We in the building thread have decided that for some hidden elements of the library, the password will be in the form of a riddle. Now I thought this would be a good way to get new riddles and have some fun too. My first five; see if you can figure them out and tell me if they are too easy.

Blade without pommel, hilt, or edge.
Warriors trample,
Alchemists prize.
Enormous in number, not size.

Has legs but does not walk,
has a back without a spine.
sometimes wood, sometimes stone,
often arranged in a line.

It burns without fire,
lights without heat.
Ever rising, ever lowering,
the perfect lamp ever designed.

Weapons like daggers,
armor like mail.
Your death is its breath,
but on a beach it will die.

lowers mountains, widens streams, destroys towns.
no wall can stop it, no man can dodge it.
It waits on no one, but slows for those expectant.



please feel free to contribute.

I've worked out number four. But I must say, last time that it was presented to a group of people, no-one managed to work out what it was, so it must be hard.

I have a contribution:

From the beginning of eternity,
To the end of time and space,
To the beginning of every end,
And the end of every place...

I think it may be a little too easy though.

Ok, I guess I'll add the ones I was working on a few days ago. By the way, I made these, so don't think you'll get the answers so soon.

His beauty shines bright,
and then it darkens.
A line divides him,
but shows history.

Smart you must be,
to kill with me.
Thoughtful you must be,
to wield my power.

The tiles of the floor make a picture of a bear.
An Imperial hidden among letters and words. Follow closely.
First the fourth and fifth, then the thirty-fourth, then the thirty-fifth, followed by the thirty-seventh.

Inside of us it lives.
A wepon, even a sealent for the re-living.
It can help or hurt your beautiful life.
The masters can find infanite life.

Dancing over the melting base,
I hurt those who would dare dance with me.

You lose, I gain.
You drop, I bring you up.
You die, you live.
I am the cause of these and more,
What am I?

I hope I don't sound stupid but I can't figure any of those out, but I just thought of one if one of you wanted it,


We work all day, with nothing to say,
We never do trouble or our work will double,
With beastly powers we work for hours,
Mining, Farming, Attending,
We are the silent servers of the world,
But we are paid by none but our own hopes and dreams,
Who are we?


Maybe a beginning of an easy riddle, you guys could mess with it, I'm going to see if I can figure some of yours out....

1. Magical Scrolls or Staves..

2. Chairs

3. This one is hard, I would guess hope...

4. Dreugh , but you should change it to "but on a beach brings it's death" as it would rhyme and sound better, or at least have it end with death

5. Rain






These are extremely hard but I have two possible answers,

4. Love
5. Fire

wrong
right
wrong
wrong, but close
wrong

vaanic~one's is the letter E, I think.

I think four is slaughter fish and 5 is time.

and you woud be right. so, anyone have ideas on one and three?

Ohh OHh!! 3. is the moon!


Edit: Maybe #1 is words? Intelligence?

Edit2: Vaanic that's a very clever one, I wouldn't have thought of that



At the beginning of every start,
and at the end of every class ,
triple the power of it in sadness ,
you shall find me.

again wurlon, very close, but no for number 3.

1. nobody has gotten this? I thought it was the easiest one.

the letter 'S' for yours. It's very well done though.

This is too friggin' hard,
1. Grass
3. Nightvision, Flashlight, Reflections, Water, Stars, Sun, Glowsticks, Fireflys,

got number one, and the answer for 3 is in the list.

3. It's the sun but that does heat and burn, so I would say fireflys too... so confused...

yes it is the sun. ALthough I might just reword the third line to make it fireflies, I like that answer better.

Well the confusing part is the sun DOES burn so everyone would rule fire and the sun out, or at least that's my view...

that rules out the sun, as it does burn and it is lights with heat, or ar you suggesting that the increase in heat during the day is caused by timed outburst of molecular movement.

My Contribution:

Green-eye had a problem, he had two irregular shaped containers, one would fill five gallons, and the other three. The problem was, he needed four gallons. Because the two containers are irregular, he cannot simply pour out any particular measurement, so how will Green-Eye get 4 gallons?

The answer: Pour three gallons into the three gallon container, then pour that three into the five gallon container so that it has three gallons. Refill the Three gallon container and pour it into the five gallon container until it's full, this will give you one gallon in the three gallon container. Pout the five gallon container out, then pour in the one gallon from the three gallon container, refill it and pour in the remaining three gallons so that you have four gallons.

while the sun does make heat, I was thinking sunburn, a burn without fire, and the sunlight, which does not produce heat like other forms of illumination. Just my thoughts when I was making the riddle.

Why did you give us the answer? It doesn't matter anyway, as those are very easy unless your skilled and make it tricky :evil:

1. Imperial (troops)?
2. A stool?
3. The Sun?
4. A fish
5. Time

I got the last two because they sound oddily familier... Do I sense a hint of Tolkien? Of course, I could be completely wrong... And it could be written by a different author.

Hmm... Die Hard with a Vengeance I believe is the film that riddle appeared in... and it's a good one too... maybe the builders of the mod could somehow make an interactive riddle, where you would have to place exactly four [insert Tamrielic weight measurement here] onto a pressure plate in order to open the secret area... Pretty sure it would be near impossible to do in game, but now that we have those 'mini-games' for things like lock picking, maybe we can also create our own with the CS...

