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Veltan
I have the Xbox version, and I feel right at home playing it with the xbox's controller. I went over to my friend's house, and I played his Morrowind on his computer (he has the com and xbox versions, lucky) and I was so frustrated about how awkward it was! I was wondering if anyone has experienced PC vs Xbox problems like this?
MerGirl
Awkward? Like how? If you mean controls, I can understand. :ashamed: Besides that, I don't see how it is more awkward than the X-Box... (I have both X-Box and PC versions).
gamer10
You should see how many of these threads we get on the official forums.

Anyway, PC is my preference because of the large amount of buttons/keys to assign spells and such too.
Veltan
Yes, I was reffering to the controls. I just like the feeling of holding the controller in your hand, and I found it very uncomfortable stretching my hands across the keyboard trying to reach all the buttons.
I remember that I was so uncoordinate with the controls that I wandered out to Pelagiad and got killed by a rat lol.
Zelda_Zealot
Well it is just a matter of getting used to the controls, I had trouble with the X-Box and the PC controls. It is hard to deside on which I like more though...
Chumbaniya
*chanting* PC! PC! PC! PC!

I don't have an Xbox anyway so it's a moot point, but I don't think console gaming suits slower paced RPGs like the Elder Scrolls as well as the PC does. You're going to need more than just the (insert number of keys on an Xbox controller) buttons you get on an Xbox controller to configure all of the games spells and abilities, plus I love my keyboard anyway.
Wolfie
I have it one XBox, but i'm going to try and convince my mam to buy it for me for pc soon
Zelda_Zealot
[quote=Chumbaniya]*chanting* PC! PC! PC! PC!

I don't have an Xbox anyway so it's a moot point, but I don't think console gaming suits slower paced RPGs like the Elder Scrolls as well as the PC does. You're going to need more than just the (insert number of keys on an Xbox controller) buttons you get on an Xbox controller to configure all of the games spells and abilities, plus I love my keyboard anyway.[/quote]

Well they got the controls onto the X-Box pretty good. I like them, its a bit easier to do somethings, like alchemy.
Veltan
I agree with Zelda_Zealot, Bethesda did a good job of transferring the controls to Xbox. I hope they do the same with Oblivion, but they should be able to. smile.gif
Zelda_Zealot
It should work, after all they do have two more buttens. And I dont see how the controls could be much differant.
MerGirl
Oh, okay. Well, there is the way to cutomize the buttons to your liking. But, I get what you're saying. smile.gif

But, I also like how the X-Box controller buttons feel so... comfy compared to the computer buttons. But, I feel more controlled with the PC... It's really hard to decide, really.

In my opinion:

Pro of X-Box : It's alot easier to take stuff out of your inventory! tongue.gif And it's more easier to do stuff...

Con of X-Box and PC: Holding down/pressing the sneak button is sooooo annoying! tongue.gif

Con of PC: Too awkward and aiming for/at stuff is a bit difficult at times...

Con of X-Box: Too few buttons (I need my quickie-hot-keys!)
Konji
Where's the pro of PC?!
Zelda_Zealot
One word. Plugins. Good enough pro?
Konji
Yeah yeah...does anyone else get loads of errors that ask if yes or no as they are loading the morrowind master file, if they have mods on? I do...
Zelda_Zealot
Well either the plugins dont have the nessecery master files, or they are made poorly and have an item with no inventory image for example. So check that, then ask again it I am wrong.
MerGirl
[quote=Konradude]Yeah yeah...does anyone else get loads of errors that ask if yes or no as they are loading the morrowind master file, if they have mods on? I do...[/quote]

Yup. That's what you should expect from some mods. Or whenever you disable a mod after saving a data file that had that mod activated.

Also, I get that annoying 'error masterfile' comment whenever I boot up Morrowind on the PC. (That's because I had installed Morrowind long before any of the expansion packs came out. I had a few mods BEFORE installing the expansion packs, that's why I'm getting those errors.)

Oh.

PC Pro: MODS! biggrin.gif

However, the more mods you add in...

PC Con: Lots of crashing (and sometimes really, really slow loading time and/or frame stuttering)! sad.gif

X-Box Con: SLOW loading times
Zelda_Zealot
The loading times for PC depend apon your computer, for me they are done in a second. However the X-Box is like a sloth. Sssssssssssssssllllllllllllllllloooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwww.
Khaan
[quote]The loading times for PC depend apon your computer, for me they are done in a second. However the X-Box is like a sloth. Sssssssssssssssllllllllllllllllloooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwww.[/quote]

Have you seen the specs of the xbox 360 :shocked: :eek:

(Looks at specs sadly as my pc will never be that good.)

