frenzy to make it a bit more interesting...

Seriously, that doesn't sound too good. Any idea what they where fighting about?

or why/how they were fighting in the middle of a street?

Yeah I noticed that, it blended in with everything else and wasn't too distracting. Please do us all a favor Stargel and never allow those huge flashing ads...man I hate those...

omg thats excatlly what happened to me. i had one of the worst days ever, beu then i saw someone i hate get their a$$ stomped, so it made everything better.

So everyone likes seeing other get ''stomped''?
Is there anybody who actualy likes to fight himself\herself?

oh are you kidding i love to fight, i got into a fight last month but lost.

Share that little story with us will you?

I just found out I hate my internett , it is 0,4 mbit, yes it's slower than possible, and it works only half of the time
But i'm ok with Oblovion and Dreamfall

oh he got into a fight with my friend a while back and kicked his boat, so after that i faught with him and lost. i'm not aure why he fought my other friend though.

There was a fight at my school a few days ago between two HUUUUGE, fat girls. Needless to say, it was quite entertaining.

I've never been in a fight, maybe when I was little offcourse. But in later years no.
I wish I were, would be interresting to test my skills...

now that didn't sound good, when did I get violent?
Anyway, last year there was these two bald (yes you read right - bald) girls who started to get rough with me totally without any reason. They just: -you think you're pretty huh? Fancy pants!
And so on, but I got them to shut up and awoided a fight. But it was a close one, they started to push me and stuff.
Hehe, that was incredible, what is this world going to when girls start to act like that?

Hey, c'mon, it's the 21st century

Anyway, what's that proverb? Ah yes. "The best way to survive a fight is not to get into one". If you have the skills to talk your way out of a fight, it's always your best option. Even if your pride may take a hit in the process.

I know, because I had both. When I was a kid, I didn't take crap from anyone. I was among the smallest, but when someone thought they could mess with me, I'd stand up to them. It did mean a broken bone or two though, and if one of my opponents had pulled a knife... well. In retrospect, it seems pretty dumb


Recently, I haven't been in any fights. Well, no physical fights, only verbal ones. Last year though, I did see a rather entertaining fight - feel almost guilty to admit it was entertaining. I was sitting with some friends in a restaurant outdoors at a place that has a few kiosks and a really rotten fast food thing where people really only go to buy booze, and we were just talking and there was this one guy who was really really drunk walking out of it. Then, all of a sudden a second man came out of there and started to really beat the other guy up like only a drunken guy with absolutely no restraint can do - hitting him in the face real hard, again and again. That poor guy was bleeding and then he went down, and the other guy kept kicking him. Poor guy #1 wasn't moving and a few people approached, probably to see if there was any way to stop the fight without having their own spotted owl kicked, but guy #2 stopped on his own and went back in.

So far, so cruel. Now comes the funny bit. Guy #1 is still on the ground, bleeding, being helped by some passer-bys. He seems really dizzy and barely moves when the police arrive. Now guess what happened! Obviously, nothing had happened. At least that's the impression both guy #1 and #2 tried to convey to the police. They both told the police they were friends and that nothing had happened, and they probably told them that #1 had fallen down or walked into a post or something. They even tried to leave together! The policemen of course didn't buy it but didn't know what to do so drove off. Guy #1 and #2 walked around a bit and then the police came back (they probably tried to catch them in the act or something) and eventually they arrested them both.

Now that was irritating.

The last time I was in a fight (well, only real time) was when I was mugged, a few years back. The police reckoned it wasn't a money attack, but because I had the wrong colour skin in the wrong kind of area. Of course they couldn't prove it. Same thing has happened to several of my friends (one even being chased down the street by a car), but the police don't do anything because 'kill the whites' and 'your kind don't belong around here' don't count as racist insults. I'll be glad when I get the hell out of this town.

The one thing that happened recently with fights for me was to some people I knew, who were sued. A person was badly beaten outside of a nightclub, and a group of doctors who were having a night out stopped to help him. They saved his life until the paramedics came. Then he sued them for practicing their emergency medical skills whilst being under the influence of alcohol. He didn't win, fortunately.

All in all, society is going down the pan.

I bet it was!

