Well, there I was just getting ready to kill Telandrial in Leyawiin during the the Purification Quest, then she suddenly decides to open up a conversation with a Guard:

G: Have you heard any news from the other provinces?

T: The Oblivion Gates have opened everywhere! Even St Jiub who drove the Cliff Racers from Vvardenfell has fallen to the Daedric Hordes!

G: Let us hope this Crisis is over soon!

Ah Ha!! So Jiub is a Saint who got rid of those annoying squakers!! At least he did not die in obscurity! So too all those threads Ive read speculating on Jiubs fate rest easy now...and no I'm not making this up. Even i have wondered what became of the first kind person I met in Morrowind.

Now then,...post your thoughts, or Azura will kill a Guar for every "thread viewed" without a response....

i hate Guars anyway... Juib ain't so nice, he woke me up just as the dream got good

You posted a spoiler. Spoilers are a big in this section. You maybe just spoiled somebody's game enjoyment.

Well, that kind of conversation can be heard form normal people everywhere. You can also hear that Nerevarine has gone to Akavir, and other news from Morrowind.

Yeah I noticed this. Its kind of a little relief I suppose. Part of me certainly wasnt happy to hear the "Nerevarine's story". Why the smeg would he go to Akavir? Still I cant blame Beth really, they saved me the trouble of whining "Where the hell is the Nerevarine? He could close these gates blindfolded with both hands tied to his british boat!". Smart move really, Im a little peeved, but I can see the sense behind it.

Maybe a part of plot for TES V?

Aha! Well I hope the cliff racers haven't flown off to somewhere where we could meet them again. I hate cliff racers!

Aren't they a beauty?

AAAARGHH!!!

Edit: Btw I see I mistyped that last post. I meant of course that I hoped the cliff races HAD flown off to some place we wouldn't meet them again...

NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guess that Jiub didn't do his job very well!!!

Oh please... no... anything but that! PLEASE! I BEG YOU! NO MORE CLIFF RACERS! JIUB SAVE ME!

*breaks down into tears and refuses to let anyone come near until the nasty cliff racers have gone*

ITs called a rumor for a reason.

The Nerevarine is out of the picture, but maybe the rumor's wrong, maybe he's dead in a ditch somewhere, or went to some other part of the Empire. Maybe he got assassinated, died fending off the the Hordes of Oblivion, etc..

There are a thousand and one ways to vanish from the public eye, and even more rumors of what happened to you.

Yeah, I see your point really but it still doesnt cover what I meant. You see the Nerevarine should be where I want him to be on MY game. The same should be said when you play your story, or anyones for that matter.

My character isnt playing in some parallel universe where he is different from the guy I played in Morrowind. So what I mean by that is, my Nerevarine in Morrowind is still the same game in my Oblivion.

My old guy wouldnt go to akavir, or be dead in a ditch, or even die facing the daedric hordes. Which led me to why they "removed" him. Because I wouldnt be asking the question "Why cant I just be the Nerevarine, my old character could have saved the emperor, avoiding this whole bloomin crisis!".

So what Im saying is that the freedom TES games give you when you play, also gives you some control. While I dont like the half arsed excuse they gave me for "removing" the Nerevarine, it is pretty practical.

Although I would have preffered something along these lines. "Rumour has it the Nerevarine has taken the fight to Oblivion itself! Some good news at last in these dark times". Gives me a little more to work with on my ex character other than being bungled of to akavir. I mean what kind of protector of Morrowind would leave in probably one of its darkest hours, eh?

ummm.. Nearly EVERY Neravine would LOVE to go to Akivir... They MAKE Deadric stuff there!!!!

AAAAAAHHHHH!!!!! CLIFF RACERS!!!!!! DEADRIC KATANA ATTACK!!!!!!!!!

Although I would have preffered something along these lines. "Rumour has it the Nerevarine has taken the fight to Oblivion itself! Some good news at last in these dark times". Gives me a little more to work with on my ex character other than being bungled of to akavir. I mean what kind of protector of Morrowind would leave in probably one of its darkest hours, eh?


I actually kinda have to agree with this....I mean my biggest dissapointment is that I can't even in part recreate my Character from Morrowind, because I used the Dark Elf Face that had the Black Hand Tattoo on his face.

(Thats where I get the Name Black Hand and NOT the Governing Body of the Dark Brotherhood. I did'nt even know about it when I first joined this site. But it's a bloody good name for them, so go figure )


And Obviously I preffered the Morag Tong's take on State-Sanctioned Murder. But oh well.

But, it's really not Morrowind's darkest hour...

Either way, you can still act as if your character in OB is the same person that was in MW. It's really not hard, nor are there inconsistencies.

I'm sure nobody would believe you if you told them that you were the Nerevarine, so why would you even bring it up?

No, sorry I knew I had worded that wrong. What I meant to say was the Nerevarine who has supposedly gone to Akavir in Oblivion, well he is still the old guy I played in Morrowind, isnt he? I didnt mean to imply my Oblivion character IS the Nerevarine.

So for example my old character in Morrowind was a Dunmer mage, hes not going to suddenly change to an Imperial warrior for the story in Oblivion. Nor would he go to akavir, because as I said, he was MY character.

I hope a made that a little clearer than I did in my last post.

Jub was my only friend.

I agree about the "off to Akavir" idea. From a roll playing standpoint, maybe 1/3 of my Morrowind chars might have went to Akavir (conquest or adventrue, whichever as part of the Roll Play concept) but most of my chars I dont see ever wanting/needing to go there.

Good point about it being a RUMOR though... that way, you are right, I can still sit happily, knowing what my MW char did, and that he did NOT go to Akavir, and all these ignorant populous know NOTHING, he he he!!

I think Beth could have added some more rumors... Rumors are supposed to be RUMORS!! Everyone should have their own version, half of them should be half true, and the rest just completely WHACKED FALSE!! In Oblivion, everyone always seemed to hear and pass on the same rumor... more like a news story than anything, and I bet those people would play a GREAT game of Telephone...

Cadaver

That looks like ghostgate... or atleast that region.

I always thought st. Jiub was a city, like Vivec or something

i recently found out all about jiub on the UESP , i was so shocked because i didnt even realise it was that dark elf guy at the start of morrowind

* minor psoiler*

he also makes a very small appearance in skyrim , the legend lives on .

Blah. Look at the BB Code help for the hide spoiler code.

It goes like spoiler /spoiler except with brackets like this around each word: [ ]

I don't mind spoilers myself, but other people might. Some people flip out over them (even if its as small as the one you put there. I've been yelled at for giving out little tiny spoilers before. Not here though, but still.)

this is the spoilers section , anybody coming here should quite reaosnably expect to get "spoiled"

Yeah. I noticed that about five minutes after I posted but was too lazy to edit my post.