I'll be sticking to my Pc though as I dislike... no HATE consoles. biggrin.gif
Konji
According to the hypeinator the PS2 has doule the terraflops of the XBOX. Bow in awe.
Zelda_Zealot
[quote=Khaan]
Have you seen the specs of the xbox 360 :shocked: :eek:

(Looks at specs sadly as my pc will never be that good.)

I'll be sticking to my Pc though as I dislike... no HATE consoles. biggrin.gif[/quote]

Why do you hate consoleS/
Veltan
don't hate them because they're beautiful, hate them because they're slow... and easier... and no mods... and, well, the Xbox (and 360) are beautiful. smile.gif
Zelda_Zealot
Here here! He does have a good point after all.
Mazuk
Nah Everyone has there own opinions.
Khaan
[quote]Why do you hate consoleS/[/quote]

I hate them because they are so hard to controll, even when you are used to playing on one.

E.g. you come round a corner and instead of aiming at somebody, you run around madly trying to get them into your sights.

You can't move the crosshair with enough accuracy.
Zelda_Zealot
Once you learn how to it is easly mastered, how else do you think people play Halo?
9of9
In reply to MerGirl a while back:

I can never ever understand how anyone could possibly find an analogue stick easier for aiming than a mouse. It baffles me. Considering the precision required in Morrowind to pick up such a simple object as a fork, I would have thought the task, while not the easiest on the PC would be nigh on impossible with the XBox controller :shocked:

Apart from that though I - and I suspect many others - only hate consoles because I don't have one tongue.gif
Zelda_Zealot
Well once you get used to the sensitiveity it is quite easy to pick up something. Since it is pressure sensitive you can control about as easy as the PC.
Mazuk
I have a most all consoles. Well except xbox just because i never got around to buying it. But I have seen my friends play it on xbox and would still prefer PC over any of the xbox's.. Now I just Have to update my pc is all not big deal. Well not really just need a new processor. I just want more out of it.
MerGirl
[quote=9of9]In reply to MerGirl a while back:

I can never ever understand how anyone could possibly find an analogue stick easier for aiming than a mouse. It baffles me. Considering the precision required in Morrowind to pick up such a simple object as a fork, I would have thought the task, while not the easiest on the PC would be nigh on impossible with the XBox controller :shocked:

Apart from that though I - and I suspect many others - only hate consoles because I don't have one tongue.gif[/quote]

No, I was thinking more of the moving around was easier to control on the X-Box (aiming is another story). Also, when you want to drop something on the floor out of your inventory really, really, really quick (like that expensive platter in that room where you register your class,etc), you can press one button on the X-Box, and it drops it automatically.

Anyway, I thought the PC controls were... too spread out for me. I mean, just for walking forward, to the side, and back. Then, there's the Spell button and the Weapon button, which I often confused them with the directional buttons. (I'm trying to change the button scheme, but I've gotten so used to the old, awkward one, I get confuzzled alot.)

FYI anyone wants to know I have X-Box, GameCube, PS2, PC, as well as 2 GameBoy Advances and a GBA SP. (Most of my family are casual, but enthusiastic gamers.)
Wolfie
Hehe, i convinced my mam to buy me GOTY for PC today, so in a couple of weeks i'll have it for both PC and XBox biggrin.gif
Chumbaniya
I know it doesn't apply to The Elder Scrolls, but I've always hated shooters on consoles. It's beyond me how anyone can aim with any accuracy without that most marvellous of thingies, the mouse. Having a mosue is also handy when it comes to movement in first person games. The ability to point in exactly the right direction with the mouse, and then go forwards/backwards/strafe is something I'd find hard on a console.
Wolfie
Yeah, FPS games are way better on PC. Analogue sticks aren't versatile enough to aim properly like a mouse can
Veltan
Does anyone here really aim in Morrowind?
Also, I really only have trouble picking something up if it's something small like a fork or knife. But I really hate the ring in the pond quest, because it's really hard to get it precise.
Zelda_Zealot
I never even found the ring, so consider your self lucky.
Wolfie
I've never found that ring. I just kill the woman and her friend, since you have to do it either way
Zelda_Zealot
Oh, well its more fun to do the quest.
MerGirl
[quote=LoneWolf]I've never found that ring. I just kill the woman and her friend, since you have to do it either way[/quote]

:rofl: Me too (in terms of not finding the ring and then killing the lady and that other guy)! I got so bored looking for a ring that just wasn't there. (Unless the ring is invisible or something, and I just didn't notice).