Once you let them be their way,they only become more arrogant.What did you do then,when they started pushing you up?I don't know how goes for females,but if someone pushed me,he would get an instant fist in the head.It really doesn't metter who's stonger.For me,if somebody punches me,it's my obligation to fight back.As soon as I hit him back,the fight is over to me.Do i get beaten up,or does he gets beaten up it doesn't metter.I showed that i got guts,and if I ''win''(There is not really a ''wining condition'',once you done a fight,you can expect a fight again),even better.
As i said it's not strengtht that realy matters.Sure it's better to be strong,but it's more important not to be a coward I've seen really big people,grovel to a lot shorter people,because they ''didn't want any trouble'' a.k.a. being too scared to stand up.Cowards.
Once they see from what you're made of:You got their anger or their respect.It's mostly the first one.Both suits you just fine.I speak this from personal experience.I used to get in fights a lot when i was like 15,16,17......I beaten others,and I was beaten too

My pride is priceles to me.I agree that you can try to talk your way out of a fight,but do it with dignity.Offcourse this is the way i was thought my whole life,living in a conservative country,and maybe groveling is the better solution,but it's unacceptable for me.

Knife?What did you do if your oponent has a knife?I hate those knife carrying *peeeep*!


Anyway,i never was afraind of the law suit,because in my country such thing as personal assault is very hard to win.If you beat the hell out of somebody,i think you can only get a few days of prison.I hear thet here in Nederland people are forced to pay enormus fines for just one bruise Still,if i do anything in self-defence,it's completly legal.And that suits me just fine

Wait,you are a whiteman,and you get racial insults
Woah,seems there is a lot oof racism here in the west.

Well,were they really drunk? Just curius.

Yeah well,welcome to the Jungle!

Racism, no matter how it is portrayed in the media, is a two-way thing. Here there is a significant minority of the Asian community that is incredibly hostile to the white population, as there is a significant minority of the white population that is hostile to the Asian community. It's just that it's not trendy to think of racism as anything other than white Vs anyone else. Personally I think all racism is bloody detestable, but from my experience I have been racially assaulted and insulted and nothing is done. Everyone I know lives on edge for saying what is seen as the wrong thing, all the while just...well, taking crap because they have no choice.

Anyway, I live in a place where racial tension is high. There have been riots, and also a lot of suicide bombers and such come from this area (the London bombers are all from a ten mile radius of where I live). What you've got here is a city literally tearing itself apart because of the colour of someones skin, and their religious beliefs. And whilst I'm not saying that everyone is doing it (it's a minority), it still makes living here hell at times.

And no, the doctors weren't that drunk by all accounts, but even if they were they still saved the guys life, rather than just stand around and watch him die.

Racism is a two way thing - but not recognized as such.

If Black people want to stick together and exclusively stay with their own kind it is called Black Pride. IF Hispanics want to liive solely in their own neighborhoods and not speak English - it's called Latino Pride. The same with Asians and American Indians.

But if whites want to stick solely to their own kind, make clubs exclusively for themselves, study their own history - it is called rascism, Klu Klux Klanism, discrimination.

It is a totally unfair interpretation and system. It penalizes the celtic/anglosaxon heritage into practically not recognizing its own roots.

Rainer hates Racism of any kind, regardless.

If someone should hate another, it should be for a good reason, not for something as shallow as skin. God knows where we could be if people just realized that.

In my (former) country there is only racism towards Gipsy people........
And that's because my country doesn't have any other minority race.
They are 90% whiteman.
So,to be honest i've never met with the problem of racism.
Some of my best friends are Gipsyes,and some even have darker skin.I never looked on them through their skin,only through their actions.

This excludes a certain nation,which i would rather not discus.
Filthy vermin.

This is an excellent point of view, since it is how I feel as well...

Seriously, I thought Norwegians were mostly open-minded to other cultures until I started driving a taxi. I was a weekend/night taxi driver during the 6 years I took my education. There are a lot of 'dark-skinned' taxi drivers in our city, as I suspect there are in many western cities.

During weekends, about 50% (and I'm not exaggerating) of the passengers gave me comments like "wow, a white taxi driver!" and various follow-up rasist remarks. And during daytime when I was driving older people to and from their elderly homes I had a lot of comments like "oh, so good that you're not a negro!' and things like that...

