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xycolian
Ok, I've done every single daedric shrine quest except for Hermaeus Mora's. The only reason that I can't do Hermaeus Mora's shrine quest is that I can't even figure out how to activate it! When I ask the people around the shrine about how to activate it, they just say "you have not yet followed the path required to speak with the lord Hermaeus Mora". I guess that the shrine doesn't activate with a simple offering, but I guess that you have to follow a certain path up to the shrine. If anybody has the guide, I would appreciate it if you told me how to activate the shrine, but not how to complete the quest that Hermaeus Mora offers once you do activate his shrine smile.gif
HyPN0
Did you try my theory?
To walk the exact path to it,without taking any shortcuts?
xycolian
QUOTE(HyPN0 @ Apr 10 2006, 03:58 PM)
Did you try my theory?
To walk the exact path to it,without taking any shortcuts?
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Yeah, I tried that but the stupid shrine still wouldn't activate. My guess is that there might be a fork in the road up to the shrine somewhere on the mountain but the shrine will only activate after choosing the right fork in the road.

Again: if anyone has the guide I would be happy if you chose to divulge it's information about Hermaeus Mora's Shrine Activation.
HyPN0
Let's try do decode this.
Here's quote from Imperial Library:

Hermaeus (or Hoermius or Hormaius or Herma) Mora, whose sphere is scrying of the tides of fate, of the past and future as read in the stars and heaven, and in whose dominion are the treasures of knowledge and memory.

Herma-Mora (The Woodland Man): Ancient Atmoran demon who, at one time, nearly seduced the Nords into becoming Aldmer. Most Ysgramor myths are about escaping the wiles of old Herma-Mora. Also called the Demon of Knowledge, he is vaguely related to the cult origins of the Morag Tong ('Foresters Guild'), if only by association with his brother/sister, Mephala. (Varieties of Faith in the Empire)

The summoning date of Hermaeus Mora is 5th of First Seed.

Hermaeus Mora is associated with artifact: Oghma Infinium.

The Oghma Infinium is a tome of knowledge written by the Ageless One, the wizard-sage Xarses. All who read the Infinium are filled with the energy of the artifact which can be manipulated to raise ones abilities to near demi-god proportions. Once used, legend has it, the Infinium will disappear from its wielder. It leaves one with 30 bonus points to distribute among the character's attributes as one wants.


Maybe the answer is here........
xycolian
hmm, that artifact seems really powerfull, maybe thats why this shrine is so hard to do?

anyhow, I found a fork in the road that leads up to the shrine and I tried both of the paths that lead up to the shrine. Needless to say they both had no effect. I'm now guessing that you may have to choose the right path and it must be on his summoning day (5th of the First Seed I guess).

EDIT: Heh, this is all too complicated for me, so I'm just gonna wait till someone who has the guide tells us how to activate it.
HyPN0
QUOTE(xycolian @ Apr 11 2006, 01:18 AM)
EDIT: Heh, this is all too complicated for me, so I'm just gonna wait till someone who has the guide tells us how to activate it.
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Damn it......
I figured he is a Daedra of Knowledge....
So maybe it means ''You haven't follow the path that Hermaeus Mora requires'' is actualy ''You haven't fallow the path of Knowledge'',whatever could that mean.....

Whis beats me,so i will be waiting too sad.gif
HyPN0
*****************************UPDATE********************************
I got the guide:

It's harder than we thought.
Here'a quote from the guide:



To get this quest you must fulfill four conditions:
1.Complete the other 14 Daedric Quests

2.Have reached ''The Blood of Daedra'' segment in the Main Quest in which you're assigned to collect a Daedric artifact.(This is designed to ensure that the player who's performed the other 14 quests and has been careless with his Daedric loot can still find an artifact available for use in the Main Quest.However,we'll tell you right now that you won't want to give this artifact away.)

3.You've reached level 21 or higher.

