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chips
screenshotsthe new argonians look really weird their faces are so....... dogish. what do u think. i tried to get link but dont know how to kvright.gif


edit: ohh wait i did just go to updated xbox screens and look at the argonians.
DoomedOne
Really, reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally old news.

Bottom line is, everyone has come to accept that they're different looking now.
the-anti-neravarine
It´s only one screenshot wait for a another argonian shot then we can say if they al look like frogs


it´s ok they looked like that in Daggerfall OB is going back to the basics
Intestinal Chaos
QUOTE(DoomedOne @ Oct 10 2005, 04:10 PM)
Really, reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally old news.

Bottom line is, everyone has come to accept that they're different looking now.
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Yeah, doomedone is right. This was old news when dinosaurs roamed the Earth.
Hey and guess what! YOU CAN RIDE HORSES! But in all seriousness and not to be a boat, I did only find those pics because I was a regular on this forum tongue.gif

EDIT: Wow.... they replaced the A word (as in butt) with the word boat....

Crazy censorship.
ShogunSniper
QUOTE(Intestinal Chaos @ Oct 11 2005, 12:51 PM)

EDIT: Wow.... they replaced the A word (as in butt) with the word boat....

Crazy censorship.
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you just now figured that out? they replaced hamster with hamster and honoured user with honoured user and umbrella seller with umbrella seller and thermos with thermos and ceiling with ceiling and loaf of bread with loaf of bread and compassion with compassion

and i think the argonian looks fine, if a bit scary.
DoomedOne
I wonder if they've replaced saleswoman with anything yet...

Anway, I think the khajiit looks great, I only wish someone had brought back a VIDEo of khajiit generation. I saw the high elves which look rather strange, but they are random faces after all. You want to make one look good I guess you need to gon there and ide yourself.

EDIT: Oh, they're really on top of the censorship. Let me see here, thermos umbrella seller saleswoman hamster lover compassion boatmaster ceiling meekrob
MerGirl
My sister and I looked at this picture several times, and we think it doesn't look too bad. Just needs horns and finned-ears (like in Morrowind) and maybe slightly bigger eyes, then he would look better. cool.gif

Oh, I heard that the Argonian's eyes were closed in that screenshot (he blinked or something), so I'm curious as to what his eyes look like when they're open. smile.gif

EDIT: Speaking of beast races, has there been a (legal) clear, high-res screeshot of a Khajiit yet?
Intestinal Chaos
Hmmm... meekrob? That's a thai food dish and a planet from Invader Zim.
Aki
Its the angle that makes his muzzle look so short. Very bad angle to show off muzzle length. Almost as bad as straight-on.

He could use some head decoration, as Mergirl said. Like horns. tongue.gif

His arms and skin tone make me think "TRANDOSHAN!" for some reason.

Waaaay too much star wars on me brain.... laugh.gif
Red
I think they look great, though I guess I liked the faces from Morrowind the most.

Also, lemme see, hamster, compassion, boat, panda bear, loaf of bread, mother hamster lover, honoured user, boat hole, umbrella seller, saleswoman, dreamy school girl. Wow, I think that's the first time I actually swore here. Also, the opposite of loaf of bread isn't censored.
King Death
QUOTE(Red @ Oct 12 2005, 07:35 PM)
I think they look great, though I guess I liked the faces from Morrowind the most.

Also, lemme see, hamster, compassion, boat, panda bear, loaf of bread, mother hamster lover, honoured user, boat hole, umbrella seller, saleswoman, dreamy school girl. Wow, I think that's the first time I actually swore here. Also, the opposite of loaf of bread isn't censored.
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In a way you still haven't swore.

Anyways, I agree with Aki, I thought it looked like a trandoshan.

boat, compassion, hamster, honoured user, umbrella seller.
Rane
You know, there's the preview post function that lets you see your post before it's actually posted on the board. It's an ideal way to research the auto-censor system if you feel like you have to. So enough with these pointless tests, ok?
MerGirl
QUOTE(Aki @ Oct 12 2005, 07:13 PM)
Its the angle that makes his muzzle look so short. Very bad angle to show off muzzle length. Almost as bad as straight-on.