Every time I heard that, I firmly informed the passengers that I would not tolerate such comments or have discussions on the matter in my taxi. Many weekend night passengers (read: drunk passengers) would get fired up by this and engage themselves in heavy discussions.

When I finally got a word in I would point out that most dark-skinned immigrants come here for a reason; they have to flee their own home-country because of war or poverty or other reasons they have no control over. They come here unwillingly and are eager to make a new life for themselves, and for many the taxi is the first step after going through the initial refugee-stations and language learning centers.

They are eager to get out there and make a living to provide for their families, and all they hear is racist remarks from arrogant, so-called 'anti-racist' Norwegians. How I feel for them! So instead of starting a new happy life, many go backwards and end up having to quit the job because they can't take all the insults, and end up on welfare, which is another reason Norwegians hate them so much ("they get all our tax money!" (this statement sounds particularly bad when the passengers say it while they're practically choking on kebabs after having spent 1000s of kroners getting drunk on bars and nightclubs)).

Even highly educated immigrants are having problems getting a job here, in a country where there is a high demand for workers. Managers simply won't hire them. A large part of my former immigrant colleagues had degrees in engineering for example, one of the most demanded types of workers over here (I was practically headhunted long before I finished my engineering education).

I used to be proud of being a Norwegian until I discovered how a huge part of my fellow countrymen were like. Now I'm very disappointed, and feel almost ashamed every time I see a dark-skinned immigrant.

Ok rant over. Sorry for the slight outburst. I'll go back to Oblivion now...

I think it is good to speak your mind Olav and I am glad I read your opinion.

I also hate descrimination as long as everyone else here. As a child a used to live in a appartment complex that was divided in half. One half belonged to the hispanic race and the other belonged to the african americans and there was constant fighting between them. Me being Mexican belonged to the hispanic side but I as a child had much charisma (not no more) so I had many black friends and they were not bad at all individually but when there where part of a large crowd who had problems with a large hispanic crowd there was going to be something going down. I loved fighting and it all looked like a game to me until my good friend Jessie (aka el gordo) got stabbed and then everything got out of control. People breaking into others homes and people (both hispanics and blacks) got hurt daily. I soon stoped caring about race so now I only throw it down when someone talks s*** about my personal life or family.

P.S. Now that I looked back I never lost a fight except one. I guess I am a excellent fighter. And by the way when I did get beat I went down fighting and gave those punks a reason to fear me since in the struggle between my friend Mosses, me , Joel, Javier vs all this other dudes (we where outnumbered) we managed to crack some skulls and crush some bones (if you know what I mean!)or so I heard.

Mazelure,

Thanks for your support, and what you have experienced seems like taken from a movie from my point of view! People getting stabbed, fighting on a regular basis...

I must admit that I've never been involved in a one-on-one fight in my entire life (and I'm 36), but I think that's mainly because of my diplomatic nature, which was also very useful when driving a taxi. Several times I was certain I was going to get beaten up and even killed by desperate junkies or manically depressed drunkards, but I always managed to calm them down, and they basically ended up hugging me 'for being so nice and understanding' (maybe I should have been a psychologist... )

Anyway I understand that the issues we're experiencing in this country far up north is nothing compared to a continent that has been the 'home' for slavery and racism practically long before Norwegians moved out of caves...

Do we have to stick to racism or could I change topic??

My grandmother died today.

Oh man, sorry Konrad. You have my deepest sympathies mate, I've lost lots of loved ones but the ones your close to hurt the worst.

only person i've spoken to who has died in my life time is my friend's dad.... guess i'm lucky.

sorry bout your grandma konrad, were you close?

Rainer as well.

Rainer's friend's father knew Rainer's father since before Rainer's father met Rainer's mother.

After a plane accident in Northern Alberta, (killing a School teacher as well) he drowned because the Plane was landing on the water and suddenly flipped. The whole thing was in the newspapers for a while.

After Rainer found out, he went an entire schoolday without talking to anyone. However, there was a very nast girl in Rainer's Class that was tesating Rainer about it!

Rainer ignored her for a while, then he turned around and slapped her once he could bear no more.

All this happened in Grade 8 (Rainer is in grade 10 now)

Yeah, close enough for it to hurt a lot inside.

But I had seen it coming for a few days now so that eased it slightly...