4.Go to sleep,it doesn't metter where
Furious_George
uesp (can't provide link while im at work) has the guide to this quest. Haven't done it myself.
IIRC, you have to be lvl 25+, done all other daedra quests, and meet a few other criteria, then get the quest from someone. Go to uesp.com and check it out.
HyPN0
QUOTE(Furious_George @ Apr 11 2006, 05:59 PM)
uesp (can't provide link while im at work) has the guide to this quest. Haven't done it myself.
IIRC, you have to be lvl 25+, done all other daedra quests, and meet a few other criteria, then get the quest from someone. Go to uesp.com and check it out.
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My guide says level 21...
Furious_George
QUOTE(HyPN0 @ Apr 11 2006, 12:36 PM)
My guide says level 21...
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I'm sure you're right....
HyPN0
QUOTE(Furious_George @ Apr 11 2006, 10:46 PM)
I'm sure you're right....
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Actualy sorry,it says 20+
Furious_George
QUOTE(HyPN0 @ Apr 11 2006, 04:53 PM)
Actualy sorry,it says 20+
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LOL laugh.gif
I KNEW it was over 20; there's another one that requires that too - Beniah's right?
HyPN0
QUOTE(Furious_George @ Apr 11 2006, 10:54 PM)
LOL  laugh.gif
I KNEW it was over 20; there's another one that requires that too - Beniah's right?
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Boethia and Clavicus Ville also require level 20 smile.gif
Furious_George
THERE we go. Boethiah.
I liked Vile's helm in MW but I don't think it's very attractive in this game when the persuade minigame is so easy.
HyPN0
QUOTE(Furious_George @ Apr 11 2006, 11:05 PM)
THERE we go. Boethiah.
I liked Vile's helm in MW but I don't think it's very attractive in this game when the persuade minigame is so easy.
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Persuading?
I have high personality but i don't persuade.Here's what i do:

You will have to be a member of Arcane University.Go to spellmaking altar.

Make a Charm spell with magnitude 100 and duration 3.Since game pauses when you talk to somebody duration doesn't metter.

To have this very useful spell you will need petty 25 Illusion.You can easyly develop that even as a minor smile.gif
xycolian
QUOTE(HyPN0 @ Apr 11 2006, 02:10 PM)
Persuading?
I have high personality but i don't persuade.Here's what i do:

You will have to be a member of Arcane University.Go to spellmaking altar.

Make a Charm spell with magnitude 100 and duration 3.Since game pauses when you talk to somebody duration doesn't metter.

To have this very useful spell you will need petty 25 Illusion.You can easyly develop that even as a minor smile.gif
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I made a charm spell that has a magnitude of 80 and a duration of 10 and it also only requires that you be level 25 in illusion tongue.gif
HyPN0
QUOTE(xycolian @ Apr 12 2006, 12:57 AM)
I made a charm spell that has a magnitude of 80 and a duration of 10 and it also only requires that you be level 25 in illusion tongue.gif
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With what purpose?
The game pauses,so even 3 seconds is too much.....
Anyway,mine requires less magicka to cast tongue.gif
xycolian
QUOTE(HyPN0 @ Apr 10 2006, 05:37 PM)
*****************************UPDATE********************************
I got the guide:

It's harder than we thought.
Here'a quote from the guide:
To get this quest you must fulfill four conditions:
1.Complete the other 14 Daedric Quests

2.Have reached ''The Blood of Daedra'' segment in the Main Quest in which you're assigned to collect a Daedric artifact.(This is designed to ensure that the player who's performed the other 14 quests and has been careless with his Daedric loot can still find an artifact available for use in the Main Quest.However,we'll tell you right now that you won't want to give this artifact away.)

3.You've reached level 21 or higher.

4.Go to sleep,it doesn't metter where
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ok, well I guess I sort of lied in my Original post; I've completed every daedric quest except for clavicus vile's (Umbra is the best sword in the game so I'm not gonna lose it just so I can complete the quest sad.gif) So i've got everything thats required for that quest except for the "finish all 14 daedric shrine quests" part.

