Who, here thinks theres more to the world than we currently know? The reason I ask is that I have experienced so much that is not "normal", that I now live in quiet isolation, with my huskies and girlfreind, In the German Black forest,I have no desire to go back to a big city, or socialise on the kind of scale I used to. I deal with people on a one to one basis and thats about all I can cope with. I used to strive to change peoples perceptions of reality, to show them the mask of Society, after a while I realised that it was a mistake to do this, and as I slowly withdrew myself I began to realise that only those that ask, should be told. Im spiritual in a practical fashion, Im a humanist, and Im isolated, its not so much a sad thing, more a practical way for me to survive, people dont like it when you can see clearly who they are. Internet is interesting, because that connection isnt there, making it easier for me to communicate, and people can present facades that dont get questioned, just accepted. Being real, is not a popular past-time and I just wondered what people thought........

Thought about what? I envy your lifestyle in a way, sometimes I wish I could just run away into the Australian Outback and stay there and work on my projects, maybe work on a property or something. There is much more than we know, I know that a world without friends is nothing to me, it all comes down to what the world is to you.

You want to get deep I'm the right person to talk to, only at an early age I have experienced things that people have not experienced in a lifetime. I feel as though this has opened my eyes, many of my experiences pertaining to the individual rather than society on the whole. This has made me aware of my own feelings towards most others in that I have none for most, but strong feelings for others. There is a middle ground, but it is an uncertain and unhappy one, where none of those involved are to be trusted.

Being isolated with the one you love would be heaven I believe, although I feel I would sometimes miss the good times had with friends at wild parties and some of the crazy things we do. But maybe that's just my youth. Perhaps with age I would settle down and dream of places far away with the woman I love.

Cheers
Brood

"run away" is not what I said, maybe, "retreat" ? I think where I am now is pretty comfortable, but it is a self imposed isolation from mainstream life, from where societies beliefs are "decided", I left a capital city. Im not entirely sure myself what Im trying to discuss here, maybe the differences between mainstream societies and those that live outside of that, or try to. The way mainstream alienates alternative until it hides itself in the darkest woods? I dunno, Im definately an alternative thinker, and I have witnessed the persecution of people who have tried to live or believe in a non-mainstream kind of lifestyle, even if that "way" didnt harm anyone else, it was still persecuted. Mainstream society is not perfect, but dont you think its pretty sad that it, as a whole, goes stomping on alternatives in order to justify itself as the only way to live? Like I said, Im not sure what I want discussed here, maybe I just wanted to see how other people percieve themselves in relationship to thier society, for me, I feel alienated.

I definitely feel alienated, even if that was *only* because I'm a bit of a computer geek, just that is enough to push me out of a lot of circles, add to that that I'm homeschooled and generally very 'alternative' and I have a first class ticket out of 'mainstream' society. There is only a very restricted set of people I really socialise with now, the choice is between that and changing myself to fit with the 'normal' society, which is not something I am prepared to do. I am who I am and I intend to live as myself, if that means I live in a strawbale house powered with wind turbines and solar panels with a few rooms full of computers alone because there's nobody like me, so be it.

I may have written that with a rather depressed tone, but that's not really how I mean it

I have always felt like there is something to this existence, if we exist that is peculiar. For one, what the heck is magnetism? I mean a magically little thing that controls the universe, yet cannot be explained besides "magnetic things just seem to attract or reverse others"... and well other things too that are not on the tip of my mind right at this moment...

Im down at the moment, so that maybe why this may look like an "unhappy with it all" viewpoint, but Im actually ok, down but not unhappy. I beleive thier is more to existance, very strongly, Ive witnessed too much, and through that I have managed to be of assistance to many,many people. Now I have left all that behind to live a "normal" life, girlfreind, home, still looking for a suitable job (My backs broken) We are about as far away from society as you can get, small village in the black forest, and it is beautiful. Im very lucky. I think I feel useless, the skills I have cannot be used, people are afraid of alternative, mainstream is safe. I think people are losing the spiritual, moral awareness, in exchange for physical and material wealth, its off balance, and I think that is a sad thing. A few years ago in my grandmothers neighborhood, a freind of hers was robbed and raped, she was 85 years old, my grandma never went out at night again, never. Im sure theire is lots of reasons for the moral decay, but in our persuit for physical pleasures we have forgotten the spiritual strngth that got our nations to this point in time. Spiritual people use to have a purpose in our societies, now they dont. I think Im ranting so Ill stop now.