Ouch, my good man, let us not go to that bloody, sad place again... People should not be judged for their race, nation or religion - only by their actions. That is why I don't hate people because of all these things... I hate them if they act like a**holes and deserve to be hated (like good ol' Sloba, God stomp his soul).


Poor guy Once I get to enter this thing you call "Coffee Shop" and I'm greeted by sadness. Damn. I myself have been to a funeral yesterday. My aunt (father's sister) had finaly died, after year and a half of torment. Parkinson's disease... but hey, should I mourn and be sad beyond myself ? Hell no, she has suffered so much that this comes as a deliverance to her. I honestly believe that she's in a better place right now, although I don't and can't know that for sure. It's the living that have to cope with their sorrows.

p.s.: Konrad, please accept my condolences.

o im really sorry konradude, here i don't think it will help but have some
but to change the subject, i just read the news thing at the homepage. that is so stupid. and i bet the kid who made the topless mod was a kid with no life. i'm not flaming though.

"edit" and oh yes i would like to add, catfights are the best. but never throw water onto the two girls that are fighting. i learned that the hard way.

Aww that is sad Konrad! May your grandma rest in peace.....

And milanius.....I´m sorry, funerals are just so depressive!

Sorry to hear that, and I'm sorry for posting such a long and trivial post about racism, although I feel it is still quite important in our society.

My father died when I was 16, and I still feel guilty somehow for not mourning him more than I should have (my parents were divorced, so I visited him every two weeks in another city. I hated the traveling).

My grandmother is about 82 now and close to her grave, I'm sad to say. I haven't visited her very often during the last few years, but your post made me feel guilty about that, and I'll take the time to visit more often.

My condolences to you!

My condolances also go's to you konradude.
And before we put a end to racism let me clarify what I said earlier .
There was not stabbings daily because when I live in Spring Branch I only witness one and heard about two others. But there was fist fighting daily.

Alrighty then lets move on to the future shall we!
Now who other than me LOVES HEAVY METAL!!!

And by the way Olav if you happen to get in a fight while Heavy Metal is on you will soon be sourrounded by uncoscious foes on the floor...muahahahah!
You have my word as I love heavy metal and know about this things.

Kudos Heavy Metal... Kudos

Thank you to everyone - your kind words hlep a lot and it is nice to know there are people in the world who care.

Now, heavy metal! Awesome stuff in my opinion. I'm pretty much into mainstream heavy metal, not obscure ones that everyone seems to branch off into. I love the sense of energy to it.

Hell Yeah!! I am not the only metal head around!!

By the way System of a Down is not considered metal... well at least I dont count it as heavy metal... muahahahaha!!

Kudos Konradude... Kudos

I feel like giving a few cents on the racism topic.

I think the United States is probably one of the most tolerant places on the planet, more than North Europe, or anywhere in Africa or South America, and especially France.

Now, before people dog my throat, here's why, the United States constantly gets compassion for beating immigrants and doing racist things. Here, if you act racist, everybody knows about it, here it's a very real thing, people watch out for it, people expect it, people know it's here.

Racism, and prejudice in general is something all humans are equally capable of, no matter where they're born, if the circumstances give them a reason to have prejudice without understanding to core cause of the problem. (Example: In the US many people complain about immigrants coming from Mexico and other palces in South America, but don't even begin to comprehend why they left, because they had absolutely no options in the country they came from. The same thing is going on with Pacific Islanders and New Zealand, and white New Zealanders give them the exact same racism.)

So, here's my point, many people think of France as being all tolerant and such, but once the riots broke out their little secret they broomed under the carpet was revealed, their just as guilty of economic racism as the US. At least here, it's well known, people already got the crap beat out of them before, and knew the story.

I both respect and agree with your opinion DoomedOne but common man we where barely getting out of racism. I dont think its a subject to be ignored but lets move on for the sake of Konradude and me as well. We all know that racism is not a pretty thing but I feel like congratulate you as well for throwing that out in the open so

Kudos DoomedOne...Kudos


Now please lets move on to somthing joyful you know. Life is to short for us to waste it in misery so lets take out our good skooma pipes and come on with the good times ahead!!!

Metal kicks boat, whats your favorite metal band, mine is Megadeth. Anyway it's almost time to be shuttin dis' coffee shop down dontcha think?