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SubRosa
I have been playing Skyrim for two days now, and I keep seeing so many things from Fallout 3. I keep wondering if a Brotherhood of Steel Paladin is going to step around the corner toting a gatling laser.

The drumroll and screen text for quests is a straight copy, with nothing at all changed in the slightest.

The whole system of Perks is clearly FO3 inspired (I just wish they had an Animal Friend perk, to keep those Spriggans from attacking)

Eating food heals damage (though thankfully none of it is radioactive in Skyrim).

The lockpicking mini-game is exactly the same, just different graphics. They removed the option to force it open though.

The Thalmor/Dark Brotherhood/Thugs attacking you at random, and you find a contract on them for your murder, is a straight copy of the Talon Company.

On top of these obvious things, there has been a less direct feeling I have been getting as I play that again takes me back to the Capital Wasteland. It is not something I can directly point to. It might be the voice acting (I have not checked, but some sound the same), it might be the artwork of the NPCs faces.

I think a lot of is to do with the general mood and atmosphere the game generates. I think there is a grittiness that Skyrim shares with FO3, which Oblivion lacks. I know that when I go through bandit and vampire lairs, I am getting strong flashes of FO3's raider bases. The Skyrim baddies just seem much eviler then the Oblivion ones.

So is it just me, or do other people get this feeling too?
Fawkes
You're not the only one, all of the Skyrim atmosphere as you said is very gritty, Oblivion was way different, Skyrim does feel exactly like Fallout, I enjoy both like crazy though.

I think its the fact that Oblivion has a more....I don't know how to put it, relaxed? Landscape and feel, while In Skyrim the landscape is extremely inhospitable, also Oblivion had a more of a Monty Python feel, were Skyrim takes it self very seriously.

I don't know, might just be me :/
King Coin
I see similarities, but I don't feel like I'm in the Capital Wasteland. The strongest Fallout 3 feeling I get is when I fight the draugr. They remind me so much of the feral ghouls.
mALX
QUOTE(SubRosa @ Jan 30 2012, 09:46 PM) *

I have been playing Skyrim for two days now, and I keep seeing so many things from Fallout 3. I keep wondering if a Brotherhood of Steel Paladin is going to step around the corner toting a gatling laser.

The drumroll and screen text for quests is a straight copy, with nothing at all changed in the slightest.

The whole system of Perks is clearly FO3 inspired (I just wish they had an Animal Friend perk, to keep those Spriggans from attacking)

Eating food heals damage (though thankfully none of it is radioactive in Skyrim).

The lockpicking mini-game is exactly the same, just different graphics.

The Thalmor/Dark Brotherhood/Thugs attacking you at random, and you find a contract on them for your murder, is a straight copy of the Talon Company.

On top of these obvious things, there has been a less direct feeling I have been getting as I play that again takes me back to the Capital Wasteland. It is not something I can directly point to. It might be the voice acting (I have not checked, but some sound the same), it might be the artwork of the NPCs faces.

I think a lot of is to do with the general mood and atmosphere the game generates. I think there is a grittiness that Skyrim shares with FO3, which Oblivion lacks. I know that when I go through bandit and vampire lairs, I am getting strong flashes of FO3's raider bases. The Skyrim baddies just seem much eviler then the Oblivion ones.

So is it just me, or do other people get this feeling too?



There is actually a huge diff between Fallout 3 and Skyrim. In Fallout 3, everything worked like it was supposed to. (perks, quests, etc. )
King Coin
QUOTE(mALX @ Jan 30 2012, 09:27 PM) *

There is actually a huge diff between Fallout 3 and Skyrim. In Fallout 3, everything worked like it was supposed to. (perks, quests, etc. )

I don't remember FO3 having as many issues as Skyrim does. New Vegas on the other hand...
Fawkes
QUOTE(mALX @ Jan 30 2012, 09:27 PM) *



There is actually a huge diff between Fallout 3 and Skyrim. In Fallout 3, everything worked like it was supposed to. (perks, quests, etc. )


Unless you're on the PS3, They both don't work biggrin.gif
mALX
QUOTE(King Coin @ Jan 30 2012, 10:34 PM) *

QUOTE(mALX @ Jan 30 2012, 09:27 PM) *

There is actually a huge diff between Fallout 3 and Skyrim. In Fallout 3, everything worked like it was supposed to. (perks, quests, etc. )

I don't remember FO3 having as many issues as Skyrim does. New Vegas on the other hand...



Agreed, but the perks in New Vegas worked properly. So far numerous perks in Skyrim have actually been found to work exactly the opposite of their intended purpose, and they end up being a detriment to the player's game and a waste of a used perk. There are so many examples of this that I've been afraid to take any perk.

Add in the miscalculations in sneak, where the higher your sneak stats/the easier you are detected (30 sneak is less detected than 100 sneak)

Add in that any potion meant to increase pickpocketing chances ends up increasing chance of getting caught instead.

Someone on the team miscalculated a LOT of things in Skyrim. I doubt very much it was our known beloved devs, maybe they have hired in someone that messed all these things up.
SubRosa
I came across the some other things that remind me of FO3.

People turning into piles of ash when you kill them (I did not realize Scylla had a Plasma Axe).

The cages that vampires have in their lairs look a lot like those the raiders used in FO3.

Wandering Stormcloak patrols = Outcast patrols. At least the Stormcloaks are not insulting though.

Skyrim seems to have random encounters much like FO3 had. I just met the Old Orc who wants you to kill him (exactly like Umbra in Morrowind). When I looked it up, I found that he can pop up anywhere in Skyrim.

The hunters you can meet while exploring are like the hunters you could meet while exploring the Capital Wasteland.

The wandering Khajiit Caravan is basically the same as the 4 traveling merchants in FO3.

Still waiting to meet the Brotherhood of Steel though...
McBadgere
Yep...Totally agree with everything everyone said...

This does just feel like Fallout...Not a bad thing per-se...Just, isn't Oblivion...Which some people will say is a good thing, but it feels wrong...Somehow...
mALX
It doesn't have the feel of TES to me at all, and feels totally out of sync with the progression of the other TES games.

I wish they had made this either :

1. A 1st Era TES game - which would have been an Awesome idea, let us go through the first two eras of the TES storyline that were written and alluded to but never touched in game.

2. Called the land something other than Tamriel/Skyrim and made this a game separate from the series - start a new series (and keep our TES games in sync with each other).


I absolutely LOVED Fallout 3, everything worked as it was meant to, and I had no expectations on content going in (hadn't played the previous Fallout series) - so I had no idea if it fit with the rest of the series or not, just knew it was an Awesome game.

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