He could use some head decoration, as Mergirl said. Like horns.  tongue.gif

His arms and skin tone make me think "TRANDOSHAN!" for some reason.

Waaaay too much star wars on me brain....  laugh.gif
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Er, I have no clue what Trandoshan looks like, so I can't really say if it looks like one or not.

About the muzzle, I wonder if we will have the option (in character creation) to adjust how long the snout can be? mellow.gif Like, with a slider or something.

If there are going to be horns, perhaps they would be under the 'hair options' in character creation section of the game. (At least, I'm hoping for horns to be available in the first place).
Aki
QUOTE(MerGirl @ Oct 13 2005, 03:16 PM)
Er, I have no clue what Trandoshan looks like, so I can't really say if it looks like one or not.

About the muzzle, I wonder if we will have the option (in character creation) to adjust how long the snout can be?  mellow.gif Like, with a slider or something.

If there are going to be horns, perhaps they would be under the 'hair options' in character creation section of the game. (At least, I'm hoping for horns to be available in the first place).
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First; Trandoshan

As for the muzzle, I bet you can. It'd be like...not giving a nose/mouth adjuster for human races....



MerGirl
Well, according to one person who got invited to that New York X-Box 360 event, there is a way to modify the length of the snout/muzzle, and there is a 'fin slider', which is good news to me. smile.gif
Ambberfox
sound interesting smile.gif. what's the address to that person's site?
MerGirl
Took me awhile, but I found the guy/girl who had played Oblivion for two hours, who mentioned the whole 'fin slider' thing. Her/his threads can be found here. smile.gif
Raziel
Female Argonian
Megil Tel-Zeke
that looks really bad IMO:(
Infiltrator
Yep. As if her face textures got so streched they lost the detail.
fl0yd13
looks alright to me, but i did like the old onces better.
DoomedOne
They're using face software meant for humans, not lizard people. They did the best they could.
ShogunSniper
QUOTE(Raziel @ Oct 15 2005, 08:31 PM)

*runs away*
Megil Tel-Zeke
QUOTE(DoomedOne @ Oct 15 2005, 11:38 PM)
They're using face software meant for humans, not lizard people.  They did the best they could.
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Yah but since they created the software, they should have accomodated it for argonians and khajit to. I can understand them wanting to keep models and scale and what not the same, but using the same program for the humans and lizards, and khajit is just being plain lazy. that is a really crappy looking argonian O.o
DoomedOne
What I'm saying is that they're using third-party softward for the faces, just like they're using speed-tree and havoc, They had to revamp the software for argonians and khajiit but it was still based on the original software for humans. That argonian is progress.
MerGirl
QUOTE(Megil Tel-Zeke @ Oct 16 2005, 12:27 AM)
Yah but since they created the software, they should have accomodated it for argonians and khajit to.  I can understand them wanting to keep models and scale and what not the same, but using the same program for the humans and lizards, and khajit is just being plain lazy.  that is a really crappy looking argonian O.o
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Um, Beth didn't create the FaceGen software, I don't think. They were using it, but they didn't create it. I think they had to alter the FaceGen to, er, support the Beast Races--which FaceGen originally didn't have. (FaceGen was human/elf only) kvleft.gif

FaceGen is just another different software/product, and was around before Beth used it in this game. (Kind of like Poser/Daz 3D/Bryce/Etc, which I think Oblivion should have used [(Some examples of my fav Poser bodies and faces)Poser faces, bodies/Daz 3D] instead).