To Veltan: That's what I meant by aiming: Trying to aim the camera towards the item in order to pick it up in the first place.
Dantrag
[quote=MerGirl][quote=LoneWolf]I've never found that ring. I just kill the woman and her friend, since you have to do it either way[/quote]

:rofl: Me too (in terms of not finding the ring and then killing the lady and that other guy)! I got so bored looking for a ring that just wasn't there. (Unless the ring is invisible or something, and I just didn't notice).

To Veltan: That's what I meant by aiming: Trying to aim the camera towards the item in order to pick it up in the first place.[/quote]

I always look for the ring...and every time it take forever...I just cant ever remember where it is.
Mazuk
To find that ring it is best to use the Night Eye spell I think it is called or something like that. It helps to see in the pond and you will find the ring pretty fast.
MerGirl
[quote=Mazuk]To find that ring it is best to use the Night Eye spell I think it is called or something like that. It helps to see in the pond and you will find the ring pretty fast.[/quote]

....
....
... You're kidding me. You've got to be kidding me. :shocked: Oh, my gosh! All it requires is a spell which I have never used nor needed in the game, like, ever?! :eek:

Note to self: Never play a non-mage character for certain quests.
Another Note to Self: Why didn't that darn lady tell me this?
Zarrexaij
[quote=Veltan]Does anyone here really aim in Morrowind?
Also, I really only have trouble picking something up if it's something small like a fork or knife. But I really hate the ring in the pond quest, because it's really hard to get it precise.[/quote]Yessss. :eek:

I have trouble picking up similar small objects with the Xbox, aka the Trojan Horse. :paperbag2:

I found that ring by pure chance. :shocked: That's the scary part.
Mazuk
Actually it is a potion. I have like 4 of them. I will look for the name and post it for those that would like to know. Makes it easier to find.
MerGirl
[quote=Mazuk]Actually it is a potion. I have like 4 of them. I will look for the name and post it for those that would like to know. Makes it easier to find.[/quote]

Well, okay. A potion I never used nor needed for survival so far. :ashamed: My non-mage character only uses health and fatigue potions, and maybe some levitation/feather, waterwalking/breathing (she has a fear of water), fortify strength, invisibility (she's an assassin) and shield potions.

That's it. I never really had to resort to using nighteyes vision (I thought that was used like a torch?) for any quests so far.
Mazuk
To be honest that is the only time I have ever used it. I was tired of looking.. lol.
MerGirl
[quote=Mazuk]To be honest that is the only time I have ever used it. I was tired of looking.. lol.[/quote]

Well, you found the solution, and I'm proud of you! *claps*

Me? I just get frustrated and kill the quest giver or lose him/her on those 'escorting to Molag-whatever-it's-called' and move on with my questing life. tongue.gif

*looks at all unfinished quests in Journal* Hmmm... It seems I have been going on a bit of killing spree lately... wink.gif
Mazuk
lol I have done that.
MerGirl
Yeah, I think some people have gone a killing spree or two... tongue.gif

Oooh, ooh. Speaking of killing sprees and NPC's:

PC Pro: Console (and TES construction set)! Tee hee! biggrin.gif For 'cheats' (*coughs* I mean, testing Mods), resetting NPC's out of your way, moving yourself out of stuck places, and, best of all, reviving important/quest NPC's. Yay for killing sprees! biggrin.gif *does a little dance*
Dantrag
[quote=MerGirl]Yeah, I think some people have gone a killing spree or two... tongue.gif

Oooh, ooh. Speaking of killing sprees and NPC's:

PC Pro: Console (and TES construction set)! Tee hee! biggrin.gif For 'cheats' (*coughs* I mean, testing Mods), resetting NPC's out of your way, moving yourself out of stuck places, and, best of all, reviving important/quest NPC's. Yay for killing sprees! biggrin.gif *does a little dance*[/quote]

I just save before I go on kiling sprees and load afterwards....
Mazuk
Yeah I have done that to because I normally end up getting kille from to many gaurds attacking me.
Zelda_Zealot
[quote=Mazuk]Yeah I have done that to because I normally end up getting kille from to many gaurds attacking me.[/quote] I wish that could happen to me, my character is so powerful I would never die. Even when fighting 12 Ordonaters. Invincibility sucks, good thing I dont play PC that much or I would have 100000 strength, not that one of my characters doesnt anyway wink.gif (On X-Box) . Point to X-Box.
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