EDIT: I can't go to uesp.com cause it says that the domain name is expired, so can someone tell me the reward of hermaeus Mora's shrine? (I wanna know if It's worth losing Umbra)
HyPN0
QUOTE(xycolian @ Apr 12 2006, 01:01 AM)
ok, well I guess I sort of lied in my Original post I've completed every daedric quest except for clavicus vile's (Umbra is the best sword in the game so I'm not gonna lose it just so I can complete the quest sad.gif) So i've got everything thats required for that quest except for the "finish all 14 daedric shrine quests" part.
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What???
Umbra is the best sword in the game blink.gif

Cammon it only gives Soultrap effect!!!
I can cast soultrap when i need it.
Anyway you can go to the shrine and tell Clavicus that deal is off.He won't be happy but you will finish the quest,and be able to start the Hermaeus Mora's quest.

EDIT:And offocurse you will keep Umbra
xycolian
QUOTE(HyPN0 @ Apr 11 2006, 04:05 PM)
What???
Umbra is the best sword in the game  blink.gif
Cammon it only gives Soultrap effect!!!
I can cast soultrap when i need it.
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It's not it's effect that makes it the best sword in the game, but it's the fact that I'm level 47, and it has the highest attack out of any sword that I've seen so far (attack is 33).

QUOTE(HyPN0 @ Apr 11 2006, 04:05 PM)
Anyway you can go to the shrine and tell Clavicus that deal is off.He won't be happy but you will finish the quest,and be able to start the Hermaeus Mora's quest.
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Ok!, Awesome!, I'll go do that right now!
HyPN0
QUOTE(xycolian @ Apr 12 2006, 01:08 AM)
It's not it's effect that makes it the best sword in the game, but it's the fact that I'm level 47, and it has the highest attack out of any sword that I've seen so far (attack is 33).
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Forgive me if i'm missing something,but if you had for example 27 damage blade enchanted with 22 Fire damage that would be 49 damage per hit,right?

49 > 33

huh.gif
xycolian
QUOTE(HyPN0 @ Apr 11 2006, 04:15 PM)
Forgive me if i'm missing something,but if you had for example 27 damage blade enchanted with 22 Fire damage that would be 49 damage per hit,right?

49 > 33

huh.gif
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You like ****Spoilergoldbrand?spoiler**** hehe Tournament of the ten bloods was fun.

Anyhow I guess you have a point, but to keep your sword at par with Umbra you'd have to keep recharging it, and that's a drag.
HyPN0
QUOTE(xycolian @ Apr 12 2006, 01:20 AM)
You like ****Spoilergoldbrand?spoiler**** hehe Tournament of the ten bloods was fun.

Anyhow I guess you have a point, but to keep your sword at par with Umbra you'd have to keep recharging it, and that's a drag.
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Yep,the tournament was cool.I even got some neat arrows there biggrin.gif

I don't mind recharging.I have Azura's Star,i allways trap souls and i'm allways full.
Furious_George
QUOTE(HyPN0 @ Apr 11 2006, 07:15 PM)
Forgive me if i'm missing something,but if you had for example 27 damage blade enchanted with 22 Fire damage that would be 49 damage per hit,right?

49 > 33

huh.gif
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I know I've said it before, but also don't forget that the best base damage longsword (which goldbrand and/or daedric longsword fit) is really the best weapon. This is because if you are an expert at sneak, you get a 6x bonus for a hit. Umbra is a two-hand weapon which doesn't get the bonus. An enchanted longsword with a sneaky and strong blade character, you can easily get [28x6] + 22 = 190+ dmg in one hit!
xycolian
QUOTE(Furious_George @ Apr 12 2006, 05:59 AM)
I know I've said it before, but also don't forget that the best base damage longsword (which goldbrand and/or daedric longsword fit) is really the best weapon. This is because if you are an expert at sneak, you get a 6x bonus for a hit. Umbra is a two-hand weapon which doesn't get the bonus. An enchanted longsword with a sneaky and strong blade character, you can easily get [28x6] + 22 = 190+ dmg in one hit!
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you get a 6 times damage bonus at the apprentice level of sneak. Umbra was a 2-handed weapon (in Morrowind anyway) but they've made it a one handed weapon in OB, and at 125% it's attack is 33 so 33x6=198 damage (plus any poisons that may have been on the blade when you struck)
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