For those familiar with the 9/11 incidents with the Pentagon, watch [link deleted]

After watching, what do you guys think? A bomb, missile, fighter jet?

Crazy stuff.

My mind is still blown, so I have yet to form an opinion.

hmm interesting video Danny.....surely there is something that doesn´t fit with the official statement...

I´d say it´s a missile....

I haven't seen it yet, and before I do, I want you guys to know my opinion.

I thought somebody planted a bomb in there because they cleared the sight before anyone could take any pictures and based of second hand information that there's apparently loots of other evidence they did. It's a weak stance but with all the other evidence that I can't key in on about the WTC stuff that doesn't add up, it's ahrd to ignore there was some foul play.

Now to watch the video.

Okay, opinion officially reinforced. I never trust the government though, so it's nothing new to me.

wow, that is weird I can't make up mind on it.. that is just to strange and what is starnger is that it all works out.....

See, I'm a guy of evidence. I trust evidence more than I trust what "experts" say. I trust evidence before I trust what is publicly accepted. Even if there is only a slight bit of evidence pointing against what is accepted as true, I will not believe that it is true.

What is the point that everyones trying to get at? (Really curious)

Personally I never thought a plane crashed into the pentagon

Well, since you said you were a junior in high school, you would have been in seventh grade.

Maybe normal 7th graders don't pay as much attention to the news as I did.

According to the media/government: a plane was driven into the Pentagon before a plane was driven into the WTC.

This video basically blows that statement to shreds. I do remember asking my mom where the plane was on TV - she said they had probably cleared it out. I didn't really think of the time frame.

Well I just excepted the fact more so that a plane actually did ram into the WTC's.. I saw it..

Oh yea, I wasn't watching the news when it happened =P I was playing red alert 2, attack (anbd blowing up) those 2 big towers in the one mission. Hehe, I thought that was oddly strange.

Maybe some renegade in the air force or whatever went crazy?

Oh, so what happened to the people on that flight anyways? There was a plane orginally, now whered it go?

Exactly. Have you ever heard anything about them? Are they alive, dead, or was there even a plane that hit the pentagon?

But even if a plane didn't hit the pentagon, THERE WAS still a plane with some dude flying it.

Seems like the work of a balistic missle to me. However it is hard to say that, because most missle do not penetrate like that. They explode seconds after impact or right on.

Have you ever been to the pentagon? I have, and those walls of reinforced steel and concrete are like 5+ feet thick. There were like 5 of those walls untill the last hole. Therefor having such an explosion in the side of the pentagon is horrible unlikely because of the fact that SOMEHTING penetrated so far. 2 missles maybe?

A plane can easily be confiscated by the government, and a pilot can be easily convinced to keep his mouth shut.

However there were also people in the plane.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ppfinal.html

A lil something I found

this is why I love politics. You never know who to believe.

And about that throwing a christmas ornament at a brick wall; they missed one huge difference. A christmas ornament wont be going through six brick walls, an airplane (or whatever) obviously will. And why would it go into tiny pieces if it can get through layers of concrete?

Lord knows...

But I still find it odd that a plane would be able to smash through all those walls..

A lot of people think there were bombs previously planted. If there's evidence that bombs were already planted in WTC then Bombs could have akready been planted in the Pentagon. An aluminum plane would have about as good a chance at breaching 4 pentagon walls as a missile.

oh my god, is this flash movie still around?

peolpe come on, dont tell me, you are believing some flash movie? that is ridiculous. i mean, theres absolutely no proof to the statements made in that flash.

next time you are going to tell me, nasa has never landed astronauts on the moon.

one thing you should know: most of the powerpoints and flash movies sent around, which try to make a big conspiracy theory of the 9/11 come from the extreme right wing.



this thread should be closed immediatly.

I don't think so.

I don't know why you'd say that this sort of vid would be something coming from the extreme right, as surely, neither the british nor the american extreme right have any interest in such a thing. I've also taken the time to look at other videos on that site, like that "Fight the Power" video. Doesn't look like extreme right wing to me.

Besides, it is up to each of us to take stuff like this -on the web no less- with a grain of salt. Of course this is all speculation, and probably some make-belief to reinforce the point. But on the other hand, who really knows what truely happened there?

So, what reasons are there to lock it? It doesn'Tviolate any of the rules, and it is within the domain of free speech. Nope, not gonna lock this.

most of those 9/11 conspiracy theories end in some kind of "jew world conspiracy", and so does this one. the site where it is posted now is not the site where this flash originally came from. it doesnt directly contain right wing propaganda, but it clears the path for this kind of information. thats why this theory is so popular nowadays - it has spread all over the net. actually, i dont know a person with internet who has not seen this flick.

the guy who paid the making of this flash is a french author who wrote the first book about the 9/11 "conspiracys", which is still no.1 book sold in arabian states. it is filled with false, faked and made up information - theres absolutely no proof of this. he is a french "politician" from the extreme right wing and is known for making speeches at right wing / nationalistic /racist / antisemitic "meetings".

ARTE took the time to trace back the sources of that specific conspiracy theories, and nearly ALL were originating from extreme right wing / antisemitic people from france - with countless followers all over the world. look around the site and see if you find that article corresponding to the docu - im not going to do the research for you. however, i have some similar links in german about that topic on ARTE.TV for your reading pleasure:

about internet and the spreading of conspiracy theories

another interesting interview

so wheres the thin line between spreading rumors/free speech and breaking the law? is it ok to say that the americans deserved the WTC attack? is it still free speech if someone says that child porn is ok? or would this break the law? think about it. i also would really like to see those of you step up to the families who have lost people in those planes, and explain them that there was no plane attack. you can look up some adresses at any of those 9/11 donation sites if you want to.

considering the fact, that all posters here tend to believe that actually no plane hit the pentagon, but it was more a CIA/FBI/whatever-organization action, id reconsider the policys regarding the spreading of such "information".

im no supporter for the bush administration - but this is too many steps WAY too far.

thats all from me on this topic, ive seen many forums going into heated battle only of topics such as this and actually i dont care if you leave this thread open or not, it was more of a recommendation - in the end, its your forums niveau.

Ok, my bad. I should have taken a closer look at that site.

A link to a site where holocaust revisionists are defended is not what I want on this board.