From the faces of the Beast Races I've seen, I think Beth is doing a decent job. It could have been worse--it could have been cartoony-stretched human faces colored red/green. kvright.gif
DoomedOne
Exactly, Mergirl, exactly what I was saying. You may have misread my post though since it seems like you were contradicting me.
Raziel
QUOTE(MerGirl @ Oct 12 2005, 02:32 AM)
My sister and I looked at this picture several times, and we think it doesn't look too bad. Just needs horns and finned-ears (like in Morrowind) and maybe slightly bigger eyes, then he would look better.  cool.gif

Oh, I heard that the Argonian's eyes were closed in that screenshot (he blinked or something), so I'm curious as to what his eyes look like when they're open.  smile.gif

EDIT: Speaking of beast races, has there been a (legal) clear, high-res screeshot of a Khajiit yet?
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The Khajiit
larry the lepricon
sweet saint patrick patrent saint of ireland!!!!!! hhajiits look weird
Megil Tel-Zeke
QUOTE(Rane @ Oct 16 2005, 01:18 PM)
News that just got in.

http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/index.p...howtopic=175036
QUOTE(kathode)
In the past couple days, an unfinished build of Oblivion was leaked to a Russian gaming site. You may have seen screenshots and information about this build online. The site in question was not authorized in any way to post the information that it did. The build in question was not in any way intended to be used for the purposes of demoing the game.

The screenshots that got posted clearly show that the game was not properly configured by whoever was playing. The ini file alone contains over 300 settings that can be used to customize the visuals and performance of the game, and we tweak and test and change these settings daily. Because the build they are using was not one that we locked away for the specific purposes of demonstration, the likelyhood that any number of those options are incorrectly configured is very high. This can result in any manner of aberrant behavior from the game including improper visuals and reduced performance.

The upshot is that we feel the quality of the screenshots released is very far from the final game. This combined with the fact that the they are completely unauthorized by anyone representing Bethesda to publish screenshots or info means that we have to shut down threads relating to this leak.

Hopefully soon, as we get closer to release, you will see legit sites posting previews based on actual preview builds of the final game.


In other words, *click*
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This is good news since it means that more than likely the settings were messed up so the beast races are not at their most polished state. Though i don't play beast races this is much of a relive because now we do not have to look at stretched textures, that looks like paint splattered onto a canvas.
DoomedOne
Khajiits look great. I love them.
Aki
QUOTE(DoomedOne @ Oct 18 2005, 06:12 PM)
Khajiits look great.  I love them.
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Me too.

I wanna pet one.


But, they'd scratch me, or hit me with weapons and spells.... tongue.gif
minque
Noo...they´re sweet..they´ll just purr at you and talk to you in the funny khajiiti way..
Soulseeker3.0
If it were the opposite sex.... otherwise it probably would scratch your eyes out.
Kiln
I thought the argonian looked fine, better than in the previous game in my opinion, I really didn't like the way they looked in Morrowind.
Infiltrator
The base model looked awsome in Morrowind imo. The animation, on the other hand, was horrid.
consulter
argonians look like crap compared to morrowind, now they just look like trandoshans from starwars...how lame
Darkwing
Forgive me for sounding pompous - but why on earth did Beth decide to use a facegen application that only catered to a percentage of the races. Surely they must have realised the beast races would yet again be disgraced!

woldy25
QUOTE(chips @ Oct 10 2005, 01:38 PM)
screenshotsthe new argonians look really weird their faces are so....... dogish. what do u think. i tried to get link but dont know how to kvright.gif
edit: ohh wait i did just go to updated xbox screens and look at the argonians.
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lol flamed
Intestinal Chaos
QUOTE(Darkwing @ Jan 27 2006, 06:26 AM)
Forgive me for sounding pompous - but why on earth did Beth decide to use a facegen application that only catered to a percentage of the races. Surely they must have realised the beast races would yet again be disgraced!
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Tamriel needs a *NAABP

*National Association for the Advancement of Beast Peoples
Curly_G_
QUOTE(DoomedOne @ Oct 12 2005, 01:20 AM)

Anway, I think the khajiit looks great

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Indeed. On the concept art they have dreadlocks. ohmy.gif biggrin.gif
They will look cooler diving out of the shadows now.
I think people have a problem because all beasts now stand upright and all the screenshots of Argonians are crestless, but I read somewhere the crests are definately still around, so I think it'll all be fine. tongue.gif

Thoughts: loaf of bread!
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