I don't remember that riddle from die hard with a vengeance. I had to answer this question in science.

It would be a nice puzzle to solve to get into a secret room. If the game reigsters weight then just have two vases of different sizes, a platform with a water-hose hanging above it that you can switch on and off so you place a vase under a water hose, turn it on to fill it, turn it off, move the vase, take the other one, and then just figured out how to make one pour into the other.

Yeah, might be a hard to implement that in OB, we'll just have to see.

Another idea for the secret room would be to take the winning book and place it at the foot of a water fountain or something, and a the room would open somewherez... I just thought of resident evil and this came up, the first three had some really interesting ways to get places...

How about if you pick up a certain book, it triggers the door to the secret room to open.

there was a book I read that to get into a secret passage you had to pull five books in the right order...

Are you going to make this hard? I'm liking it... or maybe if you took the contents of four potted plants in the library, used a scripted mortar and pestol to create a unique ingredient "Book Wax" or something place it inside a scripted book or something..

oh of course it'll be hard. That's the purpose of puzzles and riddles.

But these riddles are easy if you can see possible answers, will it be choice or you have to type the answer in?

well, I doubt that the oblivion engine will be able to handle a typed answer, but if I have to make choices, I will put at least fifty on there.

To techicallly (sp) there's a 2% chance of getting it right if you don' have any idea whatsoever.

technically, yes. I might have it so that a wrong answer closes the secret permanently.

Who doesn't love the save button now. But I think that's a bit harsh, we need execrutiating pain too. Make it so a big fat poisonspell goes onto the person

Yes, but we might as well add in a written riddle too. A hidden peice of paper has the directions on it (which books to pull and in which order). This might also be a good way as to incorporate some Morrowind books in...

Here in our library lies a secret stone,
Only moved when books are shown.
One by one they must be bound,
In synchronizing order they must be found.

To begin, a book entitled with a 36,
Lessons written by a total Nix.

Second comes a book on the Til list,
At the very bottom, it's floating as a writs.

Third is written for research,
War magic is like a church.

If you found out my riddle,
And found the right book,
Do not hesitate, nor twiddle.
For adventure awaits, even if you're a crook!

Uh.. ya...

I tried my best. See if you can figure it out...

P.S. I changed it to three books; couldn't think of any more ryhmes.

good idea. Af course, none of them will be EXACTLY as what your ideas are, so even you guys get to figure them out.

Pfft! Unlikely! I won't have the computer version of Oblivion, so I won't be able to download the mod when we are finished.

that's gotta stink.

occasionaly I get into enourmous spurts of productive work. Today was one of those times, kranked these riddles out in fifteen minutes;

two white spheres in two sinkholes,
roaming, rolling, middle like coals.
Ringed by water, earth, or green,
when asleep dissappear and can't be seen.


clear as crystal or red as blood,
sometimes a poison, othertimes fine,
I have many tastes, though alone I've none,
Naturally I never a straight line run.


easily I rip and easily I rend,
fire my bane and ink my friend.
I hold the history of ages past,
but leave meoutside and I shall not last


sharp as a sword yet brittle as clay
sometimes opaque sometimes clear as day
you won't wish to eat me, for I'll cut you up right
use me instead to improve your eyesight


I'm twice in the palace
also twice apart.
not much into fighting
but armor let's me start.
I'm in the caves and in the rains,
as well as shade and lakes.


I have rings you cannot wear,
and grain you cannot eat.
I stand forever,
falling when I die.

1) Er... the two moons? (Io and Exidor?) I made that second one up...
2) Wine
3) Paper or parchment
4) Glass
5) A
6) Truth?

1)no
2)no
3)yes
4)yes
5)yes
6)no

go two of the hardest though.

6. Trees

right.

1. Eyes

right again, only one left now.

I solved this a different way:
Fill the 5 gal container and pour 3 gal into the 3 gal container leaving 2 gal in the 5 gal container. Empty the 3 gal container and pour the 2 gal from the 5 gal container into the 3 gal container. Refill the 5 gal container and pour 1 gal into the 3 gal container leaving 4 gal in the 5 gal container.

thats me from worlons topic ok hope i could help.

any1 going to answer?

Blade without pommel, hilt, or edge.
Warriors trample,
Alchemists prize.
Enormous in number, not size.

Has legs but does not walk,
has a back without a spine.
sometimes wood, sometimes stone,
often arranged in a line.

It burns without fire,
lights without heat.
Ever rising, ever lowering,
the perfect lamp ever designed.

Weapons like daggers,
armor like mail.
Your death is its breath,
but on a beach it will die.

lowers mountains, widens streams, destroys towns.
no wall can stop it, no man can dodge it.
It waits on no one, but slows for those expectant.

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1:Grass
2:Chair
3:?
4: Dreugh
5:Rain

It took me a while to figure these out there pretty good

Ah, good ones!

let's see. I'm not sure about number three, but I go for the moon or the stars. They both burn without fire. (ok, stars do, but they're awfully far away.)
And they light without heat. (right, stars do provide heat, but there isn't much left when it gets here)
And the rising and falling would refer to the movement they make across the sky through night.

yeah, it's the sun. The rest of the thread has all the answers (or at least 98% of them).

Rainer thinks that maybe this one might do:

I mimic everything you do
Throughout the day, I grow taller.
As night descends, I die.

What am I?